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    Is Chatting wrong in Islam with Na mehram??

    salam all..
    i have this question.. plzz give me an honest answer.

    do u really think that this consider wrong in Islam.. talking to them on Voice is also wrong???

    and what ever we are doing here in gupshup like posting msges for na mehram ???

    i know our intentions are n't wrong but make male friends and this sort of stuffs.. i know we all doing same here.. but i just wanna confirm it.. if anyone not sure can u ask some religious ppls for me

    thanks

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    I was also worried about this so i also need help.

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      #3
      Walaiqum Asalam

      i also need help about this...

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        #4
        And I can assure you all that it really is wrong. You will soon be getting a lot of fatwas here. So keep your fingers crossed...like me : )

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          #5
          Originally posted by Scratch:
          And I can assure you all that it really is wrong. You will soon be getting a lot of fatwas here. So keep your fingers crossed...like me : )



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            #6
            i think open forum discussions like these r ok....
            as long as they r free from vulgar converstaions....

            chatting with na-mehram, like on icq and msn etc, is, in my view, wrong....
            and thats why i have stopped this practice....

            and i think others shud stay away from it as well....
            except if VERY NECESSARY....

            and definitely flirting etc on the net is HARAAM....
            Both Halal & Haram r evident but between them r doubtful things, most ppl have no knowledge about them. So whoever saves himself from suspicious things saves his religion & honor, & whoever indulges in suspicious things indulges in Haram.

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              #7
              Originally posted by armughal:

              and definitely flirting etc on the net is HARAAM....
              how do u do that?!

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                #8
                Question:


                There are now a large number of chat sites and there are many people who participate in them. What advice can you give to those who visit chat rooms, whether to read or to join in?

                Answer:

                Praise be to Allaah.

                Yes, there are indeed many chat rooms on the Internet, and many people who visit them. There follow some points of advice for those who read them and those who write on them.

                - Sincerity towards Allaah. Every person will die and what he writes during his lifetime will remain. So strive not to write anything except things that you will be pleased to see on the Day of Resurrection. There is no good in doing anything that is not intended to please Allaah.

                - The ordinary person who is not a specialist has to choose sites that are sound and useful, and avoid the sites of the followers of bid’ah and bad sites.

                - Boycott sites of the people of bid’ah and sites which mostly contain bid’ah, because participation and discussion are the lifeblood of these sites. It is not permissible to promote the people of bid’ah; we must cause their names to die out and strive to prevent them from becoming well known. The reaction of some of the Ahl al-Sunnah may have the opposite effect. It is not permissible for the ordinary Muslim to read the sites of the people of bid’ah with the motive of just looking or of discussing without knowledge. He should leave it to those who are qualified to deal with it. There is nothing wrong with his telling the scholars about what the innovators are saying, then transmitting the scholars’ response.

                - Reminding the owners of “mixed-up” sites (sites which indicate confusion between Sunnah and bid’ah) of Allaah and of the fact that it is not permissible for them to allow innovators or authors of false opinions to spread those views through their site.

                - The seekers of knowledge (students of sharee’ah) have to support their brothers who have taken on the task of refuting the people of bid’ah who rely on their large numbers; if one of them writes something, ten others applaud and praise him, and condemn the one whose view he is refuting.

                - It is important for shaykhs, writers and well-known people to take part in these groups.

                - It is not essential for the scholar to join in directly. That may take up too much of his time. It is sufficient for some of his trustworthy students to convey information from him.

                - Beware of wasting time. Many students have let these chat rooms take up too much of their time. It is not necessary to refute every single bleat and every single foolish notion. It is sufficient to note the advice of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “Part of a man's being a good Muslim is that he should leave alone that which does not concern him.”

                - Being aware of the importance of spending time in teaching the Muslims and that calling them to Allaah takes priority over refuting this one and that one. Let us leave these refutations for situations where it is essential, such as when one of the people of bid’ah stirs up doubts or says something false and no one else is refuting him – in that case someone has to refute him.

                - The person who enters chat rooms has to realize that he is dealing with a large number of unknown persons and that the margin of trust when dealing with people who are not using their real names is very thin indeed.

                - We advise the enthusiastic youth not to indulge in matters of which they do not have knowledge. Regarding the matter of giving fatwas without knowledge, it is sufficient for us to note the words of Allaah (interpretation of the meaning)

                “And on the Day of Resurrection you will see those who lied against Allaah (i.e. attributed to Him sons, partners) their faces will be black” [al-Zumar 39:60]

                - Adhere to the etiquette dictated by Islam and restrain the tongue (and the pen or writing is regarded as one of the two “tongues”). Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

                “And say to My slaves (i.e. the true believers of Islamic Monotheism) that they should (only) say those words that are the best. (Because) Shaytaan (Satan) verily, sows a state of conflict and disagreements among them. Surely, Shaytaan (Satan) is to man a plain enemy” [al-Israa’ 17:53]

                And Allaah is the Source of strength.

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                  #9
                  Any communication with a na mahram is prohibited, except where it is for learning and improving your deen or where it is essential for you to conduct your life, eg., with a shopkeeper to buy your requirements. However, hijab must be maintained and unneccessary communication must be avoided.

                  Another point that is important in this respect is that laghwiyat must be avoided as they are prohibited.

