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    It is narrated by Abu Dawud that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said, "He is not one of us who calls for 'asabiyyah, (i.e nationalism, tribalism , racism etc) or who fights for 'asabiyyah or who dies for 'asabiyyah."

    And in another hadith, the Messenger of Allah (saw) referring to nationalism, racism, and patriotism said "Leave it, it is rotten". [Muslim and Bukhari]

    There are many examples in the Seerah where the Messenger of Allah (saw) had rebuked those who upheld nationalism. On one occasion a party of Jews conspired to bring about disunity in the ranks of the Muslims after seeing the Aus and Khazraj within Islam. A youth from amongst them was sent to incite remembrance of the battle of Bu'ath where the Aus had been victorious over the Khazraj, and he recited poetry to bring about division between them. As a result there was a call to arms. When the news reached the Messenger of Allah (saw), He (saw) said, "O Muslims, remember Allah, remember Allah. Will you act as pagans while I am present with you after Allah has guided you to Islam, and honoured you thereby and made a clean break with paganism; delivered you thereby from disbelief; made you friends thereby?" When they heard this they wept, and embraced each other. This incident clearly highlights how the messenger of Allah (saw) rebuked any forms of tribalism and nationalism. Allah (swt) then revealed the verses,

    "O you who believe! Fear Allah as He should be feared and die not except in a state of Islam. And hold fast together all of you to the rope of Allah, and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude Allah's favours on you; for you were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace you became brothers; and you were on the brink of the pit of fire, and He saved you from it. Thus Allah makes His signs clear to you that you may be guided." [3: 102-103]



    #2
    Jazakallah khair!

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      #3
      Jazak'Allah Khairun brother

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      [Saheeh Muslim]

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        #4
        Thank you, great post, Eemo much needed.

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          #5
          Jazak Allah Khair bro

          On a personal note, I think you should have also included "Nationalism" in brackets in your title (since many people will not show much interest if they just see "asabiyyah")

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            #6
            ok bro, fair point.

            But i thought tht people would be more intrigued not knowing what asabiyyah is.

            guess it works both ways.

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              #7
              an excellentpost..jazakallah khair...it is also a perfect food for thought for muslims on both sides of the border.

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                #8
                eemo, youve quoted a HADITH which prohibits Nationalism. Ok supposing Pakistan is attacked by India, should we muslims in Pakistan defend our lands from the Indian enemy or do we just let them take over thinking that there is a Hadith which says there should be no Nationalism ? In that case let the Indians kill our people, destroy our culture, our religion, our languages etc. Good example would be Bosnia which was carved out of Yugoslavia, thousands of Muslims were murdered by the Serbs, it was absolutely essential that a majority Muslim nation be created. Those mulsims died for Islam and for their culture, they now have their own country Bosnia.

                Fact is there are hundreds of different interpretations of hadiths, there are many 'fake' hadiths, there are many schools of thought... who is right and who is wrong?? Only Allah (swt) knows.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dil he Pakistani:
                  there are many 'fake' hadiths, there are many schools of thought... who is right and who is wrong?? Only Allah (swt) knows.
                  Scholars have done a good job of sorting out the "fake" hadiths from the "real" hadiths.

                  Secondly, The none of the 4 Schools of thought claims that it is right and the others are wrong. They agree on most issues. Their 'aqeedah (belief) is the same. They all are right.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dil he Pakistani:
                    eemo, youve quoted a HADITH which prohibits Nationalism. Ok supposing Pakistan is attacked by India, should we muslims in Pakistan defend our lands from the Indian enemy or do we just let them take over thinking that there is a Hadith which says there should be no Nationalism ? In that case let the Indians kill our people, destroy our culture, our religion, our languages etc. Good example would be Bosnia which was carved out of Yugoslavia, thousands of Muslims were murdered by the Serbs, it was absolutely essential that a majority Muslim nation be created. Those mulsims died for Islam and for their culture, they now have their own country Bosnia.
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                    why does this hadith stop you from defending your borders? this hadith is there to tell "Muslims" that there should be NO nationalism among Muslims (Muslims should not divide themselves on "nationalism" basis). Muslims are (supposed to be) ONE nation.

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                      #11
                      why does this hadith stop you from defending your borders? this hadith is there to tell "Muslims" that there should be NO nationalism among Muslims (Muslims should not divide themselves on "nationalism" basis). Muslims are (supposed to be) ONE nation.

                      You are contradicting yourself! Your stating that the hadith means there should only be one nation! That means we should not be DEFENDING our borders of our existing nations. If we followed this interpretation than there would be no Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Indonesia, Egypt, Sudan, Syria etc and in times of war they should not be defending there country's borders.

                      [This message has been edited by Dil he Pakistani (edited May 28, 2002).]

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dil he Pakistani:
                        ....You are contradicting yourself! Your stating that the hadith means there should only be one nation! That means we should not be DEFENDING our borders of our existing nations. If we followed this interpretation than there would be no Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Indonesia, Egypt, Sudan, Syria etc and in times of war they should not be defending there country's borders.
                        you are mixing geographical nations with religious nations. also, if you read the hadith carefully, it says "who fights for asabiyyah", it does not include "who fights to save his nation", "land", etc.

                        take MQM for example, JSQM, or PPI (all nationalistic movements) *don't start political discussion here please*, they intend to fight for their "national" rights (for whatever reasons, whoever started it, whichever way). so these movements will be considered as "nationalistic" (dividing Muslims based on nationalism )

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                          #13
                          The hadith in relation to asabiyyah is simply stating that any form of nationalism is haraam.

                          The question of whether muslims should defend their land and their honour is a separate issue.

                          The muslim shouldnt confuse the 2 issues.

                          The muslim has been ordered by allah(swt) to protect his land and his honour in his capacity as a muslim, and not in his capacity as a Pakistani, or Iranian, Jordanian etc etc.

                          Thus when the kafir enter the islamic or muslim land he should be repelled with prejudice because he is an open enemy.

                          In truth the disbelievers are an open enemy to you. Surah An-Nisaa:101

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                            #14
                            Yaar, what is 'Nationalism'? it means "Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation."

                            Now from eemos post "And in another hadith, the Messenger of Allah (saw) referring to nationalism, racism, and patriotism said "Leave it, it is rotten". [Muslim and Bukhari]"

                            which means there should not be any seperate Muslim nations. Therefore, we should not be defending our borders.

                            As for the MQM argument thats a seperate issue altogether.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by eemo:
                              The hadith in relation to asabiyyah is simply stating that any form of nationalism is haraam.
                              Asabiyyah and Nationalism is not the same thing.

                              Farhad

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