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    Question on Islam!

    They say Quran has no mistakes or errors. If Allah is not male, why does Quran refer to Allah as "HE" in 1000s of locations?

    Is Quran wrong? or Is Allah, a male figure?

    There may be locations here and there where Quran may say Allah to be gender-less. But then why does it refer to allah as him/he.

    Last but not the least, why does the Quran never mentions Allah to be SHE?

    Please don't give me a convoluted story with 1000 paragraphs of text. Just a simple answer would suffice!

    #2
    Kumarakn, I am not that informed, but in Arabic, La denotes masculinity and usually every object is either a masculine or feminine, e.g., Camel is masculine (when mentioning as an object) while Date (like in palmtree) is feminine. A masculine prefix does not always mean (in Arabic) as a reference to one’s gender. Arabic is a very complex Semitic language, and Muslims believe that God has no gender. We just refer to God as He, merely following the Arabic traditions. But if someone wishes to refer to God as She, I don’t see any harm in that. Just a personal opinion.

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      #3
      When you say 'Quran refer to Allah as "HE" in 1000s of locations', you are referring to the english translations done by human beings and therefore these are not the words of Allah, per se. Quran was revealed in arabic. Read it in arabic and you will figure out the error of your argument.

      Good luck

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        #4
        [quote]Originally posted by kumarakn:
        They say Quran has no mistakes or errors. If Allah is not male, why does Quran refer to Allah as "HE" in 1000s of locations?[/quran]
        Quran has no mistakes is a fact. Your next statement does not support your assertion.

        If you want to know why, that is a different story altogether.

        Is Quran wrong? or Is Allah, a male figure?
        What are you trying to say? If it is a repitition of the previous para, the response is the same.

        There may be locations here and there where Quran may say Allah to be gender-less. But then why does it refer to allah as him/he.
        Again repetition of the same assertion which does not prove inaccuracies in the Quran.

        Last but not the least, why does the Quran never mentions Allah to be SHE?

        Please don't give me a convoluted story with 1000 paragraphs of text. Just a simple answer would suffice!
        Now for a staement on your obsessin. Take any legal text or book of scripture. Where the identity of the person addressed or refered to is not knownthe gender used is the male. Some times a statement is made that wherever male is mentioned, the female is included.

        Secondly, God/Allah/whatever you call the Creator does not have a gender. These are things applicable to you and me. It is not applicable to Him.

        I hope that clears your doubts.



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          #5
          Why does the word "mankind" refer to both men and women?



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            #6
            Common Sense..... man...



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              #7
              God is referred to as "He" in both the Bible and the Torah - has got nothing to do with the language being 'complicated'. The Quran boasts itself as "Easy & Simple" text to read & understand - Ask any literalists or fundamentalists.

              Btw - there are hadiths to substantiate that Allah made Adam in His image. Are hadiths complicated language too?

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                #8
                Originally posted by faceup:
                Btw - there are hadiths to substantiate that Allah made Adam in His image. Are hadiths complicated language too?

                Ibrahim says; Hey faceup, quote the hadith if you rae able to face up to yourself as decent human being in the mirror.

                At the same time READ!! before you make mokery of yourself. !

                In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

                1 Say: He is Allah the One and Only;
                2 Allah the Eternal Absolute; 6298
                3 He begetteth not nor is He begotten;
                4 And there is none like unto Him.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by faceup:
                  Btw - there are hadiths to substantiate that Allah made Adam in His image. Are hadiths complicated language too?
                  Evidence please.

                  Christianity says that Adam was made by God in His image. Islam does not.



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                    #10
                    Arabic is an easy language for thos who UNDERSTAND it....
                    people who make such comments like yours and those he say that Allah is MORE than ONE because Quran mentions in many places WE as the pronoun used by Allah, they r all just merely trying to make a point out of nothing cuz of their own lack of knowledge of the Arabic language....
                    had u know better about the Arabic language u wud not ask such baseless questions....

                    Allah has told us of people who put forward such silly arguments and its not a surprise u shud being it up now as well....

