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    Question concerning Islams view on life after death...

    1. I have heard that after we die, according to Muslima, we wilremain in our graves till the day of resurection. I have also heard that we go to straight to heaven or hell when we die. So where do we go? Do we go to heaven straight or do we wait in the grave (waiting till judgement dayin my grave doesn't sound very appealing).

    2. If we reamin in our graves till judgement day, does that mean that no one will be punished for their crimes in life while they ait, and those that did good will not be rewarded while they wait? Does judgement ONLY take place on judgement day?

    3. If we go straight to heaven (or hell). Does this mean that people have been judged to be guilty of being sinners or rewarded for being good even before the Judgement day arrives? If so, then whats the point of Judgement day? And if not, what is the point of judging them prior to judgement.. Its like throwing somone in prison or releasing them even before a trial...

    4. If we are wait for judgement day in the grave, then will god provide something to keep us from losing our minds or will we have something for us to occupy the long wait????

    5. Christians seem to believe that when we die, we will turn into Angels with wings... What is the Islamic concept of life after death.

    6. I have read that in Islam, there are thought to be 7 levels of heaven? If this is true, then what do the 7 heavens represent?
    Does this idea of levels also aply to hell?

    I know this is long, ut these questions have been on my mind for a while now sooo...

    #2
    Originally posted by Adnan Ahmed:
    1. I have heard that after we die, according to Muslima, we wilremain in our graves till the day of resurection. I have also heard that we go to straight to heaven or hell when we die. So where do we go? Do we go to heaven straight or do we wait in the grave (waiting till judgement dayin my grave doesn't sound very appealing).

    sorry u got that fact wrong...after death yes the body remains in the grave but the soul goes to a transition state 'barzakh', and i guess u muslt have heard that those who commit suicide their souls hang b/w sky and earth, so we can conclude that a person doesnot remain in the grave till the judgement day.

    2. If we reamin in our graves till judgement day, does that mean that no one will be punished for their crimes in life while they ait, and those that did good will not be rewarded while they wait? Does judgement ONLY take place on judgement day?

    We muslims have the belief that the punishment for our sins comes in three phases

    1. we can be punished on earth during our life time.
    2. in grave...as u know munkar-nakeer come there to question us
    3. after the judgement day..i.e. we go to hell or heaven for our deeds

    3. If we go straight to heaven (or hell). Does this mean that people have been judged to be guilty of being sinners or rewarded for being good even before the Judgement day arrives? If so, then whats the point of Judgement day? And if not, what is the point of judging them prior to judgement.. Its like throwing somone in prison or releasing them even before a trial...

    sorry but Allah know His ways better than us...ofcourse we don't go to heaven or hell straight after our death...but we are told that shaeed do.

    4. If we are wait for judgement day in the grave, then will god provide something to keep us from losing our minds or will we have something for us to occupy the long wait????

    refer to answer no. 1 ...

    5. Christians seem to believe that when we die, we will turn into Angels with wings... What is the Islamic concept of life after death.

    Allah has kept us in dark abt most of the things...well u can only become an angel if u were chaste in world...Islam tells us that everyboody will have to pay for his/her deed...whereas christianity says jesus died for them...and they r not going to go to hell

    6. I have read that in Islam, there are thought to be 7 levels of heaven? If this is true, then what do the 7 heavens represent?
    Does this idea of levels also aply to hell?

    refer to harun yahya's book on this one...he has explained it beautifully

    I know this is long, ut these questions have been on my mind for a while now sooo...

    I hope i have told u little that i know...but one thing we have to keep in mind is that Allah has not told us abt everything...he has put a veil infront of ur eyes from many of his creation like jinns...and same is the case here...he has told us a little abt day of judgement but not all.

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      #3
      Thanks yaar.. But I still have questions...
      For example, why does go judge us in any way at all, even if it means sending a munkar-nakeer to ask questions.. What is the point of having a judgement day if we are already being judged before hand.
      Second... If our soul does leave the body, and it goes of to someplace, where is this someplace? Is it like a Muslim version of pergatory? Also, do we have share our time with people who are truly evil, say for example, Hitler.. Do we expect Hitler and some who genuinly a good person sAY Gandhi, would they all exist in the same place despite their very different spiritual states?
      I agree god has not revealed everything, but Im sure he would mind us making educated guesses, right?
      I know this seems philosophical, but I am a philisophical kind of person...

