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**Ohioguy** · Feb 13, 2003, 11:32 AM

"American leader Lyndon LaRouche, a Democratic Presidential pre-candidate in 2004"

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

First Dennis Kucinich, then Lyndon LaRouche.

Everytime I think we have hit the complete bottom of the barrel, another article ignorant of American politics is posted here.

I may hurt myself laughing again.....

**myvoice** · Feb 13, 2003, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Ohioguy:
"American leader Lyndon LaRouche, a Democratic Presidential pre-candidate in 2004"

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

First Dennis Kucinich, then Lyndon LaRouche.

Everytime I think we have hit the complete bottom of the barrel, another article ignorant of American politics is posted here.

I may hurt myself laughing again.....

I couldn't believe that description of LaRouche either. Just had to find out who these guys were who could possibly believe that. Here's how they describe themselves:

"The Independent Media Center was established by various independent and alternative media organizations and activists in 1999 for the purpose of providing grassroots coverage of the World Trade Organization (WTO) protests in Seattle."

Enough said?

**underthedome** · Feb 13, 2003, 11:41 AM

PA, I think you have the energy and will to help this organization free Marina.

http://www.projectfreedom.cng1.com/free_marina.html

**Seminole** · Feb 13, 2003, 12:15 PM

Did Mossad also issue this fatwa:
Jihad against Jews and Crusaders

Because it also does nothing for the Muslims or the cause it's supposed to uphold or have any moral or religious authority.

Also, more important questions:
Could Mossad be behind the fake moon landings?
Did xtraterrestrial Jews kidnap Elvis to have him one day return as the Messiah?
Are Jews the cause of the poverty and uneducation that dominates the Muslim world?

**Ohioguy** · Feb 13, 2003, 12:26 PM

UDT,

Unfortunately even the rantings of a schizophrenic will show up on Google.

Thus proving everything that is on the internet is not true, nor does it carry credibility or intellectual weight.

If only Marina knew that remote control effect and manipulation of human being technology (RCEMHBT) was a Mossad effort, and not one of the MI5!

She left out RAW too....

I did hear that she was dating Lyndon LaRouche!

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

**PakistaniAbroad** · Feb 13, 2003, 12:47 PM

maybe after Happy Hour you can proceed reading the rest of it..

and Seminole.. it's been a while for you around these boards.. by now one could have picked up how mainstream Islam actually works.. but maybe u need more time.

**Ohioguy** · Feb 13, 2003, 12:57 PM

PA,

credible

\Cred"i*ble\ (kr[e^]d"[i^]*b'l), a. [L. credibilis, fr. credere. See Creed.] Capable of being credited or believed; worthy of belief; entitled to confidence; trustworthy

The inclusion of Lyndon LaRouche makes this article not credible.

Try again.

Cheers!

**Stu** · Feb 13, 2003, 01:07 PM

"by now one could have picked up how mainstream Islam actually works"

Well, it appears that giving credence to every conspiracy theory that comes along has a significant presence in mainstream Islam. As far as I can tell anyway.

**underthedome** · Feb 13, 2003, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by Ohioguy:
PA,

credible

\Cred"i*ble\ (kr[e^]d"[i^]*b'l), a. [L. credibilis, fr. credere. See Creed.] Capable of being credited or believed; worthy of belief; entitled to confidence; trustworthy

The inclusion of Lyndon LaRouche makes this article not credible.

Try again.

Cheers!

So he believes the United States government is secretly being controlled by the British and doesn't like paying taxes, big deal.

**myvoice** · Feb 13, 2003, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
and Seminole.. it's been a while for you around these boards.. by now one could have picked up how mainstream Islam actually works.. but maybe u need more time.

PA: I've been around these boards for awhile too and must confess that my search to discover just what "mainstream Islam" is and how it works is ongoing. Unfortunately, what I'd like to see and believe is "mainstream" all too often appears as if it is a minority viewpoint. What appears dangerous and virulently anti-American and anti-western all too often appears as if its mainstream.

And if "mainstream Islam" finds Kucinich, LaRouche and Duke to be "credible" spokespersons on any issue, heaven help us all.

**PakistaniAbroad** · Feb 13, 2003, 01:42 PM

Perhaps y'all watch too much state-TV so written words are difficult to understand.

Let me try again.. it's not about what LaRouche thinks and he's not the one reporting it, so don't go pulling a strawman; it raises other questions as to why all of u wouldn't tackle the issue seriously.

Now in case u couldn't find it.. here it is again.

