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    Aslamalikum my fellow guppoo's
    I have never come to the religion section but have recently started having great intrest in religion and will inshallah follow my religion to the best i can very soon.

    I have a few questions, would be grateful if you could answer them

    1. Is it wrong to kiss the thumbs and place them on your eyes when the name of the holy prophet (p.b.u.h) is mentioned? I kiss my thumbs etc etc at the moment.

    2. Was the Holy Prophet Nurr? (light)
    or was the holy Pophet (pbuh) a normal human being?

    Can i have constructive comments as i know these questions are very sensitive in nature.
    Can i also have proof please?

    To let you all know where i stand at the moment, well i believe that the holy prophet (pbuh) is nurr.

    thanks in advance

    ALLAHHAFIZ

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    #2
    1) Some people might differ with me on first question but I used to be confused as well but later on given the logic that you are supposed to say durood (sal-allah-o allahi wasalam) rather than doing something which hasn't been done before I understood and stopped doing it.

    2) There is ikhtilaf on certain groups whether prophet (pbuh) was Nuur or human and this is all where Sufism comes into Islam. I personally am convinced that Prophet (pbuh) was a human like us and died.

    I don't know if I am making any sense maybe someone else can explain it better.

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      #3
      u see this is where im confused.
      Cant light die ?
      or get taken away.
      why didnt they have a shadow?
      can a human go on mirage shireef?
      thanks for the reply khan sahib im grateful.
      but still confused

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        #4
        Salam Riz..
        Believing that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is not like the rest of humanity, and that he is light
        from the Light of Allaah Himself is not a correct belief, because it contradicts the Quraan. Allaah has stated that the Prophet
        (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is human, and has explained what makes the Prophet (peace and blessings of
        laah be upon him).
        May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad. And Allaah knows best.

        Allaah be upon him) different from the rest of mankind. He said
        (interpretation of the meaning):

        Say (O Muhammad): I am only a man like you. It has been
        inspired to me that your God is One God (Allaah). So whoever
        hopes for the Meeting with his Lord, let him work
        righteousness and associate none as a partner in the worship
        of his Lord. [al-Kahf 18:110]

        Mankind, human beings, are created, as Allaah says
        (interpretation of the meaning):

        O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a
        single person (Adam), and from him He created his wife
        (Hawwa/Eve), and from them both He created many men and
        women [al-Nisaa 4:1]

        O mankind, if you are in doubt about the Resurrection, then
        verily! We have created you from dust, then from a nutfah
        (mixed drops of male and female sexual discharge) [al-Hajj
        22:5]

        O Prophet! Verily, We have sent you as witness, and a bearer
        of glad tidings, and a warner, - and as one who invites to
        Allaah by His leave, and as a lamp spreading light.
        [al-Ahzaab 33:45-46]

        In contrast, Allaah is the First, and He has no beginning, as He
        says (interpretation of the meaning):

        He is the First (nothing is before Him) and the Last (nothing
        is after Him), the Most High (nothing is above Him), and the
        Most Near (nothing is nearer than Him). And He is the
        All-Knower of every thing. [al-Hadeed 57:3]

        Allaah called His Prophet light and a lamp spreading light
        because of the guidance and light with which Allaah sent him,
        with which Allaah guides all those who answer his call
        (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), as He says
        (interpretation of the meaning):

        Indeed, there has come to you a light (Prophet Muhammad
        (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)) and a plain
        Book (this Quraan). [al-Maaidah 5:15]

        3.Saying that he is present and watching in every place, that he is
        himself present at every gathering to celebrate his birthday, and
        that he hears what the people present are saying, is all false.
        There is no basis for this in either the Quraan or the Sunnah.

        4.Calling on him and seeking his help and support is a form of
        major shirk which is not permitted, whether one is calling on the
        Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or on
        any other created being, because Allaah says (interpretation of
        the meaning):

        so invoke not anyone along with Allaah.
        [al-Junn 72:18]

        And whoever invokes (or worships) besides
        Allaah, any other god of whom he has no
        proof, then his reckoning is only with his Lord.
        Surely! Al-kaafiroon (the disbelievers) will not
        be successful. [al-Muminoon 23:117]

        (Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daaimah, 3/4)

        The Muslim should follow, not innovate. He should believe in Allaah
        alone, call on Him alone and seek His help alone. He should not call
        on or seek the help of anyone else. The consequences of shirk are
        devastating, as it will wipe out all a persons good deeds and lead to
        his doom in Hell. Bidah is a serious matter, which will cause a
        persons deeds to be thrown back at him, not accepted. The Muslim
        should love, respect, honour and obey the Prophet (peace and
        blessings of Allaah be upon him), and give his words precedence over
        the words of any other human being, but it is not permitted to
        exaggerate about him, or to raise his status above that which has been
        bestowed upon him by Allaah, or to call on him instead of Allaah,
        because this is a violation of the rights of Allaah, and involves
        directing acts of worship to someone other than Allaah, when they
        should only be directed towards Allaah, may He be glorified and
        exalted. We ask Allaah to help us to do that which will please Him and
        to avoid that which will earn His wrath, and to help us to love Him
        and His Prophet (peace and blessings of Al

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          #5
          Salam Riz..
          Believing that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is not like the rest of humanity, and that he is light
          from the Light of Allaah Himself is not a correct belief, because it contradicts the Quraan. Allaah has stated that the Prophet
          (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is human, and has explained what makes the Prophet (peace and blessings of
          laah be upon him).
          May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad. And Allaah knows best.