      [This message has been edited by Adnan Ahmed (edited June 13, 2002).]

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        #4
        Well ok i'll make a few educated guesses here

        1. u must have seen that in this world we have a lower court...and high courts..etc...i guess the case of being answerable to the qs of Munkar nakeer and Allah is same...may be Munkar nakeer are there to Ask ppl qs and then divide them into sections...who knows?

        2. as i said soul goes to barzakh...Well i dunno abt hitler and all..but u know what i believe the barzak is another world...A world we'll go to after our death and befor heaven and hell....now on this matter i have sum debatable views which i am not sure i should voice here...but Barzakh is there and souls are going to go there.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Adnan Ahmed:
          Thanks yaar.. But I still have questions...
          For example, why does go judge us in any way at all, even if it means sending a munkar-nakeer to ask questions.. What is the point of having a judgement day if we are already being judged before hand.
          Second... If our soul does leave the body, and it goes of to someplace, where is this someplace? Is it like a Muslim version of pergatory? Also, do we have share our time with people who are truly evil, say for example, Hitler.. Do we expect Hitler and some who genuinly a good person sAY Gandhi, would they all exist in the same place despite their very different spiritual states?
          I agree god has not revealed everything, but Im sure he would mind us making educated guesses, right?
          I know this seems philosophical, but I am a philisophical kind of person...

          [This message has been edited by Adnan Ahmed (edited June 13, 2002).]
          Allah swt will not throw you inside the hell before you have a chance to defend yourself.

          Soul will return to the place of it source (origin).

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            #6
            Originally posted by google:
            Allah swt will not throw you inside the hell before you have a chance to defend yourself.

            Soul will return to the place of it source (origin).
            Why would god give us the gift of rational thought and logic if he didn;t want us to use it?

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              #7
              Originally posted by enchanted:
              Well ok i'll make a few educated guesses here

              1. u must have seen that in this world we have a lower court...and high courts..etc...i guess the case of being answerable to the qs of Munkar nakeer and Allah is same...may be Munkar nakeer are there to Ask ppl qs and then divide them into sections...who knows?

              2. as i said soul goes to barzakh...Well i dunno abt hitler and all..but u know what i believe the barzak is another world...A world we'll go to after our death and befor heaven and hell....now on this matter i have sum debatable views which i am not sure i should voice here...but Barzakh is there and souls are going to go there.

              Your first answer was really good, really makes sense.
              As for the second, I have never heard of this barzak place before. Is that like pergatory? I dont mind your oppinion on this so feel free to hit me with whateveryou got. What is this place, what is it like? Would this barzakh be like this world? Do you think our relatives would be there? Does good and evil reside there the same way it does on earth?



              [This message has been edited by Adnan Ahmed (edited June 14, 2002).]

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                #8
                Originally posted by Adnan Ahmed:
                Why would god give us the gift of rational thought and logic if he didn;t want us to use it?
                ?

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                  #9
                  well the topic of barzakh and its real understanding is not clear...yeah it is like pergatory.. well i found sum links abt it go there it'll help u in understanding it:
                  http://members.ozemail.com.au/~azma/barzakh.htm
                  http://www.fabonline.com/Articles/IS...gatoryLife.htm
                  http://www.islamoriginal.co.uk/Barzakh.htm

                  i hope it helps

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                    #10
                    Thanks Yaar

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                      #11
                      What is the State of Man after Death?

                      The state of man after death is not a new state, only his condition in this life is made manifest more clearly in the next life. Whatever is the true condition of a person with respect to his beliefs and actions, righteous or otherwise, in this life, it remains hidden inside him and its poison or its antidote affects his being covertly. In the life after death it will not be so; everything will manifest itself openly. One experiences a specimen of it in a dream. The prevailing condition of the body of the sleeper makes itself manifest in his dream. When he is heading towards high fever he is apt to see fire and flames in his dream and if he is sickening for influenza or a Severe cold he is apt to find himself floating about in water. Thus whatever the body is heading for becomes visible in a dream. So one can understand that the same is the way of God with regard to the afterlife.

                      As a dream transmutes our spiritual condition into a physical form, the same will happen in the next life. Our actions and their consequences will be manifested physically in the next life, and whatever we carry hidden within us from this life will all be displayed openly on our countenances in the next life. As a person observes diverse types of manifestations in his dreams but is not conscious that they are only manifestations, and deems them as realities, the same will happen in the next life. Through those manifestations God Will display a new power which is perfect. If we were not to call the conditions of the next life manifestations and were to say that they would be a new creation by Divine power, that would be perfectly correct.

