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    A person prays salah by facing a certain direction, which he thought was the right direction (estimated, told by someone etc) for Masjid-al-Haraam. After he completed the salah, someone pointed out that he should have faced a slightly different direction (not like tirkoo-mirkoo, but just some slight adjustment)... is that person supposed to pray again, or is it the niyyah that counts?

    Jazak Allah
    "Let your friends underestimate your virtues. Let your enemies overestimate your faults." - Godfather.

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    Two cases in which one doesn't have to face the Ka'bah


    The first one is performing voluntary prayers while riding (an animal, car and so on). The rider may bend his head slightly for the bowings and prostrations of the prayer, but he should bend a little bit lower for the prostrations. He may face in whatever direction his ride is going.
    Reported 'Amr ibn Rabi'ah, "I saw the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, pray while riding, and he faced the direction in which he was going." This hadith is related by Muslim, at-Tirmidhi and al-Bukhari. The latter added that "he bent his head slighty."
    He did not, however, do this for the obligatory prayers. Ahmad, Muslim and at-Tirmidhi recorded that he would pray on his mount while travelling from Makkah to Madinah, facing away from Makkah. Upon this, Allah revealed, "Wherever you turn, you will find Allah's face." Says Ibrahim an-Nakha'i, "They would pray on their mounts and animals in the direction in which they were facing." Ibn Hazm comments, "This has been related from the companions and those of the following generation, during travel and residence. "
    The second case is praying while having to deal with forced conditions, illness and fear. Under such circumstances, it is allowed to pray without facing the qiblah. The Prophet, upon whom be peace, said, "If I order you to do something, do what you are capable of doing." Says Allah, "If you go in fear, then (pray) standing or on your mounts..." (al-Baqarah 239). Ibn 'Umar added, "Facing the qiblah or not facing it." (Related by al-Bukhari.)


    -- taken from Fiqh-Us-Sunnah (1.115a)
    Quite often good things have hurtful consequences. There are instances of men who have been ruined by their money or KILLED by their COURAGE. ~Aristotle

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      #3
      Originally posted by Anwaar Qureshi:
      Two cases in which one doesn't have to face the Ka'bah
      Well, thanks for the reply. I was not thinking of travelling in an airplane or car. I was more thinking of a case, where you go to visit a new place (picnic etc). Prayer time comes. You estimate the direction of Qiblah and pray. After you have completed your prayer, someone points out the direction should have been slightly different. Do you you have to pray again?
      "Let your friends underestimate your virtues. Let your enemies overestimate your faults." - Godfather.

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        #4
        ^

        okay here:

        If one can not determine the direction of the qiblah

        He should ask one who knows. If he finds no one to ask, he should try his best to determine it. In such a case, his prayer will be valid, and he need not repeat it even though he discovers later on that he had faced in the wrong direction. If it is made clear to him while he is praying that he is facing the wrong direction, he need only turn in the proper direction without stopping his prayer. This is based on the following incident: Ibn 'Umar reported that the people were praying the morning prayer in the Quba' mosque when a person came to them and said, "Allah has revealed some of the Qur'an to the Prophet in which we have been ordered to face the Ka'bah, so face it." They immedately turned their faces from Syria to the Ka'bah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.)
        If one prays according to what he determined and then wants to make another prayer, he should again try to determine the qiblah's direction. If it turns out to be different from what he had determined earlier, he should pray in the new direction without repeating his earlier prayer.

        ---Fiqh-us-Sunnah (1.115)
        Quite often good things have hurtful consequences. There are instances of men who have been ruined by their money or KILLED by their COURAGE. ~Aristotle

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          #5
          Originally posted by Faisal:
          Well, thanks for the reply. I was not thinking of travelling in an airplane or car. I was more thinking of a case, where you go to visit a new place (picnic etc). Prayer time comes. You estimate the direction of Qiblah and pray. After you have completed your prayer, someone points out the direction should have been slightly different. Do you you have to pray again?
          According to my knowledge you can face any direction you want by your best approximation if you don't know the true direction...
          Focus not on who you are but what you do...
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            #6
            Originally posted by Lajawab:


            According to my knowledge you can face any direction you want by your best approximation if you don't know the true direction...
            I think so too...
            Tum Karbala kay baad bhee Syed-Sajjad a.s. ho
            Koi or hota tou khatha Khuda koi nahin hai

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              #7
              Re: Another question about Qibla

              Originally posted by Faisal:


              A person prays salah by facing a certain direction, which he thought was the right direction (estimated, told by someone etc) for Masjid-al-Haraam. After he completed the salah, someone pointed out that he should have faced a slightly different direction (not like tirkoo-mirkoo, but just some slight adjustment)... is that person supposed to pray again, or is it the niyyah that counts?

              Jazak Allah
              No he is not required to pray again.....unless the direction is completly the oppposite one...and the person telling the new direction is supposed to be telling the truth......

              wallah o aalaum
              لا عيش إلا عيش الآخرة
              BROTHERS NOT SLAVES. Regain Respect

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                #8
                someone pointed out that he should have faced a slightly different direction

                Sunni Fiqa main ... right or letf hand side par 45 degree tak different direction main nimaz jaiz hay.
                Meray Roz O Shab k Nisaab Main Meray Paas Apna To Kuch Nahi

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