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***1924 (TheHistory Of Our Islamic State)***

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    ***1924 (TheHistory Of Our Islamic State)***

    The truth about the state
    It wasn't always like this
    Let us look back in time
    History reminds us
    One army
    One land

    One central authority
    Crushing the romans
    persians put in fear
    The Ummah like a Lion
    No need to shed a tear

    When the village was attacked by the kufar
    The Khalife heard
    The sister cry &
    Prepared for war
    Attacking the city

    Destroying it
    from existence
    Lesson # 1
    Don't ever
    Mess with Muslims

    The Imam of the Ummah is a shield where he protects the Ummah and where the Ummah fights behind him
    Where is this shield today to protect the Ummah?? What happen to this shield to honor and dignify the Ummah???
    In 1917 Prime Minister of britain after entering Jerusalem stated “the crusade war has ended”
    In the same year the french general, goro went to the grave of Salahudeen-Ayubi
    Salahudeen-Ayubi, the one who 730 years prier crushed the crusades and liberated Palestine & Syria
    he went to his grave in Damascus and kicked it and said wake up oh Salahudeen we hare here …

    How did they do this
    to you and me
    We turn on the TV
    and all we see
    is a world full of casualties
    a generation in agony
    our Ummah is in misery
    let us go back
    to beginning of the century
    and review our history

    from one side
    to the other side of the globe
    the system of Islam
    Ruled over the world
    They went to the Muslims
    for the all their solutions
    from mathematics to biology
    to the advancements in technology

    the kafir women
    use to imitate our women
    they wanted the same respect
    that the Muslims sisters were given while the enemies of Islam
    were trying to twist the Quran
    trying to write a Surah like Allah’s they all failed miserably
    & many of them responded with
    Allah has challenged the humanity until the day of judgment to produce a Sura or an Aya like the Quran
    And Allah assures that they will never be able to make an Aya like it
    The kufar plan and work to destroy this Deen and Allah affirms that we too are planning
    and if all the people of the world got together they still could not and will never be able to put even a scratch a side of a muster seeds on the THRONE of ALMIGHTY ALLAH (SWT)

    After failing on the battlefield
    they kufar got together
    and they decided to yield
    they said we must change
    the way the Muslims think
    and sure enough

    the Muslim Ummah
    began to sink
    In 1917 john belford
    promised Palestine
    to the jews 31 years later
    his promise went through

    brittan and france
    split the Muslim lands
    3 years later
    Islam worst traitor
    mustafa kamal
    Brought the states fall

    In 1920’s mustafah kammal with the help of the british becomes the hero
    Hmm… well this so-called hero cancels the authority of the most powerful system suitable for human beings
    he abandon all the rulings of Allah… he did not stop there….
    He banded the Adan in Arabic, he denied Muslim sister from obeying Allah (SWT) by abandoning the Hijab
    All Islamic calendars and holidays were canceled
    Yes brothers and sisters…
    he changes the Arabic alphabet to Latin
    By doing so he made sure the next generation will be lost and have no connection to their Islamic roots
    as they can not read or write all the Islamic culture that was recorded
    This Islamic system sent by the Creator of ALAMEEN went from the application in life to be in museums for people to go and see in turkey
    In 1924
    Our state was demolished
    Hundred years of planning And their plans were accomplished
    Kafirs broke our bond
    Contaminated our knowledge
    Better listen up
    because you won't learn this in college
    Beginning of the end
    and the divisions began
    Step by step
    they divided our lands
    in 1921 saudi arabia & iran next year egypt &
    In 32 iraq
    In 1945
    jordan indonesia
    Lebonen & syria
    Two years later
    The division of India
    the Muslims took a stand
    and demanded
    the ruling of Islam
    so they gave them pakistan
    but it was only an illusion a false resolution
    far from the solution
    In 1948 The Jews establish their
    israeli state

    In 1901 the kufar went to Sultan Abdull Hamid the II and offered to pay tremendous amount of money to the Islamic State for Palestine. Sultan Abdull Hamid the II replied:
    I am not going to give one inch of Palestine to the jews as Palestine is not mine to give but it belongs to the Ummah and Ummah have shed blood to defend this land but if one day the Islamic State falls apart then you can have Palestine for free but as long as I am alive I would rather have my flesh be cut up then cut out Palestine from the Muslim land I WILL NOT ALLOW ANY CARVING UP WHILE WE ARE ALIVE!!!!!

    In 1960's
    somolia & nigaria
    kuwait & algeria
    In 1964 Came the PLO
    yasar arafat
    The US scarecrow
    a great declined
    In 1969
    When the west was training Muslims scholars for hire
    Jews were setting
    Al-Aqsa mosque on fire!
    Let us recall 1970
    For those who don't remember
    That was the year
    That we had black September
    The king of Jordan
    & Yaser Arafat
    Began their plot
    Shot after shot
    Muslim blood spilled
    As innocent Muslims were killed
    Communism attacked
    but Muslims fought back

    The sincere Mujahideen of Afghanistan fought and pushed back the Russians
    and then They started to fight among themselves
    Khomaine became in power with the promise of ruling and raising the Ummah to a level of dignity
    But his promise never went through soon after iran and iraq went to war
    And millions of innocent Muslims died for 10 years Muslims killing Muslims
    Over what!!!??? What else…!!! the agenda of the west!!! …at the end there were no resolution
    Today iran is very much open to democracy and reformation
    and the Muslims in iraq continue to suffer….
    SUBHANALLAH!…. where is the Amir of the Ummah??!!!!…..

