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    The Mahdi

    I wasn't very sure of where to put this, here or World Affairs Forum, but anyway...

    I was listening to a recent audio, someone sermonising about the Sept. 11 Attacks, etc, and inevitably, as is usual in Muslim commentaries of World Affairs, the topic of Mahdi came up and how he is going to defend the Muslim World and establsih peace on Earth. It does tend to become rather evangelical...

    My understanding of the Mahdi, i.e. The Saviour is that this "thought" is not limited to Islam and Muslims, but is Universal...Avatar Krishna, Buddha, a Savious from the Israelites, etc etc. So in each and every religion there has always been hope, that someday someplace a Saviour will come to establish peace and justice on the Earth.

    It is said Islam is the only religion that provides "signs" for the appearance of the Saviour, thus turning a distant hope into "foreseeable" reality.

    Any "concrete" signs / conditions of appearance? What do you people think about the Mahdi / Who is he? Think the "Time" is soon? All comments appreciated.

    I'm still looking into this...

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    Oh, an interesting "alternative link I found for the non - traditionalist, the non - religious. What do you think hmm?
    http://www.shareintl.org/

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      #3
      The following has been taken from a thread posted by the brother 'Abdulla' 2 years ago. May Allaah - subhaan wa ta'aala - reward him with goodness.

      &peace
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      Al-Mahdi will be an ordinary man, born to an ordinary women raised by ordinary men and living an ordinary life with the people of his time.

      Al-Mahdi will be an Imam and a Caliph, among other Caliphs who rule Muslims with justice. However, what differentiates Al-Mahdi from other Caliphs is that he will meet Jesus son of Mary sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam.

      Also, Jesus, the Prophet of Allah, will pray behind Al-Mahdi. Allah will give Al-Mahdi the ability to righteously rule the Muslim nation in the span of a night. He will fill the earth with justice, as it was filled with injustice. He will lead the Muslim nation to the second conquering of Constantinople and possibly Rome.

      A Caliphate That Follows the Guidance of the Prophet sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam

      The Prophet Muhammad sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam mentioned that just before the end of this world, the Muslim nation will be ruled by a Caliphate that will follow the guidance sent with the Messenger of Allah sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam.

      Hudhaifah bin Al-Yaman reported that the Messenger of Allah sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam said,

      "Prophethood (meaning himself) will remain with you for as long as Allah wills it to remain, then Allah will raise it up wherever he wills to raise it up. Afterwards, there will be a Caliphate that follows the guidance of Prophethood remaining with you for as long as Allah wills it to remain. Then, He will raise it up whenever He wills to raise it up. Afterwards, there will be a reign of violently oppressive [The reign of Muslim kings who are partially unjust] rule and it will remain with you for as long as Allah wills it to remain. Then, there will be a reign of tyrannical rule and it will remain for as long as Allah wills it to remain. Then, Allah will raise it up whenever He wills to raise it up. Then, there will be a Caliphate that follows the guidance of Prophethood."

      Then Hudhaifah said, "The Prophet stopped speaking." [As-Silsilah As-Sahihah, vol. 1, no. 5]

      The reason behind mentioning this Hadith here is to state that Al-Mahdi will live in the last period of rightly guided Caliphs that the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam mentioned himself sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam.

      In this Hadith, the Messenger of Allah divided the history of the Muslim nation into the following stages:

      1. The reign of the Prophet Muhammad

      2. A Caliphate that rules according to the guidance revealed to the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam This period is called the reign of the rightly guided Caliphs, starting with Abu Bakr, then Umar, then Uthman and ending with the murder of Ali bin Abi Talib, may Allah be pleased withthem all. Some scholars included the short reign of Al-Hasan bin Ali, the grandson of the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam These are the thirty years which the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam stated comprised the reign of the rightly guided Caliphs [The Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam said? "The Caliphate will remain in my nation after me for thirty years. Then, it will be a monarchy after that." Ahmad, Tirmidhi and others, Sahih Al-Jami` ' As-Saghir no. 3341].

      3. The reign of unjust rule. This reign contains some injustice to a varying degree between one king and another. This period started after Al-Hasan bin Ali and includes the Umayyad, Abbasid, Mamluks and until the fall of the Ottoman State in the twentieth century.

      This period includes all states that ruled in the Muslim World during those centuries. However, we exclude the reign of those rulers whose rule was similar to the rule of the rightly guided Caliphs, such as the reign of Abdullah bin Az-Zubayr and Umar bin Abdul-Aziz. These two are considered among the just Caliphs from among the tribe of Quraish who ruled or will rule the Muslim nation.

      4. The reign of the tyrannical rule. This period started in the end of the Ottoman state and continues. We ask Allah that He saves us from the evils of this period and that we witness its end soon.

      This reign includes all the regimes that ruled the Muslim World, whether imperial, party oriented, governments controlled by the disbelievers, like those after World War I, populist or republic, which all sought to deprive Allah from His right as the Only Legislator in all matters of life and religion.

