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    MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army

    And when that happens they'd be the first on the streets protesting.

    MQM chief demands handing over Karachi to army - DAWN.COM
    “The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." Albert Einstein

    #2
    Re: MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army

    lol...yeh to vohii baat huii k "aa bai'l mujhe maar!"
    Life is NOT measured by the number of breaths we take but the moments that take our breath away!!!
    16 breaths a minute, 23040 a day...NO one knows which one will be their LAST!

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      #3
      Re: MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army

      Army in Karachi: Khursheed Shah opposes MQM demand – The Express Tribune
      “The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." Albert Einstein

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        #4
        Re: MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army

        I don't think it's a matter of a laugh!!
        It's a very serious and sensetive issue. Comment about it seriously or just skip the thread.
        Sattar have points in his speech. And personally I think that central govt do not proceed it to put army in action but this appeal might be give pressure to sindh govt to take Karachi situation more seriously and do extra prompt actions to solve and get off from their hands to protect criminals Specially in Liyari area.
        What's the difference between sky and skirt ?

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          #5
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          کراچی: بھتہ خوری اور قتل و غارت گری سے پریشان سندھ کے تاجروں نے حکومت سندھ کی گمشدگی کا اشتہار اخبارات میں چھپوانے کا اعلان کر دیا ہے۔
          ایکسپریس نیوز کے نمائندے کے مطابق آل کراچی تاجر اتحاد کا اجلاس میں فیصلہ کیا گیا کہ تاجر برادری حکومت سندھ کی گمشدگی کا اشتہار اخبارات میں چھپوائے گی کیونکہ گزشتہ 5 سال سے تاجر بھتہ خوری، قتل و غارت غاری، اغوا برائے تاوان، دہشت گردی، بم دھماکوں اور تخریب کاری کے واقعات کا شکار ہیں جس سے نہ صرف ان کا بلکہ شہر اور ملک کا نقصان ہو رہا ہے لیکن پولیس اور حکومت سندھ کی جانب سے کئے گئے دعوے کارآمد ثابت نہیں ہوسکے اور حکومت سندھ کی رٹ کہیں نظر نہیں آتی۔


          تاجروں کا کہنا تھا کہ بازاروں میں کاروبار بند ہو گیا ہے اور ہر طرف خون کی ہولی کھیلی جا رہی ہے، پولیس اور رینجرز بے بس اور بے اختیار نظرآتی ہے اور حکومت نام کی کوئی چیز نظر نہیں آ رہی۔ کراچی جو کہ پورے ملک کی شہ رگ ہے میں معاشی و تجارتی سرگرمیاں جمود کا شکار ہیں، گزشتہ 10 روز میں سے صرف 6 روز کاروبار ہوا اور ہمیں 4 ارب روپے کا نقصان برداشت کرنا پڑا۔
          تاجروں کا کہنا ہے کہ ہم تمام دروازے کھٹکھٹا چکے ہیں اور ہمیں مایوسی کا سامنا کرنا پڑا اور آگے بھی ہمیں اندھیرا نظر آ رہا ہے، اسی لئے آخری کوشش کے طور پر ہم حکومت سندھ کی گمشدگی کا اعلان شائع کررہے ہیں شاید اسی کے بعد ہمارے مسائل پر کوئی توجہ دی جائے۔

          Phateechar oye....

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            #6
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            Normally I'd oppose army taking over any city but I'll support MQM over this but then MQM should be ready for its big chunk of activists to be arrested and prosecuted, they should not cry foul when that happens because lots of MQM workers are involved in all sorts of crimes, so should be PPP, ST and PTI (if rumors of them being involved are true).

            City is completely out of hand, parchi / bhatta-khori / kidnap-for-ransom / mobile-snatching-killing are peaking and police at large is involved or supporting all these crimes. Until and unless major changes are carried out in police, judiciary in Karachi / Sindh only army can provide temporary relief.

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              #7
              Re: MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army

              FATA makes sense because it is at the border and there is no police due to our f**Ked up FCR regulations that should have been abolished long ago, but why does karachi need army when it has police and paramilitary rangers? Not only does it overstretch the army, but does that mean we fire all the police and rangers since army is doing their job?

              Army's record has been mixed as well, otherwise terrorism would have been defeated, so I don't know what wonders can army do in karachi considering the fact that unlike the british army, the paindoos running the army have no brain cells to learn from their mistakes and develop a true COIN strategy. It took the army multiple setbacks against TTP (FC getting captured / surrendering to taliban) before the army "figured out" that SSG should have been dropped on TTP's head instead of trying to come by road so TTP can shoot away at you from the mountain tops. This sort of BS is unacceptable in true civilized countries.
              Say no to 'islamofascism'..

