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    Curse of Hadood Ordinance ,...

    During General Zia痴 regime Islamic laws were introduced under pressure from religious leadership. The Islamization was done in haste with expectations that now God's blessing will start pouring on Pakistan. God's blessings never visited Pakistani society in spite of Islamic laws. The laws under Islamization miserably failed to improve justice system rather they subjected the weaker elements of the society to more repressive treatment at the hands of the powerful. The women and children are often the victims of the Hadood laws that comes into action when a women reports of kidnapping /rape and or sexual assault. Under queer legal interpretation of the Hadood Laws the victim of rape is often made party to be blamed and hence punished. The rapists go free. The most infamous of the so-called Islamic laws happens to be Hadood Ordinance. In the feudal culture of rural Pakistan women are subordinate to the male dominated macho attitude that make women and children easy object of cruel treatment without any real legal recourse. There are reports that after the promulgation of Hadood Ordinance the number of women prisoners incarcerated in jails has multiplied. Many are languishing in jail for alleged sexual misconduct without trial even after years have gone by. Rape of these incarcerated women is reportedly very common in Pakistani prisons. In Pakistani feudal culture abduction and rape of women by influential Zamindars, Waderas, Sardars and henchmen of powerful politicians as well as by police officials is so common that such reports find minor coverage in the media. The legislators of Pakistan mostly come from the oppressive feudal culture. They are the ones who either engage in oppression against women themselves or seriously resist any effort to do away with the oppressive laws and oppressive attitude against women. An example of the anti-women attitude of our legislators was witnessed when they angrily rejected a resolution aimed at condemning the honor killing of women. The resolution was presented in the Pakistani Senate by a few legislators a couple of years ago. A recent honor killing of Peshawar women, Samia Sameer by her own parents, moved them. Samia wanted divorce from her husband, her cousin whom her parents gave her away in an arranged marriage. The woman was killed by socially and politically influential parents who took Samia's bold action as a rejection of family tradition of arranged marriage. Samia, they thought dishonored the family by seeking legal help from a human rights attorney based in the city of Lahore. The parents visited their daughter in the office of Samia's attorney. The parents of unfortunate Samia brought a hired killer with them. It was their duty to punish their daughter for disregarding the family tradition of not asking for divorce. When the resolution was moved in the Senate to condemn this act of honor killing there was an uproar in the Pakistani Senate against the resolution. The resolution could not pass and was not supported even by it's sponsors including the Senate Chairman, Wasim Sajjad, himself an attorney by profession.
    We should appeal to our Govt to show moral courage and do away with the Hadood Ordinance in spite of fear of serious opposition from the religious group. Somebody has to stand up for the protection of women and children who cannot protect themselves in Pakistan. Hadood Laws never brought God's blessing on Pakistan, it's doing away with may.



    [This message has been edited by TARIQ786USA (edited July 28, 2001).]
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    A Faith that cannot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets.

    #2
    Umm.......Tariq where is the link?

    It is taboo subject and I was recently reading Q&A in one pakistan paper where one girl asked Maulvi Shahib that why relegious groups dont like NGO's. he replied that we are not against NGO's but because these NGO's praopagate non-islamic culture such as womens rights issues and about qadianis and ahmdies group thatswhy we are against are them.
    So here is your answer from one "maulana".




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      #3
      There is a HUGE gap in Islamization of Pakistan. Legislators/law-makers attempted to 'Islamize' the law, but they forgot to change themselves, change the nation, didn't they?

      They ignored the corruption of people, corruption in government institutes, corruption in 'law-enforcing agencies', corruption of common people/elite class.

      How can you give a pistol to a person to enforce 'law and order' without educating him what the law is and how to implement it?

      Rather, our government took 'foxy' way to show people of Pakistan that Islamic laws are open to 'misuse', 'exploitation' etc.

      Now you can easily see how world, and NGOs demand "Islamic laws" to be removed. Isn't it a shame for us?

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        #4
        Changez

        It is not govt who are behind such laws. It is religious groups who put pressure on govt. to pass such laws and then these groups are happy. I think before we educate public we need to educate these mualana's and maulvi's of religious groups.