      When the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam mentioned the periods that this nation will experience, he categorized them according to the type of government, whether unjust, or that which follows the guidance of the Prophet, or autocratic and tyrannical, as we experience today.

      5. The return of a Caliphate that rules following the guidance of the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam This period requires the Muslims to be prepared and strive for its imminent coming, by spreading the knowledge of the Book and the Sunnah and the way of our righteous ancestors, As-Salaf As-Salih. This is because nothing can resurrect this nation except that which resurrected its ancestors. Until this final period comes, the religion will become a stranger, the same way it started in Makkah, a stranger to its masters and slaves, the powerful and the weak, its women, and its children.

      Those who will strive to establish this righteous period are those ghurabaa strangers as the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam called them, who will carry this religion with knowledge, sound comprehension and determination. They will willingly sacrifice their well-being, face hardships, and persecution, with patience and steadfastness. They will follow the advice of the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam when he said,

      "Therefore, hold fast to my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the rightly guided Caliphs, hold it between your front teeth! And beware of innovations (in the religion), for every innovation is a bid'ah, and every bid'ah is a deviation, and every deviation is in the Fire." [Sahih Al-Jami ' As-Saghir, no. 2549]

      The ghurabaa are the ones who, by the will of Allah, will correct that which people have altered and changed of the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam after his departure from this earthly life. They will fight in the sake of Allah and dominate those who oppose them. They will be unrelenting even in the face of those who abandon or defy them, until Allah brings about His Decree (the Hour), while they are steadfast on this path.

      We ask Allah, the Praised and Ever-High One, that He grants us steadfastness on the path of His Messenger sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam and the path taken by the companions and those who followed theirlead until the Day of Judgment.

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      "No leaf falls except that He knows of it, and no rain drop forms except that he has willed it."

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        #4
        Sunni Documantation on Imam Mahdi (AS)

        There are six authentic collections of traditions based on the Sunni standards for verifying the authenticity of a tradition. These six books are: Sahih al-Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, Sahih al-Tirmidhi, Sunan Ibn Majah, Sunan Abu Dawud, and Sahih al-Nisa'i. I


        1. Mahdi is going to come in the last days to make a universal Government,
        2. Mahdi is from the Ahlul-Bayt of Prophet,
        3. Mahdi is from the children of Fatimah (AS), the daughter of Prophet,
        4. Mahdi is different than Jesus (the messiah),
        5. Jesus will be one of the followers of Imam Mahdi and prays behind him.

        The following are only some of the traditions out of many, about Imam Mahdi, and are ALL traditions that the Sunnis admit to their authenticity and existence:

        The Prophet (PBUH) said: "Even if the entire duration of the world's
        existence has already been exhausted and only one day is left before
        Doomsday (Day of judgment), Allah will expand that day to such a
        length of time, as to accommodate the kingdom of a person out of my
        Ahlul-Bayt who will be called by my name. He will then fill out the
        earth with peace and justice as it will have been full of injustice
        and tyranny before then."

        Sunni References:

        1. Sahih Tirmidhi, V2, P86, V9, PP 74-75
        2. Sanan Abi Dawud, V2, P7
        3. Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, V1, P376 & V3, P63
        4. Mustadrak al-Sahihain, by al-Hakim, V4, P557
        5. Al-Majma', by Tabarani, P217
        6. Tahdhib al-Thabit, by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, V9, P144
        7. Sawaiq al-Muhraqa, Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, P167
        8. Fathul Bari, by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, V7, P305
        9. al-Tathkirah, by al-Qurtubi, P617
        10. al-Hawi, by al-Suyuti, V2, pp165-166
        11. Sharh al-Mawahib al-Ladunniyyah, by al-Zurqani, V5, P348
        12. Fathul Mughith, by al-Sakhawi, V3, P41
        13. al-Hafidh Abul-Hasan Muhammad Ibn al-Husayn al-Sijistani al-Aburi
        14. al-Shafi'i (d. 363/974). (who said the above hadith is related by
        numerous authorities and were spread far and wide by many narrators).
        and also in the works of Ibn Habban, Abu Nua'ym, Ibn Asakir, etc.

        Also:

        The Prophet (PBUH) said: "Al-Mahdi is one of us, the members of the
        household (Ahlul-Bayt)."

        Sunni reference: Sunan Ibn Majah, V2, Tradition #4085

        As we see Imam Mahdi is from the Ahlul Bayt of Prophet Muhammad, so he can not be Jesus (the Messiah; al-Maseeh). Mahdi and Messiah are two different personalities but they come at the same time, Mahdi as Imam and Jesus as his follower. The following tradition clearly mentions that Imam Mahdi is one of the children of the daughter of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH&HF):

        The Messenger of Allah said: "Al-Mahdi is one of the children of
        Fatimah (the Prophet's daughter)."

        Sunni reference: Sunan Ibn Majah, V2, Tradition #4086

        Also:

        The Prophet (PBUH) said: "We the children of Abd Al-Mutalib are the
        Masters of the inhabitants of Heaven: Myself, Hamza (RA), Ali (AS),
        Jafar (RA), Hasan (AS), Hussain (AS), and Al-Mahdi (AS)."

