Playing Cards

[funguy]

Why is such a nice family game considered "makrooh", "haram", "gunnah", and "Nahooset"?.

If the argument is that it's a waste of time, then so is doing gupshup. That's also a waste of time. Also, watching TV should be placed at the same level. I used to play cards with my dad, brothers, uncles, aunties and cousins. But some of my friends would consider it as some sort of gunnah. I don't get it.

[funguy]

WHy is it gunnah?. The money stays within the household. No?

[Femme Fatale]

I think it's probably becuase of its association with gambling and stuff. My mum used to get very angry when I played solitaire on the computer!!! Beat that! We hardly ever played cards at our home, besides snap and turning over matching cards when we were little kids. I later learnt a couple of other games while in boarding school and bro in law taught another which I have completely forgotten...even the names!

I don't see anything wrong with it but again some people look down on it due to how it is percieved in their cultures. In our culture cards are played mostly by gunda type people at 'jooa khaana's' or then people who r broad minded enough to not see it as a vice but a just a game. The larger middle class and lower middle class see it as a vice!

[funguy]

Is a dumb gunnah as bad as a good gunnah?. This doesn't make no good sense at all. I mean wouldn't it be great if you could get the pocket money you gave your kids back by beating them at cards-jooa?

[funguy]

Femme, you are right. But playing jooa is different than playing a nice few hours of Chakkrri or Black Queen. I have played card games like forever but I never ever indulged in jooa. I have seen people play jooa but I never participated. AT the most, we would use poker chips to play Poker.

[Lajawab]

There are two things when it comes to spending time in front of a computer and hence GupShup...First, you dawdle your time away in senseless pursuits and useless bakwas, or second, you learn from it...

GupShup's religion forum has been for me a great asset...I have learnt a great deal about things which I never knew about...And writing in it and sharing my own knowledge makes me more aware of what I myself know and believe in...Someone once quoted that writing makes one perfect...

The internet can actually be either a blessing or a curse...It solely depends upon the person what he decides to make of it...It can either be Makrooh or even Haram in many instances or it can be an indispensible tool for learning...

The problem with games is that there is really nothing you can learn from them except just waste time which could have been spent doing something better and more creative...

[Mr Xtreme]

Well it's only considered gunnah because of it's association with gambling. So if there's no money involved it's not gambling is it? Apart from in the eyes of a few hardcore types maybe.

[funguy]

Lajawab, you never ever get my point. WHen I said "gupshup" I meant gupshup as in family /friends talk. WHich is also as much of a waste of time as playing cards.

[Mr Xtreme]

Originally posted by Lajawab:

The problem with games is that there is really nothing you can learn from them except just waste time which could have been spent doing something better and more creative...

Look who's talking. Reading that crap you post here regularly has to be considered a serious waste of time. Although it is funny sometimes, I'll give you that

[funguy]

Now that Madhanee mentioned slot machines, I just remebered that I have also played for money in a casino. It was The Taj in Atlantic city. I walked in with $100, turned it into $150 by playing Black Jack and then down to $20 after getting too aggressive. Oh well, it was good fun.

[Femme Fatale]

Yes black queen is what bhai taught me and I beat him at it
It's alwasy the elders who instill the gunnah factor in the young ones minds lest the kids should go awry later on in life. card games are seen as a step-stone to gambling by the majority. It's more of a protective measure that people take to 'save' their children.

Aapki kya baat hei! Aap tau MashAllah bohot samajhdar hein. We can't use you for comparison. You are way too wise and sagacious for the average person!

[Lajawab]

Originally posted by funguy:
Lajawab, you never ever get my point. WHen I said "gupshup" I meant gupshup as in family /friends talk. WHich is also as much of a waste of time as playing cards.

Funguy...But I understand what you mean...It becomes Makrooh and/or Haram if it takes you away from your religious duties and obligations...

Xtreme: But you do read my crap, even for its entertaining value alone...At least my posts have that much to offer...What's your excuse?

[funguy]

I am surprised mods haven't moved this thread to KK yet. LOL

[Femme Fatale]

[Femme Fatale]

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