                    Surah 37 (As-Saffat) Verses 149-159

                    149-Now ask them their opinion: is it that thy Lord has daughters and they have sons?
                    150-Or that We created the angels female and they are witnesses (thereto)?
                    151-Is it not that they say from their own invention
                    152-"Allah has begotten children"? But they are liars!
                    153-Did He (then) choose daughters rather than sons?
                    154-What is the matter with you? How judge ye?
                    155-Will ye not then receive admonition?
                    156-Or have ye an authority manifest?
                    157-Then produce your writ, if ye are truthful.
                    158-And they have invented a blood-relationship between Him and the Jinns: but the Jinns know (quite well) that they have indeed to appear (before His judgment-seat)!
                    159-Glorified be Allah from that which they attribute (unto Him)!
                    Both Halal & Haram r evident but between them r doubtful things, most ppl have no knowledge about them. So whoever saves himself from suspicious things saves his religion & honor, & whoever indulges in suspicious things indulges in Haram.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by FactFinder:
                      Evidence please.
                      Christianity says that Adam was made by God in His image. Islam does not.
                      I suggest you refer to:
                      Allah has a face and is Limitless http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum13/HTML/004221.html

                      Originally posted by armughal:
                      people who make such comments like yours and those he say that Allah is MORE than ONE because Quran mentions in many places WE as the pronoun used by Allah, they r all just merely trying to make a point out of nothing cuz of their own lack of knowledge of the Arabic language....
                      had u know better about the Arabic language u wud not ask such baseless questions..
                      armughal,
                      For the above be enlightened and proceed to:
                      Allah has a face and is Limitless http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum13/HTML/004221.html

                      I am not the least bit surprised:
                      You all continue to tell Allah what He can be or What you all want Him to be. (naujabillah)


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                        #12

                        As known, the word “HU” in the original Quran al-Karim ((Surah Ikhlas ) is used to address Allah (SWT)
                        The word “HU” in Arabic denotes a “dimensional-beyond” in terms free of quantity and quality!
                        Consider now the meaning of “HU” as mentioned above and compare it with the meaning of the word “He,” which denotes the third person in the English language. Moreover, consider the conceptional confusion caused by the alteration of the meaning of the word “HU” into what people are used to understand from “He!”
                        How correct can the truth be approached if the “HU” is understood as a god with a sex while it is intended to mean the “point of ONENESS of universal dimensions?”
                        How can an understanding of a “male god” recognized as the concrete behind the abstract, match with what is in reality free form being described with the attributions of limitlessness and infinity even?
                        What's more, this should particularly be understood that…
                        The universe known as infinite to us is an aspect only “<” made of a single “pin-point” (nokta) in a single “moment” (an)!
                        It is only an aspect “<” made up from a single “point” in the plane of infinity.
                        Everything that we refer with the terms “universe” and “universes within the universe” takes part in such an aspect -"<"- only.
                        Everything that takes part in that aspect “<” and a “pin-point” itself where they all dwell in, is “HU’s” creating in a single moment only within “HU’s moments”.
                        We are in just in a “universe” out of universes, that are created from a single “point” in only one single “moment” within countless “points” of countless “moments.”
                        What is known as “Insan-i Qamil” (Universal Consciousness) or as “Haqiqat-i Mohammedi” is a being made of such a single “pin-point”!
                        “POINT,” however, is nothing more than a “witticism” (nukte)!
                        “HU” is a “wit” at the sight of “points,” while it is the Creator (khaliq) of countless “points”!
                        “HU” brings to existence all that was created from a “point” within HU's knowledge (ilm), with a stuff of illusion!
                        “HU” also denotes Who is “GANI” (transcendent) from all that was mentioned...
                        This is the truth (haqiqat) denoted by the noun “HU” that Muslims are required to realize?
                        Besides is the idea of a male-god denoted through the noun “He” in the translations of the Quran, in which the meaning of the noun “HU” is converted into “He.”
                        It is extremely difficult for people to understand the Deen-i Islam through Quran translations that seems to refer to a god-afar-off.
                        If we desire to understand the Deen-i Islam and confirm consciously, we must first of all grasp the meanings that are specified through such words. Secondly we should try to learn Arabic.


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