        Sunni reference: Sunan Ibn Majah, V2, Tradition #4087

        The Prophet (PBUH) said: "We (I and my family) are members of a
        household that Allah (SWT) has chosen for them the life of the
        Hereafter over the life of this world; and the members of my household
        (Ahlul-Bayt) shall suffer a great affliction and they shall be
        forcefully expelled from their homes after my death; then there will
        come people from the East carrying black flags, and they will ask for
        some good to be given to them, but they shall be refused service; as
        such, they will wage war and emerge victorious, and will be offered
        that which they desired in the first place, but they will refuse to
        accept it, until a man from my family (Ahlul-Bayt) appears to fill the
        Earth with justice as it has been filled with corruption. So whoever
        reachs that (time) aught to come to them even if crowling on the
        ice/snow."

        Sunni ref: Sunan Ibn Majah, V2, Tradition #4082, also in the History Tabari

        The Messenger of Allah said: "The world will not perish until a man
        among the Arabs appears whose name matches my name."

        Sunni reference: Sahih Tirmidhi, V9, P74

        Also:

        The Messenger of Allah said: "Mahdi from my family will bring about
        a revolution and will fill the world with justice and equity before
        which it was filled up with injustuce and inequity."

        Sunni references:

        1. Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, V1, P84
        2. Jami'us Sagheer, by al-Suyuti, PP 2,160
        3. al-Urful Vardi, by al-Suyuti, P2
        4. Kanzul Ummal, V7 P186
        5. Aqd al-Durar Fi Akhbaar al-Mahdi al-Muntazir, V12, Chapter 1,
        6. al-Bayan fi Akhbar Sahib al-Zaman, By Ganji Shafi'i, Chapter 12
        7. al-Fusool al-Muhimmah, by Ibn Sabbagh Maliki, Chapter 12
        8. Arjahul Matalib, by Ubaidallah Hindi hanafi, P380
        9. Muqaddimah, by Ibn Khaldoon, P266


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          #5
          Mashalla.

          Imam Mahdi (as) was born in the household of the 11th imam, imam Hasan Asgkarali (as).

          He is currently in ghaib, and will re-appear at a time known to Allah (swt) alone.

          We await the coming of our Imam Zaman (as) and pray that we are counted amongst his followers.

          Wal Humdo Lillah hai Rabil Al Ameen.

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            #6
            We sunnis do not reject the idea of Imam Mahdi and his coming, Inshallah he will.

            But problem is that shias believe he was born like 1300 years ago and is still alive. According to our authentic ahadeeths he will be born, there is no mention of him being in ghaib and in hiding while his follwers and brothers suffer.

            A1shah, do you know where he is at the moment, what country/region/area/continent? Iran? Iraq? Saudia Arabia(oh no it can't be Saudia Arabia because "wahabis" live there...) caves of Afghanistan? Where does he get his food and other things needed to sustain life here on earth? If you say from Allah, then prove it from Quraan. Please don't post long quotes from al-kafi or other shia 'book.' Thank You.



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              #7
              Respected Brother/ Sister in Islam

              Assallamu Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakaatuhu
              http://www.jamiat.org.za/story_of_imam_mahdi.htm

              THE STORY OF IMAM MAHDI

              Among the major signs of Qiyaamat is the advent of Imam Mahdi (Alayhis salaam). Rasulullah (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) predicted the coming of Imam Mahdi towards the end of this worldly existence, i.e. just before The Day of Judgement.

              Hazrat Abu Hurairah (radiyallahu anhu) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said:

              "If only one day is left for the end of the world, Allah will lengthen that day until a man from my family, whose name will be the same as mine, rules the world. (Tirmizi Shareef)

              This indicates the emphasis, which The Holy Messenger of Allah Sallallahu alayhi wasallam laid on the coming of Imam Mahdi.

              This booklet contains all the details about the life and advent of Imam Mahdi, and all these facts are derived from authentic Ahadith on this topic.

              There is much speculation nowadays on whether Imam Mahdi has already been born and if so, what would be his present age, and when the impending appearance. Some Ulama have claimed that he is already born.

              However, Muslims should realise that mere speculation does not represent concrete evidence upon which any firm and clear-cut ruling could be based. Hence, the best course of action is to believe that Imam Mahdi will appear' before Qiyaamat, but exactly when, only Allah knows. The date and time of his arrival we leave to The Knowledge of Allah. However, Rasulullah (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) did give certain signs, which will herald the arrival of this great Imam. The Ahadith on this issue leave no room for rejecting or even doubting the coming of Imam Mahdi. Neither do the facts leave us in the dark as to recognising this great Imam when he eventually does arrive.



              DETAILS OF IMAM MAHDI

              The following are facts taken from the Ahadith of Rasulullah( Sallallahu alayhi wasallam):

              Name and Title

              His name will be the same as that of (Rasulullah Sallallahu alayhi wasallam), i.e. Muhammad. In addition, his father's name will be Abdullah. His title is Al-Mahdi, meaning the guided one. The Holy Prophet Sallallahu alayhi wasallam also called him Khaleefatullah, meaning "the Deputy of Allah".