    Another decade gone
    But we still don't have Islam
    Take a look at the gulf
    And the killings of Sadam
    Over million Muslims died
    But no one answered their cries
    In the 1990's
    The Muslim genocide


    It’s year 2000
    And nothing has changed
    Past generation has aged
    Let us write the next page
    It’s time for us to change
    It’s up to you & me
    Either we make history
    or we become history…

    so no body is interested in the history..
    Cant believe this Ummah! ha


      The truth about the state
      It wasn't always like this
      Let us look back in time
      History reminds us
      One army
      One land


      oh puhleeze..

      how far back are we going?
      800AD when we had a khilafat set up in Morocco as well as Baghdad. - though which finally did accept the Abbasid Khalifa

      1200 AD when we had no khilafat in Baghdad i.e. no khilafat what so ever

      1500 AD.. when we had the fatimid army protecting the Makkah anf Medina.

      Ottoman army in Ottoman Empire - which was not khilafat at that time

      Sokoto caliphate - in Mali, Nigeria and Niger

      the Moravids in Morocco

      the mughals in India (who had repeated wars with their muslim bretheren from Afghanistan)

      the Sultanate in Indonesia.


      you really mean to tell me this was one government with one army?

      when your first line can be so off line in history - i have no desire to read rest of it and try to correct your history.


        He doesn't mean that is always was like that. If you go early enough in Islamic history, yes we did have one army. Now, that should be our role model.

        And another thing, our rulers were not controlled by the Kuffar before. Now, the Kuffar try to poison us in a sly manner, because they control our rulers.

        Good Job, Dirty Dawg.. Don't be discouraged if someone disses you.

        Actually, I don't think it's the fault of black zero either. Muslims are generally unsuspecting , and they tend to think that the Kuffar are just like us in terms of tolerance and good will.


          Some non-muslims are unsuspecting, tolerant, and have no other agenda than good will. The scheming, machinations, and murder by the powerful can be done by any ethnic, religious group. There seems to have been more wrongs done to the Ummah in the past by some arrogant westerners than recently, in a direct way. Does Islam speak to the subject of pride?



            if he was talking about before... then why say 1924 in the Topic..


              Originally posted by blackzero:

              if he was talking about before... then why say 1924 in the Topic..
              cause thats the title... and 1924 because its when we fell apart.. its the time when the state was demolish!


                and as i explained.. we were never together...

                so no point in claiming otherwise.. as it is a lie


                  I read in another thread that Mohammed was responsible for establishing more than 20 states in his "career". This does seem to syncronize with the concept of different cultures being a gift of Allah. When people debase a religion, culture, national image, what is there to have any respect for on this earth?


                    “And those who disbelieve are allies to one another. And if you (Muslims) do not do so (become united), there will be Fitnah and oppression on earth, and a great mischief and corruption.” [Al-Anfal: 73]


                      Originally posted by blackzero:
                      and as i explained.. we were never together...

                      so no point in claiming otherwise.. as it is a lie
                      go read history of kalafat (khalafa)

                      “Hold fast to the Rope of Allah, and do not be divided.” [Al-Imran: 103]


                        With no disrespect intended, in all truth, how long did the ideal Muslim civilization last? The Ottoman Turks were not noted for a lack of oppresion, if I remember correctly. I do not suggest that one should not fight against oppression, mischief, corruption, or evil in general. I consider the contribution made by Mohammed to (re)introduce belief in the one true diety and align this with civil law to be a great plus for the Arabs, firstly, and other peoples as well. There is the specter of the persecution of sects that seem to be quite counter productive for your side of things. The idea of a Muslim superpower running through some threads here is not lost on me, by any means.


                          I have read the history in fair detail..

                          and at no one time in history after 700AD where there was unity in the muslims.

                          stating a verse of Quran is clutching on straws. I am not disputing that there should be unity...

                          what I am disputing are the claims that the muslims were united till 1924 under an "Islamic Government".

                          As Tomasso pointed out that the Ottomans were quite well noted for their oppression of their subjects.. so how can such a government prevent oppression.

                          To go with your statement of the verses of Quran.. it is our duty as muslims to get rid of oppression.

                          Which I think they did.. its just they haven't found their way back to unity.. which they will in time.. but at least they are not oppressed.


                            muslims are not homogenous group like chinese
                            and they dont live in one country like
                            indians and chinese. how many times you
                            talk about indonesia which is largest islamic
                            country. islam too focused on arab an mid-east


                              guys i will get back to u on it with the profs..
                              right now i can just say that if u even say that there was not one islami nation.. and were apart.. but they were part of ummah and one army of Allah..and there were no borders for muslim and to travel on islamic lands..
                              like united snakes have different states... it was kinda like that.. but my knowledge is also limited on it.. i m gonna do more research and give u more knowledge abt this topic..
                              thnkx for repliezz.
                              keep on sendin those.

                              [This message has been edited by dirty_dawg (edited March 31, 2002).]