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    #16
    Powell's Thapar to India?

    See this beta:
    http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/300702/editor/ed1.htm

    SECRETARY Powell's observations at the end of his tour of India and Pakistan on Sunday were at times so circumspect that they gave the impression he was taking pains not to ruffle Indian feathers even at the cost of clarity and directness. There can be no other explanation for making the demand that Pakistan should do more to stop infiltration in Held Kashmir, while saying in the same breath that "we still do not have evidence whether infiltration has been stopped on a permanent basis or not and we are assessing the situation carefully". Clearly, the call is unjustified when the US is not in a position to confirm the facts on the ground and, especially, in the face of President Musharraf's unambiguous statement that no such crossborder movement was taking place. Aboard the plane, on way to Bangkok, he also made the unfortunate remark in this context "...if we actually do see what President Musharraf is assuring us of." But then not to accept assurances at face value coming from the highest level in Pakistan has become a norm even with US middle ranking officials, let alone the Secretary of State.
    The biggest thapar is for Mushy. Mushy says no infiltration in front of Powell. Powell says, that is not true...

    Thapar city...

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      #17
      Indians are confused, first Pak should join India, then Pak should be destroyed...Indians are very confused, they don't know what they want.

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        #18
        Originally posted by RealDeal:
        Indians are confused, first Pak should join India, then Pak should be destroyed...Indians are very confused, they don't know what they want.





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          #19


          India has not let international humanitarian agencies and foreign correspondents go into the Valley ever since the freedom struggle began in an attempt to hide its ugly acts of suppression which have not spared even innocent civilians. Besides, foreign presence would expose rigging practices. Pakistan has done well to reiterate that these polls cannot be a substitute for the plebiscite promised by India at the UNSC.


          U.S Policies

          (Powell)His advice to allow foreign observers to monitor the polls in Kashmir and release political prisoners is not likely to be taken seriously by New Delhi nor is Washington likely to pursue the matter.
          Pakistan is aware of that

          You ain't gonna manipulate us so easily


          Question Who's not a fair in dealing with the situation? No sincerity. No Peace by all means.

          You can bank on it!

          [This message has been edited by Pakistani Tiger (edited August 01, 2002).]

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            #20
            Originally posted by Talwar:
            Powell's Thapar to India?:
            chanda, why are your leaders crying and all if they dinn feel a boot up their behind?

            now read this munnay..and weep
            http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...e_as/powell_21
            The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist. And like that... he is gone.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Fraudz:
              chanda, why are your leaders crying and all if they dinn feel a boot up their behind?

              now read this munnay..and weep
              http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...e_as/powell_21
              Speaking of boots...it seems to have changed the name of a very speacial person to Busharraf!lol!

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                #22
                Originally posted by Chaltahai:
                Speaking of boots...it seems to have changed the name of a very speacial person to Busharraf!lol!

                and a "special person" to Randvani
                The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist. And like that... he is gone.

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                  #23
                  Fraudia..Good one!!! Randvani!!! ROFTL!!!! aur woh bhi bhooka Randvani

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                    #24
                    Talwars stupidity never ceases to amaze me... Talwar, im still waiting for the constituition that died with the Quaid...

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Spock:
                      Talwars stupidity never ceases to amaze me... Talwar, im still waiting for the constituition that died with the Quaid...
                      must not be a sharp talwar
                      The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist. And like that... he is gone.

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                        #26
                        pakistanis dont you feel the heat around the capitals of the world . image of pakistan
                        and its peaceful nature of its commmon people
                        is destroyed. not only the elites brought
                        misery to people of afgganistan brought down the image of pakistan .all these for what to get kashmir?

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Fraudz:
                          must not be a sharp talwar
                          Very blunt indeed

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Spock:
                            Very blunt indeed
                            may even be a chakhoo and not a talwar
                            The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist. And like that... he is gone.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by rvikz:
                              pakistanis dont you feel the heat around the capitals of the world . image of pakistan
                              and its peaceful nature of its commmon people
                              is destroyed. not only the elites brought
                              misery to people of afgganistan brought down the image of pakistan .all these for what to get kashmir?
                              Blame us for everything that goes wrong in Bharat too...

                              btw... This from jang... This just proves that India is a big yellow bellied coward...

                              Delhi intends to block Islamabad's entry into Asean group


                              By Jawed Naqvi

                              NEW DELHI, July 31: India set on Wednesday the return to democracy by Pakistan as a key condition to allow Islamabad to become a member of the Asean (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) Regional Forum (ARF).

                              Analysts said the move appeared to rekindle a similar acrimony when India stalled a South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (Saarc) summit on the same grounds only to become the first country later to recognize Gen Pervez Musharraf as Pakistan's new constitutional head.

                              India eventually allowed the Saarc summit in Kathmandu to take place but not before inviting President Musharraf for summit talks in Agra with Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee, where the status of Pakistan's proximity to democracy was not known to have worried the two sides much, analysts said.

                              News reports from Brunei quoted Indian Foreign Secretary Kanwal Sibal as saying that New Delhi would block any move to evolve a consensus required to accept Pakistan as a member of the 23-nation security group, a powerful club in which the United States has a major say, pressing particularly for a coalition against terrorism.

                              The Asean, host of the annual forum of countries with security interests in the region, sees the standoff between the nuclear-armed rivals as the biggest threat to peace in Asia.

                              Some Asean countries have said they would welcome Pakistan as a member of the forum, but cannot overcome Indian objections.

                              "There has to be a consensus," Sibal told reporters after the two-day meeting began. "The consensus will have to include India's viewpoint." "We will see if Pakistan becomes a democratic and moderate state and if Pakistan gives up its policy of using terrorism as an instrument of state policy," Sibal said. "Then Pakistan's ambition to join this grouping or another grouping will be looked at in a certain light," Sibal said. "It is not an issue at this ARF meeting."

                              News reports said although the regional security meeting has been dominated by US efforts to sign an anti-terrorism treaty with Asean and a resumption of talks between the US and the two Koreas, the India-Pakistan standoff has nonetheless ranked high among foreign ministers' concerns.

                              "Although there are signs of reduction of tension, there is still concern about it," Malaysian Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar said. "We hope both sides will be able to resolve the issues and reduce the tension in the area."

                              Indian Foreign Minister Yashwant Sinha said there was no need for the meeting to focus on the India-Pakistan conflict, but several countries raised it during the first full session.

                              US Secretary of State Colin Powell put the focus directly on Kashmir last week describing it as a key issue between the countries, which was of concern to the international community. However, Sibal told journalists in Brunei after a 10-minute meeting that Powell had with External Affairs Minister Yashwant Sinha, that the American official had stressed his remarks should be seen in the context of the subject being of international interest.

                              He quoted Powell as having said that his "international agenda" remark made in New Delhi on Sunday was not in reference to a solution (to Kashmir issue) which "you (India and Pakistan) will have to find yourselves," PTI said.

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                                #30
                                spock that is the game both play. we are in competion, i dont know for what, but we do
                                this silly thing to each other.

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