              FAMILY LINEAGE

              Imam Mahdi will belong to the tribe of Quraish and the family of Hazrat Fatima (radiyallahu anha), the offspring of Hazrat Imam Hasan (radiyallahu anhu).

              CHARACTER

              He will have the character and morals of Rasulullah (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam). In one night Allah will grant him unique qualities of faith, piety, leadership and knowledge. Hence the title Mahdi.

              BIRTHPLACE
              He will be born in Madinah Shareef.

              PHYSICAL FEATURES
              He will have a broad forehead (with not much hair on the front of his head) and the bridge of his nose will be raised.


              SIGNS BEFORE HIS APPEARANCE AS THE MAHDI

              The world will be filled with a great amount of injustice and oppression. There will be widespread evil in which all people will be heavily involved.

              Muslim countries and their people will have become so weak that even animals would defeat them in battle.

              Muslims would be totally disunited, hence their state of weakness. On the other hand, the Kuffaar (Jews and Christians) of the whole world would be united under one leader. Their rule would spread over the entire world, and would reach as far as Khaibar, a mere hundred miles from Madinah Shareef. Such would be the dominance of kuffaar during that era.

              The Muslims would also be under severe persecution and oppression from the Khaleefah of that time and they will have no place to run.

              The Ahle Bait (Family of Nabi Muhammad Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) will experience difficulties and persecution.

              Throughout the world earthquakes would occur frequently. Innocent people will be put to death. A man by the name of Haarith Harraath will emerge from beyond the Euphrates river, and before him will be another by the name of Mansoor. The former (i.e. Haarith) will be preparing the minds of Muslims to-accept Imam Mahdi when he comes. He will perform the same task for Imam Mahdi, what the Quraish performed for Rasulullah (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) in Madinah before Hijrat. Mansoor will aid him in this direction.

              It is wajib upon every Muslim to help this Haarith, or to respond to his call.

              The Abdaals and pious leaders will all be on the lookout for Imam Mahdi, knowing that only he could bring relief to the failing Ummat.

              There will be a fight in Makkah between three people, each one being the son of a Khaleefah, over leadership of the Muslims. However, none of them will gain the Khilafat. This fight will take place in the month of Zul-Qa'dah, and even in Mina during Hajj, there will be quarrelling. All this will occur in the same year as Imam Mahdi's election.

              An army will come from the East towards Arabia. The East here refers to Khurasan, i.e. northeastern Iran, which includes the borders of the Soviet Union and Afghanistan. They will pave the way for the establishment of Imam Mahdi's kingdom. This army will carry black banners. Nothing shall stop their onward march, and eventually they will plant their flag on the soils of Jerusalem.

              This army will seek the leadership of Arabia. The current leader will refuse to hand over the Khilafat.

              A tremendously fierce battle will ensue, the likes of which Muslims had never yet experienced. The army from Khurasan will be victorious and will eventually be granted the leadership.

              IMAM MAHDI'S EMERGENCE AS THE NEW KHALEEFA

              Having gained the right to appoint the new Khaleefah, they will nominate a member of their army, a man from The Holy Prophet's family, for this position. This man will be The Mahdi, who had also joined the ranks of this army when they entered Arabia.

              He will not accept this post and will fleet from Madinah Munawwarah to Makkah Mukarramah. However, his people will be convinced that this is the only man for, the job. And so consequently, a group of people from Makkah will look for him in The Holy City and find him making tawaaf. They will force him to accept the post of Khilafat. Imam Mahdi will reluctantly agree to this offer. They will actually lead him by the hand towards the Hajare Aswad, where people will then formally pledge their allegiance to him as the Khaleefah. This pledge will take place in front of The Holy Ka 'ba, between the Hajare Aswad and the Maqaame Ibraheem, during or just after the days of Hajj.

              At the time of this Bay 'at a voice will call out from the heavens: This is the appointed Khaleefah of Allah, the Mahdi!

              Initially the number of people to take the bay 'at pledge of allegiance at his hands will be 313, which is the number of Sahaba that took part in the battle of Badr. He will be forty years old at the time of his appointment.

              PROTECTION AND ACCEPTANCE BY ALLAH

              Immediately upon his appointment as the new Khaleefah Imam Mahdi will witness the direct Help of Allah. A man from the heart of Damascus, known as Sufyaani (from the family of Abu Sufyaan) will begin a horrendous campaign of bloodshed and killing, during which no tribe or community will be left alone. Even women and children will be mercilessly butchered. His chief supporters and followers will be the tribe of Kalb.

              When this Sufyaani hears of Imam Mahdi, he will immediately dispatch an army towards Makkah (where the Mahdi will be). This army will be easily defeated by the Imam and his handful of followers. Then this Sufyaani will himself lead a contingent from Syria towards Makkah to fight against Imam Mahdi.

