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    Is oral sex allowed in Islam.
    guys i need your feedback
    the game of snakes and ladders captures the eternal truth that for every ladder there is a snake waiting around the corner. and for every snake there a ladder will compensate.

    #2
    Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth (have sexual relations with your wives in any manner as long as it is in the vagina and not in the anus), when or how you will, and send (good deeds, or ask Allh to bestow upon you pious offspring) before you for your ownselves. And fear Allh, and know that you are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give good tidings to the believers (O Muhammad ). (Al-Baqarah 2:223

    I don't know much about this issue, but i think it is permissible, as long as you don't do anything that is forbidden.

    I know there is a hadiths about when the prophet's wives were having their menses, i'll find the exact hadiths, and insh'Allah post it.

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      #3
      Oral sex between a husband and wife is considered as Makruh Tahrimi by the jurists, since there is strong possibility that by ejaculation, Mazi occurs and enters the mouth of the partner. There is consensus amongst the Fuqahaa that Mazi is Najis (impure)

      ORAL SEX

      Man has been created as a bearer of high and noble attributes. In him he mirros the attributes of divinity (Sifaat-e-Ilaahiyya) such as life, knowledge, power, will, sight, hearing, speech, love, etc. In the authoritative Tafseer of the aforementioned Aayat, it is said that Insaan (man) has been adorned with the Noor of Aql (the light of intelligence). This celestial faculty of intelligence creates in Insaan the capacity for the manifestation of the lofty and divine attributes of Allah Tala. By virtue of the Noor of Aql man becomes incandescent by being a mirror for these lofty attributes and manifestation (Tajalliyaat-e-Zilliyah and Sifaat-e-Zaatiyyah). As a direct consequence of this lofty pedestal which Insaan occupies in the Divine Scheme, the mantle of Khilaafah (vicegerency) has been conferred on him. Stating this fact, the Qurn declares: 'Verily I shall be creating on earth a Khaleefah.'

      In the Tafseer of the Aayat mentioned at the beginning, it is also said that in relation to all the species of life, man has been endowned with the most beautiful form. All other animals have been created in a lowly form with their heads downwards. Their faces constantly pointing downwards to the earth indicate their low rank in relation to man. In contrast, man has been created upright and he eats his food by means of raising it with his hands unlike the lowly beasts with faces downwards.

      HIS DEBASEMENT

      In the Tafseer of the Aayat, it is said that when man willingly destroys his natural ability to progress to the pedestals of elevation, he degenerates and falls from his lofty mansion. He then falls to levels lower than the level of dogs, pigs and even Shayaateen.

      SUPERIORITY

      According to the authentic Tafaseer, prior to the creation of Aadam (layhis salaam), the Malaaikah (angels) entertained the opinion that Allah Tala will not create any being superior to them. Allah Tala negates this opinion of the Malaaikah by creating Aadam (layhis salaam) and making him a manifestation of divine attributes. To illustrate Insaan's superiority over all pecies of creation, Allah Tala commanded the Malaaikah to make Sajdah (prostration) to him (Nabi Aadam (layhis salaam). The superiority of man is well emphasised by the statement of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu layhi Wasallam): 'Allah created Aadam in His (Allah's) form.' Insha Allah, this Hadith will be explained in greater detail in some future issue of 'the Majlis'. Here it is sufficient to mention the interpretation of the authorities intelligence, sight, hearing, etc. These lofty attributes are located in that part of the human body called head. It is for this reason that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu layhi Wasallam) forbade striking or slapping the face of any human being or even an animal. In the Tafseer of the Qurnic Aayat which permits husbands to beat wives in cases of necessity, it is said: 'The face shall not be slapped'. Explaining the reason for the prohibition of slapping the face, Imaam Nawawi (RA) says in his Sharhul Muslim, 'Because the face is the embodiment of man's beauty in addition to it being of sublime nature.'

      THE LATAA-IF-E-SITTAH

      In man there are six metaphysical or non-material or spiritual faculties known as the Lataa-if-e-sittah. Two of these lofty faculties, viz. Lateefah Khaafi and Lateefah Akhfa are located in the head. The Lateefah Akhfah is located in the centre of the brain while the location of Lateefah Khafi is between the eyebrows. The functions of these faculties are the highest states of reflection and contemplation, progressing from the high state of Fana to Fanul Fana. These are spiritual or Roohani stages which shall not be discussed in this article.

      PATHWAY FOR QURN

      In the Ahaadith, the following narration appears.

      'Verily, your mouths are pathways of the Qurn, therefore purify your mouths with Miswaak'.