          Allaah be upon him) different from the rest of mankind. He said
          (interpretation of the meaning):

          Say (O Muhammad): I am only a man like you. It has been inspired to me that your God is One God (Allaah). So whoever
          hopes for the Meeting with his Lord, let him work righteousness and associate none as a partner in the worship of his Lord. [al-Kahf 18:110]

          Mankind, human beings, are created, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

          O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam), and from him He created his wife (Hawwa/Eve), and from them both He created many men and
          women [al-Nisaa 4:1]

          O mankind, if you are in doubt about the Resurrection, then verily! We have created you from dust, then from a nutfah
          (mixed drops of male and female sexual discharge) [al-Hajj
          22:5]

          O Prophet! Verily, We have sent you as witness, and a bearer of glad tidings, and a warner, - and as one who invites to
          Allaah by His leave, and as a lamp spreading light.
          [al-Ahzaab 33:45-46]

          In contrast, Allaah is the First, and He has no beginning, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

          He is the First (nothing is before Him) and the Last (nothing is after Him), the Most High (nothing is above Him), and the
          Most Near (nothing is nearer than Him). And He is the All-Knower of every thing. [al-Hadeed 57:3]

          Allaah called His Prophet light and a lamp spreading light because of the guidance and light with which Allaah sent him, with which Allaah guides all those who answer his call (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), as He says
          (interpretation of the meaning):

          Indeed, there has come to you a light (Prophet Muhammad
          (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)) and a plain
          Book (this Quraan). [al-Maaidah 5:15]

          3.Saying that he is present and watching in every place, that he is
          himself present at every gathering to celebrate his birthday, and
          that he hears what the people present are saying, is all false.
          There is no basis for this in either the Quraan or the Sunnah.

          4.Calling on him and seeking his help and support is a form of
          major shirk which is not permitted, whether one is calling on the
          Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or on
          any other created being, because Allaah says (interpretation of
          the meaning):

          so invoke not anyone along with Allaah.
          [al-Junn 72:18]

          And whoever invokes (or worships) besides
          Allaah, any other god of whom he has no
          proof, then his reckoning is only with his Lord.
          Surely! Al-kaafiroon (the disbelievers) will not be successful. [al-Muminoon 23:117]

          (Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daaimah, 3/4)The Muslim should follow, not innovate. He should believe in Allaah alone, call on Him alone and seek His help alone. He should not call on or seek the help of anyone else. The consequences of shirk are devastating, as it will wipe out all a persons good deeds and lead to his doom in Hell. Bidah is a serious matter, which will cause a
          persons deeds to be thrown back at him, not accepted. The Muslim should love, respect, honour and obey the Prophet (peace and
          blessings of Allaah be upon him), and give his words precedence over
          the words of any other human being, but it is not permitted to exaggerate about him, or to raise his status above that which has been
          bestowed upon him by Allaah, or to call on him instead of Allaah,
          because this is a violation of the rights of Allaah, and involves directing acts of worship to someone other than Allaah, when they should only be directed towards Allaah, may He be glorified and
          exalted. We ask Allaah to help us to do that which will please Him and to avoid that which will earn His wrath, and to help us to love Him and His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah)

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            #6
            salaam...Here is some more info..I hope that u won't deviate from the sunnah..inshallah..may Allah guide you..
            Praise be to Allaah.

            The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon
            him) has been described as being light from the light of Allaah. If what
            is meant by this is that he himself is from the light of Allaah, then this
            goes against the Quraan, which refers to his being human. If what is
            meant is that he is light in the sense that he brought the Revelation by
            which whoever Allah wills of His creation is guided, then this is
            correct. The committee has issued a fatwa concerning this matter, as
            follows:

            The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has
            light which is the light of the message and guidance from Allaah,
            through which Allaah guides whomsoever He will of His slaves. No
            doubt the light of the message and of guidance comes from Allaah.
            Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

            It is not given to any human being that Allaah should speak to him
            unless (it be)by inspiration, or from behind a veil, or (that) He sends
            a Messenger to reveal what He wills by His Leave. Verily, He is
            Most High, Most Wise.

