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    “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness.”

    how islam interprets god's image?
    does it believe god in likeness to human
    attributes?
    in hinduism there is a view pertaining
    to god's image being "nirguna" which according to
    Upanishads refer to the Supreme as "nirguna," it is
    indicated that this means He has no material qualities.

    #2
    No Islam is absolutely against it! In Islam's view God is too supreme entity and Human beings are one of the millionm creations though the most intellegent one. In our faith God had time and again sent the messengers to guide humanity but after some time they started associating God with other objects natural or alive.. Therefore we dont accept Christ as son of God but a true messenger of God like Prophet Muhhamad.
    You can clearly see that Prophet Muhammad strictly forbid to have his image made since muslims can in coming times start associating hin with Godly attributes as was the case in previous religions..
    Saints are fine for Heaven, but they are hell on earth.

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      #3
      degas,

      In whose image was ADAM created?

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        #4
        Originally posted by hafeez123:
        degas,

        In whose image was ADAM created?
        human being!.. or hunuman if u believe in Darwin..
        It was a clear message by Holy Prophet not to make any image of him.. otherwise soem of us may had made him son of God as Christians do..
        "Behold thy Lord said to the angels: I will create a vicegerent on earth." Quran

        Saints are fine for Heaven, but they are hell on earth.

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          #5

          Read:

          095.001 By the Fig and the Olive,

          095.002 And the Mount of Sinai,

          095.003 And this City of security,-

          095.004 We have indeed created man in the best of moulds,

          095.005 Then do We abase him (to be) the lowest of the low,-

          095.006 Except such as believe and do righteous deeds: For they shall have a reward unfailing.

          095.007 Then what can, after this, contradict thee, as to the judgment (to come)?

          095.008 Is not Allah the wisest of judges?


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            #6

            The following ayat should give RVIKZ his/her answer:

            With the Name of Allah, the Merciful Benefactor, The Merciful Redeemer

            112.001 Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;

            112.002 Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;

            112.003 He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

            112.004 And there is none like unto Him.

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              #7
              so how islam percieves god? shapless formless
              enitity? the why you need mosque to house
              god if there is no images?

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                #8
                Originally posted by rvikz:
                so how islam percieves god? shapless formless
                enitity? the why you need mosque to house
                god if there is no images?
                .. we dont perceive any form or shape of God as shape and form changed.. even fire looses energy after some time.. its beyond human comprehension to image that. We believe God is one and is beyond time and space..this Universe along with many other and millions of creatures are created by God.
                Regarding Mosque muslims never thing they contain God in a mosque as God is not an entity to contain. Muslims dont need a mosque to pray..they can pray anywhere.. and in open space.. there is nothing in a mosque .. we need mosque as a space just to protect from sunlight and rain.. and traditionally has become a social gathring point as we are recommended to pray together .. and there is no institution of a priest in Islam.. but to regularize the place to mosque there has emerged a class of priests . But we are alltold to pursue knowledge of religion. So ur invited to go to any mosque and check..
                Saints are fine for Heaven, but they are hell on earth.

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                  #9
                  In Sahih Muslim, Book 040, Number 6809 we read that ALLAH is 60 cubits tall and so Adam was also 60 cubits (30 meters) tall

                  Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created Adam in His own image with His length of sixty cubits,....."

                  Here is the complete sahih of Bukhari:

                  Sahih Bukhari: Volume 8, Book 74, Number 246:

                  Narrated Abu Huraira:

                  The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam in his complete shape and form (directly), sixty cubits (about 30 meters) in height.

                  When He created him, He said (to him), "Go and greet that group of angels sitting there, and listen what they will say in reply to you, for that will be your greeting and the greeting of your offspring." Adam (went and) said, 'As-Salamu alaikum (Peace be upon you).' They replied, 'AsSalamu-'Alaika wa Rahmatullah (Peace and Allah's Mercy be on you) So they increased 'Wa Rahmatullah'

                  The Prophet added 'So whoever will enter Paradise, will be of the shape and form of Adam. Since then the creation of Adam's (offspring) (i.e. stature of human beings is being diminished continuously) to the present time."


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                    #10
                    salaam to all,

                    these SAHIH hadiths quoted above by hafeez123 again show that they contradict the quranic teachings!!

                    GOD making ADAM (as) in His own image...........is this ISLAM or Christianity???