      The Makhaarij or places from whence Qurnic huroof (letters) emanate are located in the mouth. The high Ibaadat of Tilaawat of the Qurn shareef is effected via the mouth, hence the Hadith describes the mouth as the 'pathway of the Qurn'. Since it is, literally speaking, the channel for the recitation of the Qurn shareef, Rasulullah (Sallallaahu layhi Wasallam) emphasised much the maintainance of its purity. The emphasis on the purity of the mouth could be gauged from the many times Rasulullah (Sallallaahu layhi Wasallam) would use the Miswaak everyday to clean his mouth. The practice of Miswaak is strongly stressed by the Sharih. In one Hadith, Rasulullah (Sallallaahu layhi Wasallam) said, 'When the servant of Allah uses the Miswaak and then performs Salaat, an angel stands behind him, listening attentively to the recitation of the Qurn. The angels draws closer and closer to the reciter and places his mouth on the mouth of the reciter. Thus every word emanating from the mouth of the Musalli enters the angel's mouth. Therefore, maintain your mouth pure and clean for the Qurn.

      ZIKRULLAH

      The actual purpose underlying the creation of man is Zikrullah or the remembrance of Allah Tala. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu layhi Wasallam) ordered Muslims to maintain their tongues fresh with the Zikr of Allah Tala.

      The facts mentioned above will indicate that Insaan is Ashraful Makhlukaat (the noblest of creation) and the noblest part of his body is his head which is the location for lofty faculties and attributes which earn for him the designation of 'the form of Allah'. In order that he maintains his lofty rank and progresses continuously towards loftier mansions and closer Divine Proximity, it is essential that man exercises restraint over his physical and animal qualities. If he fails in this respect, he will descend to a level below the lowly beasts. Allah Tala has endowed man with intelligence, will-power and shame. He must employ these attributes to subdue his animal and carnal desires and refrain from indulgence in the excesses of lust. If he fails in this achievement he will annihilate himself spiritually and degenerate to sub-animal levels.

      The sublimity of Islam is of such a lofty degree that it exhorts its adherence to adopt dignity, deportment and propriety in even sexual relationship. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu layhi Wasallam) advised his Ummah to abstain from total nudity when indulging in sex and not to behave 'like asses'. Since Islam is a culture of transcendental values calculated to ensure maximum remembrance of Allah Tala, a Muslim should not debase himself to a sub-animal level by resorting to the vile practice of oral sex.

      The mouth of Insaan is the pathway of the Qurn, his tongue has been commanded to remain fresh with Zikrullah; his mouth is situated in the noblest part of his body; the functions of his mouth are noble and lofty; his mouth is a passageway for transference of the recited Qurn into the mouth of the listening angel. He cannot, therefore, debase and dishonour himself so disgracefully by resorting to the revolting practice of oral sex. A Muslim should not dishonour that head and face which the Sharih of Islam commands to be honoured. Allah Tala honoured the human head with noble qualities, the highest being the Noor of Aql, but man debases that lofty part of his body by indulging in an act of bestiality not even committed by the lowly beasts. It does not behove man in general, and a Muslim in particular to degrade himself in this manner.

      The Mu'min's link with Allah Tala is so strong or ought to be so strong that the Sharih has prescribed a particular Du to be recited even when a man approaches his wife for sexual relations. Even at the moment of reaching climax and ejaculation, the Muslim is required to read in his mind (without moving the lips) a special Du so that he remains protected from any Shaitaani interference. We learn from the Hadith of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu layhi Wasallam) that Shaytaan attempts to interfere with man even while he indulges in lawful sex, hence the wording of the special Du for this occasion is: 'O Allah! Protect us from Shaytaan and protect the offspring you grant us from Shaytaan'.

      Allah Tala has honoured man highly, hence the Qurn says, 'Verily, we have honoured the sons of Aadam.' He is therefore not allowed to debase himself with the bestial acts which even the lowly beasts do not commit.

      The mouth is an honoured part of the physical body. It is not a receptacle of impurity. The Sharih emphasises the maintainance of its purity. Even in the developing foetus, Allah Tala has arranged for the maintainance of the purity of the mouth. The umbilical cord connects the developing embryo to its mother. It is the passageway in which exchange of nutrient and waste materials with the circulatory system of the mother takes place. In man the umbilical cord arises at the navel below which is the location of the rebellious Nafs which reduces man to sub-animal levels if not restrained. Why does Allah Tala not create the foetus with the umbilical cord attached to its mouth so that its nutrition reaches it in the normal way, viz. Via the mouth? Right until the very last moments prior to its emergence into the external world, the baby's nutrition is via the umblical cord. Immediately on reaching the outside world its nourishment reaches it from the mouth. Since the umbilical cord is also the passageway for impure waste matter, its connection is near to the location of the lowly nafs. The mouth has thus been guarded against impurities.

