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    Pakistan loses 50pc market share in Kabul - who is responsible for this?

    who is responsible for his colossal failure in Afghanistan? afghans hate us now, india is penetrating big time economically and strategically.

    i pointed out many times on this forum that pak army establishment is playing with fire..by supporting animals called afghan taliban we are buying hatred among common afghan masses.... but i was called anti pakistan pessimist

    and here we are. we have lost 50% of the commercial market plujs afghans hate us. what a policy! hello? who is responsible for this mess. wake up guys....

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1393106/pa...share-in-kabul

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    acha, afghans bukhar ki dawee b india se lainay jatay hain ab
    Turn the table...
    Sun to sahi jahan main hai tera fasana kya.

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      #3
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      The same Afghans who were given shelter and protection in their millions by Pakistan? They are the most selfish most rattiest of people who keep inherent grudges for an eternity. They never accepted the Durand Line and have longstanding hatred for Pakistan.
      I'm Not The Messiah, I'm A Very Naughty Boy

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        #4
        Re: Pakistan loses 50pc market share in Kabul - who is responsible for this?

        Originally posted by phoenixdesi View Post
        who is responsible for his colossal failure in Afghanistan? afghans hate us now, india is penetrating big time economically and strategically.

        i pointed out many times on this forum that pak army establishment is playing with fire..by supporting animals called afghan taliban we are buying hatred among common afghan masses.... but i was called anti pakistan pessimist

        and here we are. we have lost 50% of the commercial market plujs afghans hate us. what a policy! hello? who is responsible for this mess. wake up guys....

        https://www.dawn.com/news/1393106/pa...share-in-kabul
        Correction...
        they been hating us since 1947 even when we were not involved in Afghanistan.... So your ""they hate us now"" rant does not hold any ground. This recent afghan move was bound to happen given the fact that they do not consider Durand line as international border. Stop attaching everything with afghans war. The only time Pakistan enjoyed good relations with Afghanistan was during Taliban's government. Both countries were never on good terms before and after Taliban... Hope it helps.

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          #5
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          India is heavily subsidizing its exports which I don't think Pakistan should be doing at all wrt Afghanistan.

          As for OP, I have noticed that pakistani punjabis outside the country like to hangout with indians with all that hindi ram ram bhai bhai. Why don't you guys force the Pakistani Punjabis to be all ram ram with India ? Don't expats have any influence? Instead of doing chawwali left and right, why not fix punjabi and in extension, the pakistani army attitude if that is what you guys desire. Pakistan army's main recruitment center is Punjab. Expat punjabis can't be some alien species so why is there such a dichotomy?
          Say no to 'islamofascism'..

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            #6
            Re: Pakistan loses 50pc market share in Kabul - who is responsible for this?

            Originally posted by phoenixdesi View Post
            who is responsible for his colossal failure in Afghanistan? afghans hate us now, india is penetrating big time economically and strategically.

            i pointed out many times on this forum that pak army establishment is playing with fire..by supporting animals called afghan taliban we are buying hatred among common afghan masses.... but i was called anti pakistan pessimist

            and here we are. we have lost 50% of the commercial market plujs afghans hate us. what a policy! hello? who is responsible for this mess. wake up guys....

            https://www.dawn.com/news/1393106/pa...share-in-kabul
            As indicated Afghans will hate Pakistan anyways, there may have an increase in their number ... or not.

            From the article:
            India has been providing goods at subsidised rates to capture the market
            Pakistan is bound to lose market share in many other countries as Chinese goods continue to spread out, our economy has not been growing as India's has so we don't have lots of cash to throw-away.

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              #7
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              So much for strategic depth!

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                #8
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                This love / hate is blown out of proportion - and India is doing its part with massive propaganda backed by amreeka. So far 3000 Afghans received Pakistani Scolarship, They chose to live in Pak instead of India I am sure if they love India that much India can open the Wah border and we will be happy to escort them. But it will never happen for obvious reasons, the Afghans know that and so do Indians.

                Have a popcorn and relax

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                  #9
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                  There once was a prime minister who was elected 3 times and every time he said the future lies with better relations with neighbors, trade and economics. The three times he was thrown out by the self certified patriots and the three times he was called things like Modi ka yaar, Indian, Gaddar and now security risk. That is what responsible for all this. I so hope and pray these so called patriots get more lessons like 71 and Salala.