                    [This message has been edited by filhaal (edited August 05, 2002).]

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                      #11
                      No Limitations for God

                      We do not believe that God the Almighty has any limitations, nor can He ever be limited to any specific dimensions. What we know about God is that just as He is there on the heavens so He is there on the earth as well. As for human relations with Him they are of two types. One, His general relationship with the common man and His special relationship with His special servants who purify themselves and advance in His love. He gets so near to them that it seems as if He speaks through them. It is very peculiar about Him that despite the fact that He is very far, He is very close and despite the fact that He is very close, He is far. He is very near yet it cannot be said that He is near as two physical bodies can come near each other. He is above everything and yet it can not be said that there is something below Him (i.e. something like Him, just next to Him). He is very much manifest but at the same time He is very much hidden. The more a man acquires true purification the more he begins to understand God.

                      (Malfoozat vol. 10, pg. 426)

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                        #12
                        following are some quotations

                        (Quotations from The Upanishads)

                        The supreme Self is neither born nor dies. He cannot be burned, moved, pierced, cut, nor dried. Beyond all attributes, the supreme Self is the eternal witness, ever pure, indivisible, and uncompounded, far beyond the senses and the ego... He is omnipresent, beyond all thought, without action in the external world, without action in the internal world. Detached from the outer and the inner, This supreme Self purifies the impure.
                        (Atma Up. 3, p. 242)

                        Though all the galaxies emerge from him, He is without form and unconditioned.
                        (Tejabindu Up. 6, p. 239


                        Quotations from Ahmad Ibn `Ata'Allah)
                        Your Saying "God is Most Great" does not mean that He is greater than something else, since there is nothing else alongside of Him, so that it could be said that He is greater than it... Rather, the meaning of Allahu Akbar is that He is much too great to be perceived by the senses or for the depths of His Majesty to be reached by reason and logic, and indeed, that He is much too great to be known by an other-than-Him for truly, no one knows God but God.
                        (p. 119)

                        ... the gnosis of God is intermediate between immoderation, which is ascribing human characteristics to God, and negligence, which is denying any attributes to God... The Truth lies in the balance between the two extremes.
                        (p. 162)

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by rvikz:
                          following are some quotations

                          (Quotations from The Upanishads)

                          The supreme Self is neither born nor dies. He cannot be burned, moved, pierced, cut, nor dried. Beyond all attributes, the supreme Self is the eternal witness, ever pure, indivisible, and uncompounded, far beyond the senses and the ego... He is omnipresent, beyond all thought, without action in the external world, without action in the internal world. Detached from the outer and the inner, This supreme Self purifies the impure.
                          (Atma Up. 3, p. 242)

                          Though all the galaxies emerge from him, He is without form and unconditioned.
                          (Tejabindu Up. 6, p. 239
                          Why then is there the concept of Bramha, Vishnu and Shiva?

                          "A woman has got to be able to say, and not feel guilty, 'Who am I, and what do I want out of life?' She mustn't feel selfish and neurotic if she wants goals of her own, outside of husband and children"

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by sholay:

                            With the Name of Allah, the Merciful Benefactor, The Merciful Redeemer

                            112.001 Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;

                            112.002 Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;

                            112.003 He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

                            112.004 And there is none like unto Him.

                            Even the Bible has similar verses about the oneness of God and that there is none like Him:

                            Isaiah 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me

                            Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord


                            But unfortunately, the revelation to Jesus (AS) was corrupted and Christians made Jesus (AS) the Son of God. If he was the son of God (i.e. inheritor of Godly qualities), or in any way a part of God, or had a share in the power of God then how do they explain this in the Bible:

                            Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

                            Surely, if Jesus (AS) had some godly attributes or powers, he would have reserved some praise for himself in the above case.

                            The revelation to Jesus (AS) was corrupted just like the previous scriptures were corrupted by the Bani Israel:

                            "How can you say, 'We [The Jews] are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

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                            There's a Power that sees your intentions and helps you. (Imran Khan)

                            [This message has been edited by sallu123 (edited August 06, 2002).]
                            "When one bright intellect meets another bright intellect, the light increases and the Way becomes clear." - Rumi

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by aishaA:
                              Why then is there the concept of Bramha, Vishnu and Shiva?

                              there is a ultimate truth whatever we human name it or try to describe it or try to explain different manifestations.

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