              This army will be destroyed by an enormous earthquake at Baidaa, a place just after Zhul-Hulaifa, on the way to Makkah. First the rear of the army will be devastated, and when those in front go back to see what had happened, they too will meet the same fate. All but one member of this army will perish, and this sole survivor will take back the news of this disaster. There will be many in this army who had been brought along by force, people who did not intend to oppose Imam Mahdi. Such people would also be destroyed along with the others, but on Qiyaamat they will be raised up according to their intentions. When the story of Divine Help being granted to Imam Mahdi spreads through the Muslim world, the Abdaals of Syria and the pious people of Iraq will come to pledge allegiance to Imam Mahdi and join his ranks.

              Similarly, other Muslim armies from Madinah and elsewhere will also come to Makkah and offer their support and allegiance to Imam Mahdi.

              A man from the Quraish tribe will then emerge and oppose the Imam. This man also will have the backing of the tribe of Kalb. He too will send an army against Imam Mahdi, who will yet again, through The Grace of Allah, inflict heavy defeat on his enemies.

              The Prophet of Allah actually castigated those who do not participate in this battle against the Kalb. The inhabitants of the heavens and the inhabitants of the earth will be pleased with him.

              It will be wajib upon all Muslims who hear of Imam Mahdi to pledge their allegiance and full support to him.

              HIS LEADERSHIP, BATTLES AND ACHIEVEMENTS

              With his army now bolstered by saintly and pious people Imam Mahdi will defeat his enemies, as we have seen in the initial battles mentioned above.

              He will become the supreme leader and reformer of the Muslim Ummat.

              There will be a great Islamic revival, and this Deen will reign supreme. He will fill the world with justice after it had been plagued with oppression.

              He will practice and lead people according to the Sunnat of Nabi Muhammad (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam).

              He will rule for seven to nine years, with complete justice and righteousness, and all this time Islam will be the predominant religion of the world. .

              During his rule, the Muslims will experience great economic enrichment. There will be no droughts and lands will be exceptionally fertile. The earth will yield crops in abundance and of the best quality. This rich agricultural state will ensure a glut of money and food. In fact, so much that people who come to the Baitul-Maal for assistance will be given as much as they can take away.

              In short the Muslims will live a most luxurious and comfortable life, something they will never ever experience again in this world.

              Imam Mahdi will distribute lands equally among people. Muslims will live in great harmony with each other. Gone will be the days of in fighting, strife and disunity.

              The hearts of people will become so independent of wealth and so dependent on Allah that when an announcement is made for the needy to come forward, only one person will stand up. When this person will be given wealth in such abundance, he will feel ashamed and would want to return the wealth, but the answer will be: "We do not take back what has been given. It's all yours to keep."

              Jerusalem will also be captured by Muslims (as stated earlier under "signs before his appearance").

              Imam Mahdi will conquer the city of Constantinople (presently known as Istanbul). The story behind this conquest is as follows:

              After the earthquakes, which destroyed his enemies, and the subsequent amassing of Muslim armies under his leadership, the Imam will leave Makkah for Madinah, where he will offer salaam at the Rowzha Mubarak (The Grave of Rasulullah Sallallahu alayhi wasallam).

              Having done this his next step would be to proceed on to Damascus, where the bulk of the Nasaara (Christian) forces would be deployed.

              In Damascus, the Imam will set up his headquarters. From here, he will conduct military operations against the enemies of Islam, and from here, he will rule.

              At a place known as either A 'maaq or Daabiq, somewhere near Allepo Syria, 960,000 Christian forces would be assembled under 80 banners, quite clearly to annihilate the Muslims.

              Imam Mahdi will send a battalion of Muslim fighters, from among the best people on earth, to engage them. When the two groups encounter each other face to face, the Romans will request that the Muslims hand over to them those who had fought and captured their Roman brethren. The Muslims will refuse, saying: We will never hand over our Muslim brothers thus triggering off a fierce battle. A third of the Muslim army will flee, and Allah will never ever grant them towba (repentance). A third will be slain, and they will be the noblest martyrs in The Sight of Allah. The surviving third will be victorious, never to suffer defeat thereafter.

              This battle will last four days. Each day the Muslim troops will resolve on oath that they will not return but as victors. For three days, they will fail to crush the enemy, with many men becoming martyrs. On the fourth day, the Christians will falter and succumb to a tremendous onslaught from the remaining Muslim troops. The ensuing slaughter will be unprecedented in history. This decimation will utterly shatter the morale of the Christians.

              Thus, Imam Mahdi will smash the might of the non-Muslims forces in that period, forces which had come together from all parts of the world.

              Pressing forward, the next destination will be Turkey. From the Syrian coast, Imam Mahdi will dispatch seventy thousand soldiers of the Banu Ishaq tribe to conquer Constantinople. They will cross the Mediterranean Sea, bound for Turkey and will conquer Istanbul without the use of a single weapon. Parts of the city will collapse upon the Takbeer and Tahleel of these warriors. They will recite' Laa ilaha ilial-laahu wallahu Akbar' and simply walk over the city. The Muazhzhins of the Muslims will then establish the five times daily azhaan throughout the city.

