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    Is it OK for Women to smoke in Public?

    Is smoking allowed in Islam for Women to smoke?
    I am asking because, apparetly Pak ambassador to US does!!

    >>But these are words that if you go to the region, they sound like such a huge understatement. You know, impasse?" says the ambassador, as she drags on a cigarette, Cartier Lights. "I mean, there's a huge military buildup." <<
    http://www.sptimes.com/2002/02/12/Wo...assy_jug.shtml

    Speedy replies, before moderates delete this thread are appreciated

    #2
    yeah.. provided she wears the shuttlecock burqa and no man can see the smoke or else they'd be excited by the thought of a female smoker.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Andhra:
      Is smoking allowed in Islam for Women to smoke?
      Is drinking allowed in Hinduism for women to drink in public?


      Muslims smoke in large numbers, both men and women, though for women, its considered a bit brash to do so, not only in public, but also in private. Hence you wont find many.
      Sames the case with drinking for hindus, where you will find lots of drinkers, male and female, yet while you will see an amitabh or some other goon drinking on indian media shows, you wont find heroines doing the same, even though they may do it behind the scenes.

      Now perhaps you will realize why you thought this thread to be so stupid yourself that you half expected the moderator to close it.

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        #4
        Andhra, as I mentioned to you in the other thread. Maleeha is not smoking now....she was smokin' when she was younger....age has definitely not been good for her.

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          #5
          andhra do they smoke cigars the other way in
          andhrapradesh? is it true? i heard that causes oral cancer.

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            #6
            rvikz,
            Yes, some people do, in the east coast districts of AP.

            >>Is drinking allowed in Hinduism for women to drink in public?<<

            Well, Hinduism doesn't tell you wheather to drink or not, how many times to pray, how to lock up women etc.,

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              #7
              Originally posted by Andhra:
              Well, Hinduism doesn't tell you wheather to drink or not, how many times to pray, how to lock up women etc.,
              Every religion has a set of guidelines for its followers. Every religion tells its followers what to do regarding different things. Its a different issue that you choose to ignore them.

              Brahmins pray regularly, dont they?

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                #8
                Not really.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Andhra:
                  >>Is drinking allowed in Hinduism for women to drink in public?<<

                  Well, Hinduism doesn't tell you wheather to drink or not, how many times to pray, how to lock up women etc.,
                  Ibrahim says LOL, man some Brahmin you are!


                  HINDU CLEANSING RITUAL FOR HAVING DRUNK ALCOHOL

                  pancagavya: milk, yogurt, butter, and the urine & excrement of a cow (the five cow-products meant for consumption in Hindu rituals).

                  The following is a very important Ayurvedic treatment including cow urine & liquid cow dung to purify Hindus who have drunk alcohol:

                  "A twice-born man so deluded that he has drunk liquor should drink boiling-hot liquor, and when his body has been scalded by it he is freed from that offence. Or he may drink boiling-hot cow's urine, water, milk, clarified butter, or liquid cow dung until he dies." -- Manusmrti 11:91-92.

                  Hungry for some more pancagavya? Here it is:

                  "For stealing raw or cooked food, a carriage, bed, or seat, flowers, roots, or fruits, the cleansing is swallowing the five cow-products (pancagavya)." -- Manusmrti 11:166.

                  Like many regulations in Manusmrti, a similar one is also found in Visnusmrti:

                  "(For stealing) sweetmeats, (rice or other) food, (milk or other) drinks, a bed, a seat, flowers, roots, or fruit, drinking pancagavya (is ordained as penance). (For stealing) grass, firewood, trees, rice in the husk, sugar, clothes, skins, or flesh, the thief must fast for three days." -- Visnusmrti 52:8-9.

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                    #10
                    Ibrahim, for your information, the only one following ManuSmriti is the long dead Manu
                    By the way don't quote Manu too much. The so-called 'Backward' Caste people get offended by his very name.
                    Not all his teachings are accepted. For example he was the one who said 'Women Do NOt Deserve Freedom!!!'.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Andhra:
                      Ibrahim, for your information, the only one following ManuSmriti is the long dead Manu

                      Ibrahim says any brahmin not following manu cannot be a brahmin but sudras are allowed to follw only the BG, so i guess you must be a sudra

                      For in hinduism


                      Classical Hinduism has three distinct strands, or paths. These paths are pursued during a succession of lives with a general goal for the individual to be released from their karmic existence. The three paths are named Karmamarga (the Way of Action), Jnanamarga (the Way of Knowledge) and Bhaktimarga (the Way of Devotion). Each Path, or Way, has a major book associated with it.

                      Karmamarga- The Manavadharmasastra, or the Laws of Manu, written between 200 BCE and 200 CE. The Laws of Manu are based on earlier Vedic and Hindu books, generally referred to as the Sutras, of which Manu's is the most important. The Sutras date back to about 600 BCE. The Laws of Manu lay out the Hindu caste system, describe the stages of life, and the rounds of life.

                      Jnanamarga - The Upanishads developed between 600 BCE and 200 BCE. The Upanishads lay out the secrete, esoteric knowledge of Hinduism.

                      Bhaktimarga - The Bhagavadgita ( BG)is mostly concerned with tendencies within Hinduism toward monotheism. It was written about 200 BCE.

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                        #12
                        Ibrahim, better concentrate on your religion and leave ours.

                        Hinduism has four paths and not three : Karma, Jnan, Bhakti and Raj.

                        BTW, heard you were on an expedition to dig out the original Arabic version of the Vedas from the desert sands and prove our Islamic roots. Any success on that ground?

                        P.S. Your interpretation of our paths and focus on Manu Samhita is simply rubbish.


                        [This message has been edited by Amitayus (edited February 13, 2002).]

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                          #13
                          Amitayus wrote: Hinduism has four paths and not three : Karma, Jnan, Bhakti and Raj.
                          Ibrahim says: LOL! Yes!! Do-it-Yourself DIY Hinduism practiced by people like you today, can have many paths but classical Hinduism only had three paths.

                          Now stop the nonsense and see if you can answer the questions you ran away from in the past after making a mockery of yourself, just like andhra in the past.

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                            #14
                            >>Ibrahim says any brahmin not following manu cannot be a brahmin but sudras are allowed to follw only the BG, so i guess you must be a sudra<<

                            Awesome!! Ibrahim you know who you are talking with?
                            My roots strectch all the way back to the coming of Aryans to India!!
                            If this interests you think about it. I belong to people who never surrendered their religion and bowed to the conqueror!!
                            So be careful before who you say is not a Brahmin!!
                            As for Manu, Yes I reject his teachings and I am a Brahmin!!
                            Infact if there is one thing Hindus of all Castes and regions and sex agree upon, it is that Manu is outdated.

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                              #15
                              andhra i understand why you dont want to follow manu


                              49. An initiated Brahmana should beg, beginning (his request with the word) lady (bhavati); a Kshatriya, placing (the word) lady in the middle, but a Vaisya, placing it at the end (of the formula).

                              50. Let him first beg food of his mother, or of his sister, or of his own maternal aunt, or of (some other) female who will not disgrace him (by a refusal).

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