Chronology of the Revelations

On December 7, the British news service, Reuters, the Israeli daily Ha'aretz, and Qatar-based Al-Jazeera TV network, all reported that the Palestinian Authority had accused the Mossad of creating a phony al Qaeda cell in the Gaza Strip.

Ha'aretz reported, "the head of Palestinian Preventive Security" in the Gaza Strip, Col. Rashid Abu Shbak, said on December 6, "that his forces had identified a number of Palestinian collaborators who had been ordered by Israeli security agencies to 'work in the Gaza Strip under the name of al Qaeda.' He said the investigation was ongoing and evidence would be presented soon." Al-Jazeera TV added that the Palestinian authorities had arrested a group of Palestinian "collaborators with Israeli occupation" in Gaza, involved in the operation.

Reuters' reporter Diala Saadeh, under the headline, "Palestinians: Israel Faked Gaza al-Qaeda Presence," quoted a number of Palestinian Authority (P.A.) senior officials, including President Yasser Arafat, who told reporters at his West Bank Ramallah headquarters, that Sharon's claims of al Qaeda operations in Palestinian territories "is a big, big, big lie to cover [Sharon's] attacks and his crimes against our people everywhere." P.A. Information Minister Yasser Abed Rabbo detailed the case:

"There are certain elements who were instructed by the Mossad to form a cell under the name of al Qaeda in the Gaza Strip in order to justify the assault and the military campaigns of the Israeli occupation army against Gaza."

Palestinian officials promised to provide detailed evidence, and did so on December 8, in a press conference addressed by Colonel Shbak, and by Palestinian Minister for Planning and International Cooperation Nabil Shaath.

Shbak told the international representatives that, "Over the past nine months, we've been investigating eight cases in which Israeli intelligence posing as al Qaeda operatives recruited Palestinians in the Gaza Strip." Colonel Shbak said that three men were under arrest, and 11 had been released.

He explained that those released had voluntarily provided information going back to May 2002, about the contacts that had been made asking them to operate as an "al Qaeda" group.

The alleged al Qaeda recruiters were traced to Israeli intelligence, said Colonel Shbak. He detailed incidents, some of which were described in official documents, of cell phone calls and e-mails, where Palestinians were asked to "join al Qaeda."

Shbak said, "We investigated the origin of those calls, which used [wireless phone] roaming, and messages, and found out they all came from Israel," reported the publication IslamOnline. He said that the potential "recruits," had been given money and weapons, "although most of these weapons did not even work." He also noted that the money for these targeted Palestinians "was transferred from bank accounts in Jerusalem or Israel."

Minister Shaath announced at the press conference that the P.A. had "handed ambassadors and consuls of the Arab and foreign countries, documents revealing the involvement of the Israeli intelligence in recruiting citizens from Gaza Strip in a fake organization carrying the name of Qaeda." He said the ploy was intended "to create a new excuse to escalate the aggression on Gaza Strip."

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PakistaniAbroad: Doesn't sound funny at all to me.. but maybe you have nothing to comment cuz questions arise that might actually lead to exposing the whole fraud behind 'Al-Kayda' and this supposed 'terror'.

**Ohioguy** · Feb 13, 2003, 02:12 PM

PA, where is the proof?

I want to see the evidence.

Anyone could have made up those documents.

The PA could have made up any of those copies.

Damn it man, I want a slideshow with satellite pictures, and voice recordings, and defectors, and inspectors, and I want proof that the Israeli's tried to block the press conference, and ....

And even if you produce all those things I will not believe your little conspiracy theory.

Sound Familiar???

**Seminole** · Feb 13, 2003, 02:16 PM

I am not only constantly in search of "how mainstream Islam actually works", but if "mainstream Islam" even exists.

And PA, you are way too bright to say that Muslim extremism does not exist and that there is not a global network that is hell bent on bringing down America through terror activitites. It appears that you are caught up in the whole conspiracy theory mindset that I heretofore thought was limited to the uneducated masses of the 3rd world. What about OBL and his fatwas? What about the Jihad Group in Egypt, the Egyptian Islamic Group and others? Are they also made up by Zionist and American powers to justify a war agains Islam?

**myvoice** · Feb 13, 2003, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by Ohioguy:
Damn it man, I want a slideshow with satellite pictures, and voice recordings, and defectors, and inspectors, and I want proof that the Israeli's tried to block the press conference, and ....

And even if you produce all those things I will not believe your little conspiracy theory.

OG: You have learned TOO well my friend.

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