              This will occur about six years after Imam Mahdi had come to power.

              Imam Mahdi will also arrive at Constantinople and set up the structure for his rule, appoint people to govern there and most importantly, make arrangements for the implementation of Islamic law.

              This conquest will deliver untold fortunes into the hands of the Muslims. As he and his men busy, themselves capturing and rounding up these vast riches a rumour will spread that "the Dajjaal has broken loose in Syria and is wreaking havoc among your families. This news will be very disturbing to the Imam, and so consequently, he will hurriedly leave for Syria. In the meantime, ten men will be sent ahead to ascertain the truth. About these ten The Holy Prophet (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said: I know their names and the names of their fathers they will be among the best warriors in that era. Nabi e Kareem (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) even knew the colour of their horses.

              One of them will report that the whole story is false. Dajjaal has not yet emerged. This was a lie fabricated by Shaitaan to try and disrupt the progress of the Muslims. Imam Mahdi will resume his return journey to Syria with greater ease and comfort once he learns that Dajjaal is not yet loose.

              He will stop over in all the towns and cities along the route to survey the situation and make necessary arrangements for government.

              Meanwhile the conquerors of Istanbul will march on and invade parts of Western Europe (Greece, Italy, etc.) in the same manner, with the Takbeer and Kalimah. All this area will fall under the rule of Imam Mahdi.

              A few weeks after Imam Mahdi reaches Damascus the great imposter, Dajjaal will now truly emerge and begin his campaign of mischief and corruption.

              Since the Dajjaal will have a large following of mainly Jews and illegitimate people (those born out of marriage), the Muslims under Imam Mahdi will resume preparations for war. They will be busy arranging the formation of their troops during the time of Fajr. The jamaat salaah will be almost about to start when suddenly Sayyidina Eesa (Alayhis salaam) will descend from the heavens and join the ranks of Muslims for salaah. He will lead the Fajr salaah.

              After the slaying of Dajjaal by Nabi Eesa, Imam Mahdi will not live for very long. A few months will elapse and this great Imam, a man who provided the perfect sequel to Allah's Supreme Religion -ISLAM, will pass on to the realms of the hereafter. The Muslims will perform his Janaaza salaah and bury him. The Holy Prophet (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) warned that there would be no better in life after Imam Mahdi.
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              All the above happenings are taken from the authentic Ahadith of Rasulullah( Sallallahu alayhi wasallam). Therefore, the fulfillment of these prophecies will leave absolutely no doubt in the, minds of even the most ardent critics or sceptics, as to the veracity and truthfulness of Our Noble Prophet (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam).

              THE SHIAS FALSE BELIEFS

              The facts mentioned thus far totally refute the false beliefs of the Shia sect regarding Imam Mahdi. In the book Tuhfaa lthnaa Ashriyya written by Hazrat Shah Abdul Azeez Dahlwi (Rahmatullaahi alayhi) the Shia beliefs concerning Imam Mahdi are recorded as follows:

              · The Shias believe in twelve Imams, the first being Hazrat Ali (radhiyallahu anhu) and the last being Imam Mahdi.
              · When Imam Mahdi was a child, he fled from his enemies and went to hide in a cave in the city of Samarra, Iraq. He is still hiding in that cave till this very day.
              · He will emerge from that cave a thousand years after entering it, with a sword in his hand to slay his enemies. This will be before Qiyaamat. This means that the Mahdi, which they are awaiting, will be over a thousand years old!
              · His name will be Muhammad bin Hasan Askari.
              · Their Mahdi is invincible, so none has the power to kill him.
              · For centuries now the Shias make regular dua to Allah to bring out their Mahdi.

              The above are beliefs that followers of the Shia religion maintain. Compare this to what we have read from the authentic Ahadith of Rasulullah (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) and you will quickly see the falsehood and deception in the Shia beliefs. Their Mahdi does not exist, except as a figment of their imagination. It is one big myth, which vehemently conflicts with the true teachings of Islam.

              May Allah save all Muslims from such un-Islamic and false beliefs, and grant us all the correct understanding of Imam Mahdi's coming, Ameen.

              Was Salaam

              Jamiatul Ulama (KZN)

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                #8
                Originally posted by Spanky:
                We sunnis do not reject the idea of Imam Mahdi and his coming, Inshallah he will.

                But problem is that shias believe he was born like 1300 years ago and is still alive. According to our authentic ahadeeths he will be born, there is no mention of him being in ghaib and in hiding while his follwers and brothers suffer.

                A1shah, do you know where he is at the moment, what country/region/area/continent? Iran? Iraq? Saudia Arabia(oh no it can't be Saudia Arabia because "wahabis" live there...) caves of Afghanistan? Where does he get his food and other things needed to sustain life here on earth? If you say from Allah, then prove it from Quraan. Please don't post long quotes from al-kafi or other shia 'book.' Thank You.

                Spanky,

                Seems to me that your questions would be equally relevant to Hazrat Essa (as) (Jesus), who is alive, and in the presence of the Almighty (swt).