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                #8
                Re: MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army

                Originally posted by Doppleganger View Post
                FATA makes sense because it is at the border and there is no police due to our f**Ked up FCR regulations that should have been abolished long ago, but why does karachi need army when it has police and paramilitary rangers? Not only does it overstretch the army, but does that mean we fire all the police and rangers since army is doing their job?

                Army's record has been mixed as well, otherwise terrorism would have been defeated, so I don't know what wonders can army do in karachi considering the fact that unlike the british army, the paindoos running the army have no brain cells to learn from their mistakes and develop a true COIN strategy. It took the army multiple setbacks against TTP (FC getting captured / surrendering to taliban) before the army "figured out" that SSG should have been dropped on TTP's head instead of trying to come by road so TTP can shoot away at you from the mountain tops. This sort of BS is unacceptable in true civilized countries.
                Current police is part of problem. The whole police system/institution needs a thorough shake-up, reform because the current lot is totally useless. The police needs to be independent institution so it can't be pressured by political parties. For now army will be able to bring sanity to the city, but police must be reformed in parallel, only army will not be a solution.

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                  #9
                  Re: MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army

                  I dont understand the motive of MQM for inviting the army. If they want them to restore law and order in the metropolitan city, it will have to operate against all parties which are involved in terrorism there (which include MQM, Amn Committee, Taleban, LEJ, Sunni Tehreek and others). MQM is part of the problem in the city, not the solution...
                  “The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." Albert Einstein

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                    #10
                    Re: MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army

                    But MQM thinks that barring some "bad apples" who are probably ex-MQMers, it is naik paak saaf farishta.
                    Say no to 'islamofascism'..

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                      #11
                      Re: MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army

                      Originally posted by Ali_Syed View Post
                      I dont understand the motive of MQM for inviting the army. If they want them to restore law and order in the metropolitan city, it will have to operate against all parties which are involved in terrorism there (which include MQM, Amn Committee, Taleban, LEJ, Sunni Tehreek and others). MQM is part of the problem in the city, not the solution...
                      That is exactly that they are hoping for, that for some reason army will give clean chit to MQM workers but will arrest terrorists from Amn Committee, ST, LeJ, TTP, ANP etc.

                      Originally posted by Doppleganger View Post
                      But MQM thinks that barring some "bad apples" who are probably ex-MQMers, it is naik paak saaf farishta.
                      Yep, and when an operation will be carried out and their workers will be arrested they will cry foul.

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                        #12
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                        lolz NS will never agree, uss ko apni fikr par jani ha by the way the present circumstances demand army there if they can clean Sindh, but its not matter of few years it is a long process but we really need peace there, ppl like me who visited Karachi only in childhood don't want to go there, my huby maternal side lives in Karachi I didn't let him go, and there are many ppl like me who dont want to go there, I wish we can go to any part of our country without fear

                        but present circumstances suggest as if terrorists are entering in Punjab also, so I don't think so tht you will give whole country under army, its high time of government to do something about it, abhi sirf MQM ne kaha you never know kal sub parties bol rahin ho
                        Meri hasti may ANAA hay meri masti may shaaoor ...

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                          #13
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                          Army is not the solution especially in a big metropolitan city like Karachi. They will get bogged down there. Its upto the politicians to sit together and get us out of this menace. Empowering/Depoliticizing the police is the only way out. Its about time we learnt to live and let live.
                          “The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." Albert Einstein

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                            #14
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                            you know it could just be reverse psychology stunt by tafu bhai
                            We are all in the same game, just different levels•
                            Dealing with the same hell, just different devils•

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                              #15
                              Re: MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army

                              Originally posted by Ali_Syed View Post
                              Army is not the solution especially in a big metropolitan city like Karachi. They will get bogged down there. Its upto the politicians to sit together and get us out of this menace. Empowering/Depoliticizing the police is the only way out. Its about time we learnt to live and let live.
                              Time has proven that politicians are NOT sitting together. They are NOT getting us out of this menace. They are NOT empowering/deploticizing the police.
                              The city can not let be destroyed due to the failure of politicians. There are not just political parties and workers living there, but there are also common people, common business owners, living there as well. What is their fault that they have to bear the brunt of the failure of Sindh government?
                              kahoon kis se mein ye ja kar, meri qaum e bad-guloo ne
                              mujhe qatl kar diya he, ba-gunah e khush nawaai
                              - Josh

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