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    which jamat we should join to bring change

    Those who want to work to bring Islam as a system soon become aware of it that cant be done alone working seperately
    And Islam also says that there should be jamat

    There are many jamats working to change the current system and to bring islam as a system in whole the life

    In other words working for revival of muslims.

    The question which arises in every ones mind is that which jamat we should join.Althoung thay all are working for islam but there is lot of differences between them


    Imaam az-Zuhree (the famous taabi'ee, d.124H) said,"The people of knowledge who came before us used to say,'Salvation lies in clinging to the Sunnah.'" Reported by ad-Daarimee in his Sunan (no.96).

    Imaam Maalik said,"The Sunnah is like the Ark of Noah. Whoever embarks upon it reaches salvation and whoever refuses is drowned." Quoted by Shaikh ul-Islaam Ibn Taimiyyah in Majmoo' ul-fataawaa (4/57).

    It is authentically reported that Allaah's Messenger said,"Stick to my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the rightly guided Caliphs after me, cling to that with your molar teeth and beware of new matters, for every innovation is misguidance." Reported by Ahmad, Abu Daawood (Eng. trans. 3/1294/no.4590), at-Tirmidhee (no. 2676), Ibn Maajah (no. 42), ad-Daarimee (no. 96) and Ibn Abee 'Aasim in as-Sunnah (no. 54). Shaikh al-Albaanee declares, "Its isnaad is saheeh, its narrators reliable."

    Allah(swt) knows best.

    'Rabbee zidnee`ilmaa'
    My Lord! Increase me in knowledge.[20:114]

    The Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) said:
    "Whoever sets out on a path to seek knowledge, Allaah will make easy his path to Paradise."
    [Saheeh Muslim]


      appkiamaanat | thanks for guiding me but my question is still there

      As it is in Quran that there should be jamat.

      And othere thing that there r many things which r from sunnah and Quran but this system dont allows us to follow them .The solution of this is to just change the system and bring islamic system which allows us to follow sunnah and Quran

      For this jamat is required to be joined
      isnt it
      if there is any other solution to these problems i m waiting

      Allah(swt) knows better


        The question which arises in every ones mind is that which jamat we should join.Althoung thay all are working for islam but there is lot of differences between them WHAT R UR OPENIONS TAHT HOW CAN WE CHOOSE "THE JAMAT"
        Ibrahim says : salaams to all

        Good question! Something that all of us will have to come to terms with sooner or later.

        Firstly In Islam we do not chose based on likes and dislikes that may change with time, but based on truth or untruth.

        In other words

        3:102 O ye who believe! fear Allah as He should be feared and die not except in a state of Islam.

        103 And hold fast all together by the rope which Allah (stretches out for you) and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude Allah's favor on you; for ye were enemies and He joined your hearts in love so that by His grace ye became brethren; and ye were on the brink of the pit of fire and He saved you from it. Thus doth Allah make his signs clear to you: that ye may be guided.

        104 Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong; they are the ones to attain felicity.

        105 Be not like those who are divided amongst themselves and fall into disputations after receiving clear signs; for them is a dreadful penalty.

        Ibrahim says : The criterion in this verses are

        a) Die not except in state of Islam
        b) Be not divided
        c) Hold fast to what Allah and his messenger had conveyed
        d) Vote only for the good and deny falsehood anywhere and everywhere

        Hence to be in a state of Islam , one must first know what Islam is, Islam cannot be called sunni, shia, ahmedia, ismaili or salafi, ahli hadith, ahli sunnah, ahli bait, or whatever. This labeling between ourselves means we are dividing , once we do that we have gone against the Qur’an in essence and are alienating ourselves.

        Islam is simply known as Islam, those who practice Islam are called Muslims , once we get this clear into our minds we will have little to argue about, except trying to identify how Islam is best practiced. [b] Not all of us are capable to practice Islam at 100% level, some of us will excel and others might lag behind but that should not be a cause for division, when we desire unity and brotherhood most.

        Indeed we can and must differ in our opinions, we are not machines to all have the same options and opinions in any given matter, but when we talk about Islam our goals must be and only be, what Allah (swt) had enjoined and not anything else immaterial of the goodness or evils that we may or may not see in it at that point and time, based on our level of understanding.

        Here we need to understand this

        18: 28 And keep thy soul content with those who call on their Lord morning and evening seeking his Face; and let not thine eyes pass beyond them seeking the pomp and glitter of this Life; nor obey any whose heart We have permitted to neglect the remembrance of Us one who follows his own desires whose case has gone beyond all bounds.

        4: 59 O ye who believe! obey Allah and obey the Apostle and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves refer it to Allah and His Apostle if ye do believe in Allah and the Last Day: that is best and most suitable for final determination

        Ibrahim says: Thus it is fundamental in Islam to have sound leaders or Amirs to provide CLEAR understanding of Islam and this cannot be done by one individual in our current time frame due to our current level of corruption and misconceptions, but can only be achieved by collective leadership .

        Which is what Allah (swt) approved for us, when He revealed…………

        42: 38 Those who hearken to their Lord and establish regular prayer; who (conduct) their affairs by mutual Consultation; who spend out of what We bestow on them for Sustenance;

        39 And those who when an oppressive wrong is inflicted on them (are not cowed but) help and defend themselves.

        Ibrahim says: The first step is to understand injustice anywhere is threat to our unity everywhere If a leader is in error, then he cannot be leading others.

        Which means all these current parties with their different leaders must themselves come together to unite for common good of all its members and most of all for Islam.

        so unite to eradicate injustice on a global scale , sacrifice yourself before you end up being sacrificed.

        Thus the party that we as Muslims should join is

        58:22 Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day loving those who resist Allah and His Apostle even though they were their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred. For such He has written Faith in their hearts and strengthened them with a spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow to dwell therein (for ever). Allah will be well pleased with them and they with Him. They are the Party of Allah. Truly it is the Party of Allah that will achieve Felicity

        Ibrahim say: so join the Party of Allah [ hizbul la_h ] ( not the shia hizbollah but the true party of Allah) , they exist in every community

        You will know them by the tone of their speech [b] and join all other Islamic minded parties too, to know which are willing to listen to the other and bring them closer to together by YOUR leadership, right minded actions, in brotherhood , love, compassion and wisdom .

        Remember One man united the entire nation of feuding Arabs, because he was willing to accept Islam and practice it.

        Remove ethnicity from your souls and accept all as your brother or sister in Islam. Remember Islam can have no other labels whatsoever.

        For Allah (swt) conveyed……….

        23: 52 And verily this Brotherhood of yours is a single Brotherhood and I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore fear Me (and no other).

        53 But people have cut off their affair (of unity) between them into sects: each party rejoices in that which is with itself.

        54 But leave them in their confused ignorance for a time.

        Allah (swt) knows best.
        was salaam

        The secret of failure is in trying to please everybody


          Wonderful post Ibrahim, hope some people can take guidance. Jazakallah.