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    I admit I was wrong all this time

    Well the Jihadz has started in Pakistan and I was wrogn all along. Wahabis are the greatest and truest Muslims ever known to mankind. Everyone else is a kafir. I am a kafir

    Yes, yes, we all agree and encourage suicide bombing, in Pakistan, in Algeria, in America, in Israel, in Afghanistan, India etc.

    It is what Allah has said for Muslism to do. To suicide bomb for the cause of Islam and to bring down the kafir governments who go against Islam. And this is what is now happeening in Pakistan and as a new convert wahabism I fully support it.

    I was wrong after all about suicide bombing and wahabism. I know am a Wahabi and support suicde bombign against the kafir Pakistani regime.

    Brothers, the victory is near and we will soon get Taliban governemnt in Pakistan so we cna get bombed by American B-52's.

    #2
    "Wahabis" as you call them, do not support suicide bombings, or terrorist activities which shia iran supports in Palestine or else where:

    Some "wahabi/salafi"(as faraz would call/consider them...) websites and scholars on issue:

    Suicide Bombings in the Scales of Islamic Law http://www.allaahuakbar.net/scholars...de_bombing.htm


    Shaikh Ibn Uthaimeen: The Suicide Bomber is Not A Martyr And Is In Hellfire
    Author: Shaikh Ibn Uthaimeen
    Source: Riyaadh us-Saaliheen (1/164-166), Trans. Dawud Burbank

    The Words of Shaikh Ibn Uthaymeen Concerning Suicide Bombings

    Shaikh Ibn Uthaymeen, may Allaah have mercy upon him, said in his explanation of Riyaadus-Saaliheen (1/165-166), whilst giving some points of benefit from the hadeeth of Suhayb, may Allaah be pleased with him:

    "That Allaahıs Messenger, sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam, said, "There used to be a king amongst those who came before you, and he had a sorcerer. So when he grew old he said to the king, I have become old so send a boy to me so that I can teach him sorcery" ­ the hadeeth. (Riyaadhus-Saaliheen, no. 30)

    Fourthly: That it is permissible for a person to expose himself to danger for a matter of general benefit to the Muslims, because the boy indicated to the king the way in which he would be able to kill him, and which would lead to his demise, which was that he should take an arrow from his quiver etc.

    Shaikhul-Islaam (Ibn Taymiyyah) said, "Because this was a Jihaad in Allaahıs cause, which caused a whole nation to truly believe, and he did not really lose anything, since although he died he would have to die anyway, sooner or later."

    But as for what some people do regarding activities of suicide, tying explosives to themselves and then approaching Unbelievers and detonating them amongst them, then this is a case of suicide ­ and Allaahıs refuge is sought. So whoever commits suicide then he will be consigned eternally to Hell-Fire, remaining there forever, as occurs in the hadeeth of the Prophet, sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam. (i.e., his, sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam, saying, " and whoever kills himself with an iron weapon, then the iron weapon will remain in his hand, and he will continuously stab himself in his belly with it in the Fire of Hell eternally, forever and ever." Reported by al-Bukhaaree, no. 5778 and Muslim, no. 109, in the Book of Eemaan.)

    Because this person has killed himself and has not benefited Islaam. So if he kills himself along with ten, or a hundred, or two hundred other people, then Islaam will not benefit by that, since the people will not accept Islaam, contrary to the story of the boy. Rather it will probably just make the enemy more determined, and this action will provoke malice and bitterness in his heart to such an extent that he may seek to wreak havoc upon the Muslims.

    This is what is found from the practice of the Jews with the people of Palestine ­ so when one of the Palestinian blows himself up and kills six or seven people, then in retaliation they take sixty or more. So this does not produce any benefit for the Muslims, and does not benefit those amongst whose ranks explosives are detonated.

    So what we hold is that those people who perform these suicide (bombings) have wrongfully committed suicide, and that this necessitates entry into Hell-Fire, and Allaahıs refuge is sought and that this person is not a martyr (shaheed). However if a person has done this based upon misinterpretation, thinking that it is permissible, then we hope that he will be saved from sin, but as for martyrdom being written for him, then no, since he has not taken the path of martyrdom. But whoever performs ijtihaad and errs will receive a single reward (if he is a person qualified to make ijtihaad)."

    More... in next reply:




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    This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you [i]Islam as your religion. - Surah Al-Ma'idah, verse 3

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      #3
      Faraz, by becoming/associating yourself with "wahabi" you are only harming your self. Allah says in Quran:
      6:159 As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah. He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.