            And thus We have sent to you (O Muhammad) Roohan (an
            Inspiration, and a Mercy) of Our Command. You knew not what is
            the Book, nor what is Faith? But We have made it (this Quraan) a
            light wherewith We guide whosoever of Our slaves We will. And
            verily, you (O Muhammad) are indeed guiding (mankind) to the
            Straight Path (i.e., Allaahs religion of Islamic monotheism), --

            The path of Allaah, to Whom belongs all that is in the heavens and
            all that is in the earth. Verily, all the matters at the end go to Allaah
            (for decision).[al-Shura 42:51-53]

            This light is not derived from the Seal of the Awliya as some heretics
            claim. The body of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be
            upon him) was blood and flesh and bone, and so on. He was created
            from a father and a mother, and had no existence before he was born.
            The reports which say that the first thing created by Allaah was the
            light of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him),
            or that Allaah grasped a handful of the light from His Face and that
            this handful was Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be
            upon him), then He looked at it and it formed drops, and from each of
            these drops He created a Prophet, or He created all of creation from
            the light of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon
            him) all of these reports and the like are not saheeh, and nothing like
            this has been narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of
            Allaah be upon him).

            From the fatwa quoted above, it is clear that this is a false belief.

            As for the report which says I am Arab without (the letter) ayn,
            i.e., Rabb, and I am Ahmad without (the letter) meem, i.e., Ahad
            the attributes of Lordship (ruboobiyah, from Rabb meaning Lord) and
            Absolute Unity (Ahad meaning One) are attributes that belong
            uniquely to Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted. It is not
            permissible for any one of His creation to be described as the Lord
            (Rabb) or as being One (Ahad) in absolute terms. These are
            attributes that belong exclusively to Allaah, and are not used to
            describe the Messengers or any other human beings. May Allaah bless
            our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions.

            Al-Lajnah al-Daaimah lil-Buhooth al-Ilmiyyah wal-Ifta (Standing
            Committee for Academic Research and the Issuing of Fatwas).

            Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daaimah, 1/310.

            Question:

            Is it said that Allaah created the heavens and earth for the purpose of
            creating the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)?
            What is the meaning of the words, Were it not for you, the universe
            [lit. heavenly bodies] would not have been created? Is there any basis
            for this hadeeth? Is it saheeh or not? Please give us the facts.

            Answer:

            The heavens and earth were not created for the sake of the Prophet
            (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). They were created
            for the reason mentioned by Allaah in the aayah (interpretation of the
            meaning):

            It is Allaah Who has created seven heavens and of the earth the like
            thereof (i.e., seven). His Command descends between them (heavens
            and earth), that you may know that Allaah has power over all things,
            and that Allaah surrounds (comprehends) all things in (His)
            Knowledge.[al-Talaaq 65:12]

            As for the hadeeth mentioned, it is falsely attributed to the Prophet
            (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and has no grounds
            for authenticity. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad and his
            family and companions.

            Al-Lajnah al-Daaimah lil-Buhooth al-Ilmiyyah wal-Ifta (Standing
            Committee for Academic Research and the Issuing of Fatwas).

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              #7
              thanks very much.
              I will now wait for some more views but i def am a bit more clearer as to where i stand on this issue.

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              the safest way to double your money is to fold it over once and put it in your pocket
              I love deadlines. I especially like the whooshing sound they make as they go flying by

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                #8
                I agree with Khan_sahib on kissing the tumb issue, you should say darood. Mohammed PBUH is not noor but a human. It is very clear in Quran that Mohammed PBUH is one of us Human who brought us the teaching of Allah. He is like the light on the lighthouse, which shows the right path.

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                  #9
                  There is an ayat as shown by FunnyGirl.UK which tells that Prophet PBUH was a human being, and there is another ayat which tells that all creatures have to face death. And there is an ayat which Hadrat Abu Bakr (RA) recited to people after death of Prophet PBUH which tells us that Prophet PBUH was supposed to die........ all leading us to support the idea that he was HUMAN BEING as we are.

                  My suggestion is that don't look into these details, it is not in "fundamental" beleifs to consider Prophet PBUH as "light/noor" or "human being". Allah will not ask you whether Prophet PBUH was a human being or noor, HE'll ask you whether you followed him or not, and if followed then your sincerity will be checked.

                  The very first thing that will be measured on Judgement Day is your "Prayers"-the 5 times a day- prayers. You'll be asked about your promises, you'll be asked for "haqooq-ul-Allah", for "haqooq-ul-Ibaad". Allah will not ask you who should've been khalifa after Prophet PBUH etc.

                  We should be focusing on "bigger picture".... the teachings of Islam. Lets get our major "faraaiz" done with sincerity first.

                  Conclusion:
                  Answers
                  1. If you kiss thumbs and place them on eyes and think about this act as "religious" and consider yourself to be rewarded... then its not right to do it, but saying the "darood-e-Ibrahimi" or "sallal-Allahu-alaihi wa-aalihi wassalam" is a rewarding act. This act of kissing thumbs is not from Sunnah.

                  2. Consideration of Holy Prophet PBUH as Noor is considered as "shirk", because ppl who beleive Holy Prophet PBUH as noor also think that his noor is present "everywhere", which is Allah-only characteristic (to be present everywhere). These ppl (beleiving in Prophet PBUH as noor) try to prove their notion from ahadith, while we know that if some hadith goes against the teachings of Quran we have to ignore such hadith. So in order to be in a safer place, consider him as Human being which is proved by Quran.

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