      The facts presented in this article should be sufficient to convey to Muslims that their Imaan and the spirit of the teachings of Islam do not permit them to grovel in the dregs of debasement and perpetrate moral injustice by utilising the mouth for deriving sexual pleasure. This is not the function of the mouth. It is a misappropriation of an amaanat (trust). All parts of the body are Amaanat which have to be utilised in accordance with the instructions of Allah Tala. Such contamination and moral pollution as entailed by oral sex are most unbecoming the dignity and rank of man, especially if the Insaan appears to be a follower of the illustrious Sharih of Muhammad (Sallallaahu layhi Wasallam). Allah Tala states in the Noble Qurn, 'Verily, Allah loves those who purify themselves.'

      Extracted from 'The Majlis' Vol. 6 No. 8

      And Allah Tala Knows Best.

      Was salaam

      Yours faithfully

      Mufti Ebrahim Desai
      FATWA DEPT.


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      Pakistan Zindabad!

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        #4
        ... (have sexual relations with your wives in any manner as long as it is in the vagina and not in the anus)...
        can someone share the arabic in the qur'an from which this was translated.. or are these random ramblings of the translator him/herself who considers his/her personal words good enough to insert between Allah's words?
        JaddoN kaddya jaloos ghareeba tay shehr ich choatalee lug gayee

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          #5
          Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
          can someone share the arabic in the qur'an from which this was translated.. or are these random ramblings of the translator him/herself who considers his/her personal words good enough to insert between Allah's words?
          This is a widely accepted interpretation.


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            #6
            good.. so it's agreed that these are the translators own words.

            I disagree with him/her. and these shouldn't be part of the translation but should be part of comments on the verse so the general public shouldn't be fed an organized point of view established by the religious mafia.
            JaddoN kaddya jaloos ghareeba tay shehr ich choatalee lug gayee

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              #7
              Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
              good.. so it's agreed that these are the translators own words.

              I disagree with him/her. and these shouldn't be part of the translation but should be part of comments on the verse so the general public shouldn't be fed an organized point of view established by the religious mafia.
              In other words, what you are trying to say is that Anal sex is not prohibited in Islam? Well, you can say that without making a big deal out of a translation.

              There are authentic ahadeeths prohibiting anal sex. I am sure you do not value sunnah of the prophet, khalifites only consider Quran as only the source for islamic ruling and they overlook the importance of sunnah.

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                #8
                when did I say that?? do not put words in my mouth.

                My objection is to any translator's whimsical insertion of their own words and 'popular' understanding in the divine word of Allah.

                I wonder who these khalifites are.. but if they believe in what u say they do.. i like them already.
                JaddoN kaddya jaloos ghareeba tay shehr ich choatalee lug gayee

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:


                  I wonder who these khalifites are.. but if they believe in what u say they do.. i like them already.
                  Well, you advocate the need to shun sunnah of prophet and stick with quran. You know exactly what I am talking about when I say "khalifites," don't dodge the cult you follow so dearly.


                  [This message has been edited by Serial Guppy (edited April 12, 2002).]

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Serial Guppy:
                    Well, you advocate the need to shun sunnah of prophet and stick with quran. You know exactly what I am talking about when I say "khalifites," don't dodge the cult you follow so dearly.
                    yeah one similarity and you jump to conclusions... it pains you doesn't it that you can't bash me on the basis of my allegiance to a certain sect..
                    JaddoN kaddya jaloos ghareeba tay shehr ich choatalee lug gayee

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
                      it pains you doesn't it that you can't bash me on the basis of my allegiance to a certain sect..
                      It's far easier to bash you on the basis of your beliefs !!!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
                        yeah one similarity and you jump to conclusions... it pains you doesn't it that you can't bash me on the basis of my allegiance to a certain sect..
                        Its a BIG similarity... I will tell you when we get in such discussion related to Sunnah of the prophet and its followers(dead and alive).

                        Do you consider facts as an instrument for bashing? If you do, you will have trouble dealing with them, when we do get in discussion related to Sunnah. Cheers!

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
                          good.. so it's agreed that these are the translators own words.

                          I disagree with him/her. and these shouldn't be part of the translation but should be part of comments on the verse so the general public shouldn't be fed an organized point of view established by the religious mafia.
                          I agree with you brother

                          the game of snakes and ladders captures the eternal truth that for every ladder there is a snake waiting around the corner. and for every snake there a ladder will compensate.

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                            #14
                            well i guess i will say no more replies to this please....it is becoming more of a sectoraial thing than otherwise..
                            the game of snakes and ladders captures the eternal truth that for every ladder there is a snake waiting around the corner. and for every snake there a ladder will compensate.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Shehzaada:
                              In the Tafseer of the Aayat mentioned at the beginning, it is also said that in relation to all the species of life, man has been endowned with the most beautiful form. All other animals have been created in a lowly form with their heads downwards. Their faces constantly pointing downwards to the earth indicate their low rank in relation to man. In contrast, man has been created upright and he eats his food by means of raising it with his hands unlike the lowly beasts with faces downwards.
                              i thought the squirrels ate with their hands.. and sometimes the parrorts/ eagles as well..

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