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    please can anybody tellme y does the hindu CHITA face the same way as the muslim grave

    and y do all hindu temples face the same way a mosque does



    #2
    It's teh other way around Doctor sahib. Hinduism was here for thousands of years before the illustrius mohammed got the revelation.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Chaltahai:
      It's teh other way around Doctor sahib. Hinduism was here for thousands of years before the illustrius mohammed got the revelation.

      my point also.muslims know why.i wanted to see if hindus remembered or if anybody else does

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        #4
        well

        i dont know much abt it...

        but the theory is that, Allah send many apostles in this world over diffrent time, and different nations and diffent locations.

        As we know that, the civiliztion in this area of the world is very OLD, so we can assume that, there were many apostles and prophets send over this area.

        we also know that Hazraz Ibrahim has a very important position in the prophets as he constructed Khaana khaaba, and many prophets decended after him. and they preacehd the same teachings as Hazrat Ibrahim did..

        and verily hindus might also have prophets whivh guided them on the same track, but as we know that the teachings of the prophets in every relegion have been distrotted. so we can say that the hindus might have been following the same tradition which their prophets said..

        rest Allah knows better..

        this is all..

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          #5
          Interesting.

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            #6
            welcome back Dr.Naveed , where you have been??
            thanks for the articles, they were informative and helpfull.

            since you have started a thread about hinduism may i ask one question too?

            why are hindu temples pornographic if they are suppose to be holy???? may be these are standerds of holiness for hindus...
            I don't know much so i am asking.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Chaltahai:
              It's teh other way around Doctor sahib. Hinduism was here for thousands of years before the illustrius mohammed got the revelation.
              I can measure your IQ level or may be decency level by the kind of words you are using.


              WHO YOU CALLING "illustrius". support your answer or stop *****ing around.


              who is illustrius??? the creators of your damm looking statues, sick karma satra or senseless fantsieis.

              or the most influential man of this world???
              or the Founder of many great empires and the most successfull person ever.

              HAve you read the book 100 most influential people????????????????//where does it talks about any ******* hindu rreligious/spiritual leader(gandhi is not consider consider a religious leader or personaliety)? BECAUSE NONE OF THEM WAS WORTH IT. The writer admired Muhmmad in these words

              Michael Hart in 'The 100, A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons In History,' New York, 1978.

              My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the secular and religious level. ...It is probable that the relative influence of Muhammad on Islam has been larger than the combined influence of Jesus Christ and St. Paul on Christianity. ...It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human hist


              Dr. William Draper in 'History of Intellectual Development of Europe'

              Four years after the death of Justinian, A.D. 569, was born in Mecca, in Arabia, the man who, of all men, has exercised the greatest influence upon the human race... To be the religious head of many empires, to guide the daily life of one-third of the human race, may perhaps justify the title of a Messenger of God.

              Sir George Bernard Shaw in 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.

              "If any religion had the chance of ruling over England, nay Europe within the next hundred years, it could be Islam."
              “I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion for from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity."

              "I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today.”

              Dr. William Draper in 'History of Intellectual Development of Europe'

              Four years after the death of Justinian, A.D. 569, was born in Mecca, in Arabia, the man who, of all men, has exercised the greatest influence upon the human race... To be the religious head of many empires, to guide the daily life of one-third of the human race, may perhaps justify the title of a Messenger of God.



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                Alphonse de LaMartaine in 'Historie de la Turquie,' Paris, 1854.

                "Never has a man set for himself, voluntarily or involuntarily, a more sublime aim, since this aim was superhuman; to subvert superstitions which had been imposed between man and his Creator, to render God unto man and man unto God; to restore the rational and sacred idea of divinity amidst the chaos of the material and disfigured gods of idolatry, then existing. Never has a man undertaken a work so far beyond human power with so feeble means, for he (Muhammad) had in the conception as well as in the execution of such a great design, no other instrument than himself and no other aid except a handful of men living in a corner of the desert. Finally, never has a man accomplished such a huge and lasting revolution in the world, because in less than two centuries after its appearance, Islam, in faith and in arms, reigned over the whole of Arabia, and conquered, in God's name, Persia Khorasan, Transoxania, Western India, Syria, Egypt, Abyssinia, all the known continent of Northern Africa, numerous islands of the Mediterranean Sea, Spain, and part of Gaul.
                "If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws, and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples, dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and the souls.

                "On the basis of a Book, every letter which has become law, he created a spiritual nationality which blend together peoples of every tongue and race. He has left the indelible characteristic of this Muslim nationality the hatred of false gods and the passion for the One and Immaterial God. This avenging patriotism against the profanation of Heaven formed the virtue of the followers of Muhammad; the conquest of one-third the earth to the dogma was his miracle; or rather it was not the miracle of man but that of reason.

                "The idea of the unity of God, proclaimed amidst the exhaustion of the fabulous theogonies, was in itself such a miracle that upon it's utterance from his lips it destroyed all the ancient temples of idols and set on fire one-third of the world. His life, his meditations, his heroic revelings against the superstitions of his country, and his boldness in defying the furies of idolatry, his firmness in enduring them for fifteen years in Mecca, his acceptance of the role of public scorn and almost of being a victim of his fellow countrymen: all these and finally, his flight his incessant preaching, his wars against odds, his faith in his success and his superhuman security in misfortune, his forbearance in victory, his ambition, which was entirely devoted to one idea and in no manner striving for an empire; his endless prayers, his mystic conversations with God, his death and his triumph after death; all these attest not to an imposture but to a firm conviction which gave him the power to restore a dogma. This dogma was twofold the unity of God and the immateriality of God: the former telling what God is, the latter telling what God is not; the one overthrowing false gods with the sword, the other starting an idea with words.

                "Philosopher, Orator, Apostle, Legislator, Conqueror of Ideas, Restorer of Rational beliefs.... The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?"

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                  #9
                  Masha Allah Secret_obsession !!

                  Very Jazbaati - I'm impressed

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                    #10
                    Thanks Khoon-e-Shaheed

                    Hindus on this fourm with the exception of Andhra, have no common sense and no solid point to base their criticism.

                    they just say whatever comes to their mouth.

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                    "Philosopher, Orator, Apostle, Legislator, Conqueror of Ideas, Restorer of Rational beliefs.... The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?"

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by secret_obsession:
                      welcome back Dr.Naveed , where you have been??
                      thanks for the articles, they were informative and helpfull.

                      since you have started a thread about hinduism may i ask one question too?

                      why are hindu temples pornographic if they are suppose to be holy???? may be these are standerds of holiness for hindus...
                      I don't know much so i am asking.

                      The ancient Indians took a healthy, integrated view of all aspects of life and gave sex its due importance in the overall picture. The pursuit of pleasure (kama) is one of the important aims of life, on the path to deliverance.


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                        #12
                        Originally posted by secret_obsession:
                        Thanks Khoon-e-Shaheed

                        Hindus on this fourm with the exception of Andhra, have no common sense and no solid point to base their criticism.

                        they just say whatever comes to their mouth.


                        They must've picked it up on this forum from the rest of you.

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                          #13
                          LOL this thread is funny! Hindu temples face kabah .. LOL !!

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                            #14
                            Sair- Ul-Okul which is an anthology of ancient
                            Arabic poetry. this book will reveal lot about ancient india.

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                              #15
                              thanks rivkz for the response.

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                              "Philosopher, Orator, Apostle, Legislator, Conqueror of Ideas, Restorer of Rational beliefs.... The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?"

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