                  Originally posted by phoenixdesi View Post
                  who is responsible for his colossal failure in Afghanistan? afghans hate us now, india is penetrating big time economically and strategically.

                  i pointed out many times on this forum that pak army establishment is playing with fire..by supporting animals called afghan taliban we are buying hatred among common afghan masses.... but i was called anti pakistan pessimist

                  and here we are. we have lost 50% of the commercial market plujs afghans hate us. what a policy! hello? who is responsible for this mess. wake up guys....

                  https://www.dawn.com/news/1393106/pa...share-in-kabul

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                    #10
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                    What are you talking about? Pakistani Punjabies elected Nawaz Sharif three times who mantra has always been economics over war and good relationships with neighbours as solutions. Its the Army that happens to be mostly Punjabi that doesnt want good relations with India or their shops, bakeries, real estate will get in trouble. Yes most of the army is Punajbi but Army is a caste of its own to whom its them vs. bloody civilians. Punjabi people have done their part in electing right people, just not enough to get out on streets against the Rogue army due to their love for army like my own brother is serving. This is also changing with wave of support NS is getting in Punjab with Anti Establishment card.

                    And yes I hang out with Indians and Chinese and others here and they are just like us are People. The hate we have been taught in both countries about each other is stupid, I already am of opinion that 2 nation theory failed and was a farce and united India would be a better option based on 70 years of data. So lets not generalize Punjabies here as I know I am not alone with my thinking.

                    Originally posted by Doppleganger View Post
                    India is heavily subsidizing its exports which I don't think Pakistan should be doing at all wrt Afghanistan.

                    As for OP, I have noticed that pakistani punjabis outside the country like to hangout with indians with all that hindi ram ram bhai bhai. Why don't you guys force the Pakistani Punjabis to be all ram ram with India ? Don't expats have any influence? Instead of doing chawwali left and right, why not fix punjabi and in extension, the pakistani army attitude if that is what you guys desire. Pakistan army's main recruitment center is Punjab. Expat punjabis can't be some alien species so why is there such a dichotomy?

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                      #11
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                      oh well...deep sigh. Most of the guppies above are cursing afghans and declaring them ehsan faamosh cheap zaleel people

                      so is this the main reason for the mess that we are facing today in relation to our afghan policy? really? hello people. can we do a bit of introspection to realize that some of our actions of last 40 years may have contributed to this mess

                      we supported animals called taliban for our so called strategic reasons since 1994 and tried to impose those animals over afghans. why will afghans appreciate that part of ours? those taliban are killing innocent afgahns since 1994, blocking innocent afghan masses from enjoying their lives, banning them from playing sports, banning women from education and the list goes on and on.

                      Pakistan made wrong choices when it comes to Afghanistan and is on the wrong side of history as time will prove

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                        #12
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                        Iran supports taliban and is supporting shiite militias all over the middle east but it hasn't affected their business.

                        Aside from the anti-Pakistani attitude of the kabul govt, the main reason has been border closures. What do you expect Pakistan to do when Afghanistan's army magically can get 'ghairat' and fire on Pakistani troops and civilians moving inside Pakistan because they don't accept Durand Line? I'll let you spin that as Pakistan's fault as well. Maybe we shouldn't even reply back to not hurt afghan feelings so that they don't become hostile to us?

                        @chaudhry: There is complicity for the army POV in punjab. Remember that it was the streets of Pakistan that forced army's hand and let them to transfer power. Why can't the same street power and civil society force another change again? It isn't like imran khan is against trade with india. This is where there is convergence with nawaz sharif.
                        Last edited by Doppleganger; Mar 7, 2018, 03:51 PM.
                        Say no to 'islamofascism'..

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                          #13
                          Re: Pakistan loses 50pc market share in Kabul - who is responsible for this?

                          Originally posted by phoenixdesi View Post
                          we supported animals called taliban for our so called strategic reasons since 1994 and tried to impose those animals over afghans. why will afghans appreciate that part of ours? those taliban are killing innocent afgahns since 1994, blocking innocent afghan masses from enjoying their lives, banning them from playing sports, banning women from education and the list goes on and on.

                          Pakistan made wrong choices when it comes to Afghanistan and is on the wrong side of history as time will prove
                          you can call them animal, but what they had earlier were no less monsters and what they were going through at that time was nothing less of crisis, if they fail to recognize all that then that is not our fault. Remember Karzai was pushed up the ladder of 'democracy' against Taliban so he had to partner with anti-Pakistanis.

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                            #14
                            Re: Pakistan loses 50pc market share in Kabul - who is responsible for this?

                            What are you talking about? Pakistani Punjabies elected Nawaz Sharif three times who mantra has always been economics over war and good relationships with neighbours as solutions.
                            The Politicians/Party Chiefs of this party PML-N are allowing direct passage of Indian Goods via the GT Road, of course India's Trade with the Afghans passes through all of Northern Punjab, Peshawer and KPK to get to Kabul.

                            All the people have to do is Block those Trucks from going through. now you would think Mr Imran Khan would be the first to block Indian Goods right? well may be he is part of the pay-off collecting his share as are all the top Politicians in charge.

                            So here we have Pakistan's sworn Enemy No 1, getting free passage through Pakistan territory, allowing infiltration by the Indian agents of RAW!

                            How does that sound? like they say the Fish always starts to stink from it's Head!
                            We don't see things as they are; we see things as we are!

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