                Or is it that you do not believe in his second coming either ?

                If Imam Mahdi (as) was borm 1300 years ago, Jesus (as) was born 2000 years ago.

                I find it hard to believe that you think Allah (swt), in His Might and Majesty, would have trouble sustaining Imam Mahdi and Jesus (as) for these number of years.

                The awaited Mahdi (as) is not in any cave but in the presence of his Lord (swt), awaiting instructions from Allah (swt) for his appreance from Ghaib.

                Suffice it is to know that your sahih books confirm the leadership of 12 imams, the last of which is Imam Mahdi (as).

                Just as the sun illuminates the world on a cloudy day (when the sun can't be seen), so does Imam Mahdi (as) guide the ummat of our holy apostle (pbuh) from his Ghaib.

                ws

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                  #9
                  Posted by Ibrahim:

                  THE SHIAS FALSE BELIEFS

                  The facts mentioned thus far totally refute the false beliefs of the Shia sect regarding Imam Mahdi. In the book Tuhfaa lthnaa Ashriyya written by Hazrat Shah Abdul Azeez Dahlwi (Rahmatullaahi alayhi) the Shia beliefs concerning Imam Mahdi are recorded as follows:

                  · The Shias believe in twelve Imams, the first being Hazrat Ali (radhiyallahu anhu) and the last being Imam Mahdi.
                  · When Imam Mahdi was a child, he fled from his enemies and went to hide in a cave in the city of Samarra, Iraq. He is still hiding in that cave till this very day.
                  · He will emerge from that cave a thousand years after entering it, with a sword in his hand to slay his enemies. This will be before Qiyaamat. This means that the Mahdi, which they are awaiting, will be over a thousand years old!
                  · His name will be Muhammad bin Hasan Askari.
                  · Their Mahdi is invincible, so none has the power to kill him.
                  · For centuries now the Shias make regular dua to Allah to bring out their Mahdi.

                  The above are beliefs that followers of the Shia religion maintain. Compare this to what we have read from the authentic Ahadith of Rasulullah (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) and you will quickly see the falsehood and deception in the Shia beliefs. Their Mahdi does not exist, except as a figment of their imagination. It is one big myth, which vehemently conflicts with the true teachings of Islam.

                  May Allah save all Muslims from such un-Islamic and false beliefs, and grant us all the correct understanding of Imam Mahdi's coming, Ameen.

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                  Ibrahim;

                  Please explain to us how the facts you mentioned thus far totally refute shia beliefs (YOUR WORDS)?

                  If you consider shia beliefs as fiction, the sunni version can very easily be deemed fictitious as well by a neutral party.

                  Your belief in Imam Mahdi (as) comes to you from your so-called scholars, while our information is derived from the progeny of the holy prophet (pbuh), imam mahdi (as) being part of the ahl-bait.

                  Where Imam Mahdi (as) is in Ghaib is inconsequential, as is the fact where Jesus (as) is in his Ghaib.

                  It is a fact that Allah (swt) hid the holy imam (as) from the tyranny of the Abbassid empire. His re-appearance, as with the case of Jesus (as), is known only to Allah (swt).
                  If you think Imam Mahdi (as) was a coward for hiding, is Jesus (as) a coward as well ? Did he run away as well because he didn't want to be put on the cross ?

                  Or is it that both Imam Mahdi and Jesus (as) are in Ghaib, as per the Will of Allah (swt).

                  So in what capacity do you, a mere mortal, question a divine decree ?

                  The imam (as) entered a cave and was raised to the Almighty (swt). His Ghaib had started.

                  Why is this hard to believe ? Is it any harder than the fact that people thought Jesus (as) was on the cross, when in fact he wasn't ? That so one exactly like him was on the cross instead ?

                  Where was Jesus raised up from ? A cave, his home ?

                  This knowledge is of no importance to us for if it was, the Almighty (swt) would have informed us of it.

                  We make dua every day to Allah (swt) to hasten the reappearance of Imam Mahdi (as). Why ? Do you have a problem with that ?

                  What do you sunnis do to prepare for the coming of Imam Mahdi (as) ? Or is he just a topic of interest you discuss now and then on gupshup ?

                  If you are implying that our duas have not been answered, has the sunni Mahdi appeared yet ? Have your duas (if you make any) been answered ?

                  We believe in the 12 imams, and so does Muslim, as stated in his sahih. So what is your point ? How does our belief in the 12 imams negate our belief in imam Mahdi (as) ?

                  So coming back to the original topic, how does your sunni version prove that the shia belief is a myth ? Unless you are sunni and choose to believe in what you write, you are no closer to proving your version as correct as the taliban have a hope of victory.

                  Or is it that you are blowing hot air as usual ?

                  Examine your own beliefs first before claiming others as false.

                  It amazes me that each day you pronounce "Allah is Great", yet are the first to jump on the band wagon to limit His Powers.

                  May Allah (swt) keep us on the rightly guided path.