                  It follows that chatting uselessly, specially with members of the opposite sex is definitely out of question.

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                    #10
                    Guys... Talking to opposite sex isnt haram..
                    our Prophit (SAW) use to know, and talk to Hazrat Khatija before he married her..

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                      #11
                      our Prophit (SAW) use to know, and talk to Hazrat Khatija before he married her..
                      wasn't that before he became a Prophet?

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                        #12
                        [b]Any communication with a na mahram is prohibited, except where it is for learning and improving your deen or where it is essential for you to conduct your life, eg., with a shopkeeper to buy your requirements. However, hijab must be maintained and unneccessary communication must be avoided.
                        'Maulana' FactFinder, for your information the Taleban have been duly dispatched to hell. Where's the proof of thse 'fatwas' of yours.. or are we to blindly take everything you burp out?

                        It follows that chatting uselessly, specially with members of the opposite sex is definitely out of question.
                        follows from what?? what's your source?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
                          'Maulana' FactFinder, for your information the Taleban have been duly dispatched to hell. Where's the proof of thse 'fatwas' of yours.. or are we to blindly take everything you burp out?
                          Where anybody goes after death is knowledge that only Allah has. Your impressions are ill-founded and based on your warped thinking.

                          They fought for the sake of Allah and His deen. He will send them where they deserve, Insha Allah.

                          These are not my fatwas. They are based on the Qur'an which you profess to follow and the Sunnah, which you don't. Read the ayah on laghwiyat. And, read cvommentary by a scholar. Your interpretation will only misguide you. Trust me!

                          follows from what?? what's your source?
                          Read again and you may understand.


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                            #14
                            Scratch - yeah thats what i think.. ke its wrong...

                            armughal - right brother.. we really shoudn;t do that. but actually now we are addicted so its really hard to stop this practice.. but insahllah sooner i will try to do it.. Inshallah

                            wake_up_dead wud i think flirting is like we dun have any feelings for some (specially opposite sex) but we are pretending like we love u and we kinda miss u stuffs.. which can trun other person in to u.. and yes this is wrong..

                            alaabeena sister thanks alot for such a nice message u post.. really nice.. and where u says Every person will die and what he writes during his lifetime will
                            remain. So strive not to write anything except things that you will be pleased to see on the Day of Resurrection
                            umm and i am sure.. its good to practice islam but its more good and rewarding to preach other what islam says. thanks anyway..

                            FactFinder - Any communication with a na mahram is prohibited, except where it is for learning and improving your deen or where it is essential for you to conduct your life, eg., with a shopkeeper to buy your requirements. However, hijab must be maintained and unneccessary communication must be avoided.
                            well said brother..i totally agreed with u.. that we shouldn't do unneccessary conversation not just with na mehram.. we every whr.. cuz we will have to give answer in the day of judgement that how did we spend our lives here. and we all should care about Aaakhirat not this world.. cuz we are here for only 7- 8- yrs but then... think about it.. asal life wohin par start hogi..

                            btw wat is laghwiyat???

                            dirty_dawg - is tarah tu Allah chahte tu fastings prayers zakaht wagaira ki tarah tamaam muslims brother par beard bhi farz kardaite kyonke Hazoor SAWS ne rakhi thi laikin aisa tu nahi hua... aur there is a difference between haraam and wrong.. and i know talking to na mehram is wrong in islam but not haraaam.. and we are doingt his wrong thing.. even though our minds are clear we are not going to have any affirs with any one but still its wrong... if u talke this as an example ke if we eat pork or either drink alcholic bear its totally HARAAAM butt if we eat the meat which has been slaughter by christian or jews they are not halaal but not haraam either.. thats a difference..
                            plz no offense here...

                            PakistaniAbroad well u want proves then u better read Quran... Quran mein saaf saaf likha hia ke kisi women ki awaaz koi na mehram ko nahi sunna chayay its a sins..aap mano ya nahi it is in Quran.. and i think if we have communicaion with na mehram then affosourse its wrong cuz he will hear your voice and as far as chatting concerned well yeh bhi Quran mein hia ke fazool mein baat nahi karni chayay, time unnessary cheezoan mein waiste nahi karna chayay like chatting, music, tv and all those things which can only help us to increase our sins.. what kinda proves u want.. Quran jis zamane mein nazil hua tha os waqt na tu tv tha na hi music aur na koi chatting stuffs tu Quran mein kis tarah likha hota.. Quran aik mazhabi kitaab hai koi science ki ya social studies ki books nahi na auzu billah ke jis mein scince se related aik aik cheez ho my point is ke Quran mein clearly nahi likha ke TV music chatting ya having chat chat with na mehram is wrong laikin bohat se batain hain jis se yeh porves hosakta hia ke yeh sab cheezain ghalat hian Quran and Hadith/sunnah mil kar aik mukamal deen banta hia.. agar jo cheez aap ko Quran mein sure nahi then u better read hadiths aur wahan bhi nahi mila then brother go and ask any real religious person who practice islam every day i am sure they can answer our question in detail. plzz sorry if i sound againsts u..cuz i am just telling u what i think.

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                              #15
                              PP0077: I wish they were my words, but what I said was what a Imam posted on Islam Questions and Answers.
                              It's a good site, so check it out. www.islam-qa.com

                              Speak to you later.

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