      Shame on you. You think, by saying you are a "wahabi," and then saying that "you support terrorism and suicide bombings..." you can fool other much intelligent and learnt people? You are only mugging yourself. Because facts STAND out against your cheap, empty lies and deceptive tactics to hurt someone you hate on basis of their opinion strictly being from Quran and Sunnah and yours being from hindu rituals that you can't let go of.

      Please read my reply above and more here:

      Shaikh Ibn Uthaimeen on Committing Suicide Attacking The Enemy by Blowing Oneself Up In a Car

      Author: Shaikh Ibn Uthaimeen
      Source: Kaifa Nu'aaliju Waaqi'unaa al-Aleem

      Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen on Attacking the enemy by blowing oneself up in a car

      Question: What is the ruling regarding acts of jihaad by means of suicide, such as attaching explosives to a car and storming the enemy, whereby he knows without a doubt that he shall die as a result of this action?

      Response: Indeed, my opinion is that he is regarded as one who has killed himself (committed suicide), and as a result he shall be punished in Hell, for that which is authenticated on the authority of the Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam).

      [((Indeed, whoever (intentionally) kills himself, then certainly he will be punished in the Fire of Hell, wherein he shall dwell forever)), [Bukhaaree (5778) and Muslim (109 and 110)]].

      However, one who is ignorant and does not know, and assumes his action was good and pleasing to Allaah (Subhaanahu wa Ta'aala), then we hope Allaah (Subhaanahu wa Ta'aala) forgives him for that which he did out of (ignorant) ijtihaad, even though I do not find any excuse for him in the present day. This is because this type of suicide is well known and widespread amongst the people, so it is upon the person to ask the people of knowledge (scholars) regarding it, until the right guidance for him is differentiated from the error.

      And from that which is surprising, is that these people kill themselves despite Allaah having fordbidden this, as He (Subhaanahu wa Ta'aala) says:

      {And do not kill yourselves. Surely, Allaah is Most Merciful to you}, [Soorah an-Nisaa., Aayah 29].

      And many amongst them do not desire anything except revenge of the enemy, by whatever means, be it halaal or haraam. So they only want to satisfy their thirst for revenge.

      We ask Allaah to bless us with foresight in His Deen and action(s) which please Him, indeed He is all Powerful over all things.

      Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen
      Kayfa Nu'aalij Waaqi'unaa al-Aleem - Page 119

      Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen on Committing suicide

      Question:[/b] What is the ruling regarding suicide in Islaam?

      Response: Suicide is when a person kills himself intentionally by whatever means. This is haraam and regarded as amongst the major sins, and likewise included in the general statement of Allaah (Subhaanahu wa Ta'aala):

      {And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell to abide therein, and the Wrath and the Curse of Allaah are upon him, and a great punishment is prepared for him}, [Soorah an-Nisaa, Aayah 93].

      And it is established from the Sunnah on the authority of the Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) who said:

      ((Indeed, whoever (intentionally) kills himself, then certainly he will be punished in the Fire of Hell, wherein he shall dwell forever)), [Bukhaaree (5778) and Muslim (109 and 110)].

      In reality, the one who commits suicide, generally does so because of his desperate situation, either as a direct result of an act of Allaah or a human being. So you find him unable to cope with that which has afflicted him, and in actual fact he is like one who is calling for help from the scorching heat of the fire. So he has progressed from that which was tough (bad) to that which is worse. And if he was patient, then Allaah would have assisted him in dealing with the difficulty.

      Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen
      Kayfa Nu'aalij Waaqi'unaa al-Aleem - Page 120

      Feeling nauseated at your self and cheap tactics you put forth? If you had little brain capacity in you, you would heed your foolish acts and come to your senses that stiring hate with your hateful remarks won't do much damage to others but will effect you more and hurt you in the long run.


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      This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you [i]Islam as your religion. - Surah Al-Ma'idah, verse 3

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        #4
        Why are you getting so upset if I mention Wahabis? You yourself have said that Wahabis dont even exist.

        If they don't exist, why do you care what I say about them.

        If I curse Wahabis, what is it to you? Are you a Wahabi or a Sunni?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Faraz Mir:
          Why are you getting so upset if I mention Wahabis? You yourself have said that Wahabis dont even exist.

          If they don't exist, why do you care what I say about them.

          If I curse Wahabis, what is it to you? Are you a Wahabi or a Sunni?

          My job was to clarify your stand on the issue FOR the "wahabis," and I did that. Lets concentrate on the issue. So, how is "wahabism" so for? Is it holding tight on you?


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          This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you [i]Islam as your religion. - Surah Al-Ma'idah, verse 3

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