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                    #10
                    this is really interesting, I hardly knew anything about the subject before I came here.

                    it's kind of scary to think of such a future though huh. Makes you want to repent, seek forgiveness. May Allah help all of us, help the misguided to realize the right path and be pious. Aameen.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by a1shah:
                      [B]Posted by Ibrahim:
                      Ibrahim says: salaams to all

                      A1shah, I believe I had given the web site URL on my post , if you need immediate discussions on the subject feel free to email them. That webs site will provide the email address

                      You should know by now, that when I say something, I use “Ibrahim says” that article I posted was an email which reached my inbox and I posted it for those looking for the details in this thread.

                      If you think, I should guide you further, run this past me after Ramadhan in the mean time sleep in peace Allah (swt) is awake.


                      Was salaam
                      Ibrahim

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Spanky:
                        We sunnis do not reject the idea of Imam Mahdi and his coming, Inshallah he will.

                        But problem is that shias believe he was born like 1300 years ago and is still alive. According to our authentic ahadeeths he will be born, there is no mention of him being in ghaib and in hiding while his follwers and brothers suffer.

                        Slm
                        Also there r little problem with suuni believes regarding mehdi as well. From the authentic suuni hadtih sources there will be 12 consecutive imams and imam mehid will be the 12th imams.

                        ws

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by a1shah:
                          Spanky,

                          Seems to me that your questions would be equally relevant to Hazrat Essa (as) (Jesus), who is alive, and in the presence of the Almighty (swt).

                          Or is it that you do not believe in his second coming either ?

                          If Imam Mahdi (as) was borm 1300 years ago, Jesus (as) was born 2000 years ago.

                          I find it hard to believe that you think Allah (swt), in His Might and Majesty, would have trouble sustaining Imam Mahdi and Jesus (as) for these number of years.

                          The awaited Mahdi (as) is not in any cave but in the presence of his Lord (swt), awaiting instructions from Allah (swt) for his appreance from Ghaib.

                          Suffice it is to know that your sahih books confirm the leadership of 12 imams, the last of which is Imam Mahdi (as).

                          Just as the sun illuminates the world on a cloudy day (when the sun can't be seen), so does Imam Mahdi (as) guide the ummat of our holy apostle (pbuh) from his Ghaib.

                          ws
                          A1shah, perhaps reading my reply again would help?

                          Hazrat Issa and Imam Mahdi two different personalities. VERY DIFFERENT.

                          Hazrat Issa ibn maryam, was PROPHET/MESSENGER of ALLAH.
                          Imam Mehdi, if he was born is NOT a messenger of allah and if he not yet born, he will NOT be messenger of Allah. Thus, he cannot talk, or be in presence of ALLAH because he is an ordinary man choosen by Allah to lead the Muslims of his era to right path.

                          I asked you to give us some proof, not frill statements about what you THINK of him. If his birth 1300 years ago is in our books, please give us the reference. If he is mentioned somewhere in Quraan(maybe Sunni scholars for past 1400 years ago couldn't find it-we are doomed) please tell us the verse references. Please, don't give us your personal opinion about him, or what you were thought at the mazar. Bring some weight to your claims with some authentic proof. Remember, you are trying to convince me(sunni) thus the proof must be authentic and legitimate.




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                          "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"-juvenal

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ibrahim:
                            Ibrahim says: salaams to all

                            A1shah, I believe I had given the web site URL on my post , if you need immediate discussions on the subject feel free to email them. That webs site will provide the email address

                            You should know by now, that when I say something, I use “Ibrahim says” that article I posted was an email which reached my inbox and I posted it for those looking for the details in this thread.

                            If you think, I should guide you further, run this past me after Ramadhan in the mean time sleep in peace Allah (swt) is awake.


                            Was salaam
                            Ibrahim

                            Salam
                            When one has posted something, it’s the responsibility of the individual, and the assumption is that whatever u posted is what u believe/agree. The article ‘d have been better of if it has included references of the sources its used.

                            And also brother I don’t understand why u say ‘run this past me after ramdan’? I hope u r not suggesting as soon as ramdan is over we can do whatever we like implying the fact that we don’t learn lessons from ramdan and the sprit of ramdan is gone as soon as its over.

                            ws

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sarah Splendor:
                              this is really interesting, I hardly knew anything about the subject before I came here.

                              it's kind of scary to think of such a future though huh. Makes you want to repent, seek forgiveness. May Allah help all of us, help the misguided to realize the right path and be pious. Aameen.

                              ok now, youre scaring me. Listen, I don't know if this stuff is for real or not, not exactly learned when it comes to my religion so if somebody could clarify if this is true that'd be nice. Something new I learned today.
                              salam sister
                              yes it is really interesting. In Islam both shia and suuni believes Imam mehdi will appear before the end of time to establish justice on Earth and in his time people will leave in peace. These believes are from the authentic tradition from both shia and sunni sources (hadith). As far as I know of the Quran doesn’t mention about mehdi even thought it mentioned abt reappearance of Jesus (pbuh) on earth before the end of time.


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