        It seems that these groups are very angry about NGO's helping womens,childerns and miniorities groups but they have no such activity to help womens and childerns.

        Why not ask one of these groups to open shelter for women and childerns or speak for human rights. After all we (muslims) that our beloved Holy Prophets (SAW) was "Mohsin-E-Insaaniat" isn't?? So as leaders of his Ummah it should be these mualvis who should be doing this.

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        [This message has been edited by Insaaniat (edited July 29, 2001).]

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          #5
          Insaaniat and Changiz,..Thanx for taking time and responding with facts,..
          >
          Personally,..
          I blame the Mis-application of divine
          law by corrupted people.Pakistan is a blessed country; it is that its people have
          not become truly committed to Islam and are divided along ethnic, linguistic,
          tribalistic and every other imaginable barriers and hatred, that the country's
          progress has been thwarted. When all these divisions are abandoned and when
          Allah's shari'ah becomes the basis of the constitution and the legal system and
          applied with fairness and justice and the fear of Allah, this country will
          become a showcase example for others to follow.

          [This message has been edited by TARIQ786USA (edited July 29, 2001).]
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          A Faith that cannot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets.

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            #6
            Please read up on history before you start making comments.

            The cursed Hudood Ordnance is a classic example of the selective and incomplete use of Shari'ah law, better termed ABUSE.

            Hudood Ordnance was passed by Gen. Zia under pressure from Saudi lobby. Since Zia was himself a Wahabi, he did everything he could to appease his masters.

            Afghanistan and Hudood Ordnance are just some of the blessings of the house of Saud.

            We here about their other blessings, almost every day in Karachi and elsewhere, sometimes they are doctors, sometimes lawyers, and now even a Defense Ministry director dropping dead.


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              #7
              Originally posted by alizadeh2000:
              Please read up on history before you start making comments.

              The cursed Hudood Ordnance is a classic example of the selective and incomplete use of Shari'ah law, better termed ABUSE.

              Hudood Ordnance was passed by Gen. Zia under pressure from Saudi lobby. Since Zia was himself a Wahabi, he did everything he could to appease his masters.

              Afghanistan and Hudood Ordnance are just some of the blessings of the house of Saud.

              We here about their other blessings, almost every day in Karachi and elsewhere, sometimes they are doctors, sometimes lawyers, and now even a Defense Ministry director dropping dead.

              What a legacy of ZIA-UL-HAQ,.....
              He left all his memories behind,....and those are not worth remembering,....
              GOD HELP US ALL.

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              A Faith that cannot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets.

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                #8
                Originally posted by alizadeh2000:
                Please read up on history before you start making comments.

                The cursed Hudood Ordnance is a classic example of the selective and incomplete use of Shari'ah law, better termed ABUSE.

                Hudood Ordnance was passed by Gen. Zia under pressure from Saudi lobby. Since Zia was himself a Wahabi, he did everything he could to appease his masters.

                Afghanistan and Hudood Ordnance are just some of the blessings of the house of Saud.

                We here about their other blessings, almost every day in Karachi and elsewhere, sometimes they are doctors, sometimes lawyers, and now even a Defense Ministry director dropping dead.

                Please, don't drag AFGHANISTAN in this thread here, stick to the topic. Thanks.

                Yes, hudood ordinance might have been done to appease house of Saud, but what would they (house of Saud) achieve from this law in particular? If they had asked to impose 'Wahabism' as the 'FIQH' of Pakistan it would helped/supported Sauds.

                But my point is, that we are almost playing with Divine Laws. Pick the ones that makes one comfortable and drop / ignore the one which endangers the rulers.

                Insaaniat is right. There is a huge gap that exists in 'madressah' and every local community. 'Molvis' are VERY EAGER to give fatwas against other sects, or issue any decree but they failed miserably to provide assistance / solution for the society. Thats one reason 'molvis' are getting bad reputation.

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                [This message has been edited by Changez_like (edited July 30, 2001).]

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