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    786

    why is this number so important???
    "Seek Allah's help with patient perseverance and prayer. It is indeed hard except for those who are humble." (2:45)

    #2
    Re: 786

    not important

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      #3
      Re: 786

      some people think it signifies the word 'bismillah'

      i am not sure however, as to how true this is ...

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        #4
        Re: 786

        anyone else know how it signifies "bismillah"?
        "Seek Allah's help with patient perseverance and prayer. It is indeed hard except for those who are humble." (2:45)

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          #5
          Re: 786

          The "mathematical" value of "BismillahirRahmanirRaheem" has been computed to be 786 by Rashad Khalifa, hence people began using it to keep the sanctity.....

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            #6
            Re: 786

            how is this value calculated?
            "Seek Allah's help with patient perseverance and prayer. It is indeed hard except for those who are humble." (2:45)

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              #7
              Re: 786

              found the link myself..thanks..case closed

              http://www.7-8-6.info/
              "Seek Allah's help with patient perseverance and prayer. It is indeed hard except for those who are humble." (2:45)

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                #8
                Re: 786

                ^
                Don't belive every website you come across.

                786 is meaningless.

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                  #9
                  Re: 786

                  786 is meaningless... whats the point of that......

                  why not create some other 3 number digits for the kalima?
                  Patta patta boota boota haal hamaara jaane hai
                  Jaane na jaane gul he na jaane, baagh to saara jaane hai

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                    #10
                    Re: 786

                    Yup, meaningless indeed.
                    'Music is a moral law. It gives wings to the mind, a soul to the universe, flight to the imagination, a charm to sadness, a life to everything.' -- Plato

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                      #11
                      Re: 786

                      Bismillah, alhamdulillah wa sallallahu ^ala rasulillah,

                      Like brother Captain1 said, 786 is a calculation to the Arabic letters in Hisab Al-Jummal (gematrical calculation). Allah knows if it's valid to use it for Qur'an. I would not. But I will explain further who this works.


                      Hisab al-Jummal is a cacluclation that assigns every letter in Arabic a digit.

                      Alif = 1
                      Ba' = 2 ... and so on.

                      But the sequence is: 1,2,3... to 10, 20 - 100, 200 - 1000


                      The letters would be as follows:

                      أبجد هوز حطى :
                      (أ=1) (ب=2) (ج=3) (د=4) (هـ=5) (و=6) (ز=7) (ح=8) (ط=9) (ى=10).

                      كلمن سعفص قـ:
                      (ك=20) (ل=30) (م=40) (ن=50) (س=60) (ع70) (ف=80) (ص=90) (ق100).

                      ـرشت ثخذ ضغظ:
                      (ر=200) (ش=300) (ت=400) (ث=500) (خ=600) (ذ=700) (ض=800) (غ=900) (ظ=1000).


                      Scholars used to say a line of Poem, and at same time that line would give a secret code of when that poem was authored.

                      Example:
                      A poet used it in talking about the rules of Tajweed. He made a poem stating the rules of the Arabic letters, and in the end of the poem he said:
                      أبـيـاتـه نـدٌّ بـدا لـذِى النُّـهى تـاريـخـها بشـرى لـمـن يتقنهــا

                      The last stanza means "it's date is a good news to the one who masters it". That in Arabic, when calculated in Jummal calculation, gave the year he aughtored that book in. Which was year 1189 after Hijrah.

                      Islamic poets are very inteligent. They will say a line of poem instantly that has a beautifull meaning and at the same time gives you a the date or time using Hisab al-Jummal.


                      NOW, as for using that Hisab to calculate the Qur'an, I have never heard if it's valid or not. SO Allah knows if its valid to use it for the Qur'an. But I would not.

                      Scholars used it for Islamic poems only.
                      Last edited by Ahmad G; Mar 16, 2006, 10:49 AM.
                      Ahmad G
                      Islamic Studies Teacher/Student.

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                        #12
                        Re: 786

                        fazool bat hay koi 786 kuch nahi

                        bismillah likhay ka multub Allah ka nam layna or us ki siffat ka izhhat kerna hay

                        786 say nay Allah kay nam zahir hita hay na siffat !
                        Jo ban ban ker bigray ussay Tadbeer kehtay hain
                        Jo bigar bigar ker banay ussay
                        Taqdeer kehtay hain

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