                      God has said: No virtuous one knows what bliss is kept hidden from him, as a reward for that which he used to do (32:18). Thus God has described all those bounties as hidden, the like of which is not to be found in this world. It is obvious that the bounties of this world are not hidden from us and we are familiar with milk, pomegranates and grapes etc. Which we eat here. This shows that the bounties of the next life are something else and have nothing in common with the bounties of this life, except the name. He who conceives of the conditions of paradise in the terms of the conditions of this life has not the least understanding of the Holy Quran.

                      In interpreting the verse that we have just Cited our lord and master, the Holy Prophet peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, has said that heaven and its bounties are such as no eye has seen, nor has any ear heard, nor have they been conceived by the mind of man; whereas we see the bounties of this world and hear of them and their thought also passes through our minds. Now when God and His Messenger describe them as something Strange, we would depart altogether from the Holy Quran if we were to imagine that in heaven we shall be given the same milk which is obtained in this life from cows and buffaloes, as if herds of milch cattle would be kept in heaven and there will be numerous beehives in the trees of heaven from which angels will procure honey and pour it into streams. Have these Concepts any relationship with the teaching that says that those bounties Have never been witnessed in this world, and that they illumine the souls and foster our understanding of God and provide spiritual nourishment ? They are described in physical terms but we are told that their source is the soul and its righteousness.

                      Let no one imagine that the verse of the Holy Quran Cited below indicates that the dwellers of paradise on observing these bounties will recognise them that they had been bestowed these bounties aforetime also. As Allah, the Glorious has said: Give glad tidings to those who believe and work perfect righteousness that they will inherit Gardens beneath which rivers flow. Whenever they are provided with fruits therefrom, which they will have already tasted in the life of the world they will exclaim: This is what we were given before, because they will find that those fruits resemble the fruits which they have already tasted (2:26). It is not to be supposed from the wording of this verse that on beholding the bounties of paradise the dwellers of paradise will discover that they are the same bounties which had been bestowed upon them he their previous life.

                      This would be a great mistake and would be contrary to the true meaning of the verse. What God Almighty has said here is that those who believe and work righteousness build a paradise with their own hands the trees of which are their faith and the streams of which are that- righteous actions. In the hereafter also they will eat of the fruits of this paradise, only those fruits will be sweeter and more manifest. As they will have eaten those fruits spiritually in this world they will recognise them in the other world and will exclaim: These appear to be the same fruits that we have already eaten; and they will thud that those fruits resemble the fruits that they had cater before he this world. This verse clearly proclaims that those people who were nurtured in this life on the love of God will be given the same nurture in physical shape in the hereafter. As they will have tasted the delight of love already in this life and would be aware of it, their souls would recall the time when they used to remember their True Beloved in corners, in solitude and in the darkness of night and used to experience its delight.

                      In short. There is no mention he this verse of material food. If it should strike anyone that as the righteous would have been given this spiritual nourishment in their life in this world it could not be said that it was a bounty that no one had seen or heard of in the world nor had it been conceived by the mind of male the answer should be that there is here no contradiction. As this verse does not mean that the dwellers of paradise would be bestowed the bounties of this world. Whatever they arc bestowed by way of comprehension of the Divine are the bounties of the hereafter a specimen of which is given to them he advance to stimulate their eagerness.

                      It should be remembered that a godly person does not belong to the Worldly that is why the world hates him. He belongs to heaven and is bestowed heavenly bounties. A man of the world is given worldly bounties, and a man of heaven is bestowed heavenly bounties. Thus it is true that those bounties are hidden from the ears and hearts and eyes of the worldly; but he whose worldly life suffers death and who is given a drink of the spiritual cup which he will drink in a physical form in the hereafter, will then recall having partaken of it in his previous life. It is true however, that he will consider the eyes and ears of the world as unaware of it. As he was in the world though he was not of the world, he will also testify that the bounties of heaven are not of the world and that he did not see such a bounty in the world nor did his ear hear of it, nor did his mind conceive it. He saw a specimen of those bounties of the hereafter which were not of this world. They were a presage of the world to come to which he was related and had no connection with the life of this world.

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