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    Foreign Hand Behind the Karachi Bombing

    Latest reports coming out from Karachi police suggest that the bomb was planted inside a car owned by a driving school located near the US consulate. A remote control device detonated it while four women, riding that car, were returning after taking their driving tests. The reason I am making this point is based on the amount of sophistication, which lead to this attack:

    Continuous surveillance of all the vehicles passing on daily basis at a certain time in front of the consulate and then pin pointing the one that can be easily used to carry the bomb seem to suggest that some highly skilled agency was behind the planning. This attack has the fingerprints of Mossad all over it, which is notorious for similar kind operations. It reminded me of Beirut and Palestine where numerous mujahideens and opponents have fallen prey to such attacks which follow the same kind of pattern. Whether, itís booby-trapping cellular phones of victims, setting up cars with explosives of opponents thousands of miles away when they are least expecting; there is always a high level of sophistication in Mossadís operation and this was no exception. Vigilantly planning such an operation and then using RAW agents in Karachi to do the dirty work: thatís how this attack was most likely planned and carried out.

    No other countries are likely to gain more due to internal instability of Pakistan than India and Israel. Involvement of Mossad across the LoC in assisting India against the mujahideens has been well known to the Pakistani intelligence agencies for quite some time. It has been aggressively helping India in deploying artillery radars, electronic sensors and UAVs in the occupied parts of Kashmir and now an attack such as this to deliver a blow to the economic and internal stability, which Pakistan has been enjoying recently. RAW and Mossad nexus has found a perfect cover for their operation in the form of Muslim extremists. Last thing we need is to play the enemyís game by overlooking all the facts.



    [This message has been edited by Abdullah k (edited June 15, 2002).]

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      #3
      Originally posted by Nagarjuna:
      .. same expresion we have when Pak is accused of cross border infiltartion where as Kashmiri lovcal peopel r fighting for their rights..
      Saints are fine for Heaven, but they are hell on earth.

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        #4
        I agree, now India and Israel are working together and India is using the latter to somehow overhaul its crappy intelligence agency to strike the Pakistani heartland much more effectively...

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          #5

          I beg to differ.

          Before Pakistan points fingers to the outside, it might want to take a look at the kind of monsters that exist within it's own state.

          Pakistan's own intellience agency has quite openly expressed differences of opinion with regard to many of Musharraf's policies regarding Afghanistan and Kashmir; especially his tendency to conform to the tunes set by the US. This rebel faction within the ISI includes highly ranked officials who have been involved in the Afghan war since more than a decade, and are highly adept in sabotage, having been trained by none other than the US.

          Also, when there are so many saboteurs trained to cause disruptions in the kashmir valley walking around within Pakistan with pride, such blasts are likely each time Musharraf makes a move that displeases them. Currently, it is the move to plug the LoC preventing their infiltration into the valley. This group is well represented by the Daniel Pearl murder.

          It is quite unlikely that Israel or India would choose to bomb a US consulate, especially when they are aware that such an attack would be fully investigated by US intelligence agencies. Israel has everything to lose by gaining US displeasure, and India is hoping fervently that the US would take it's side with regard to the Kashmir issue.

          IMHO, this is yet another case of the chicken coming home to roost. Training and arming militants is something that has a huge risk of backfiring, and this has been happening quite briskly over the last six months in Pakistan.
          Simple ain't easy.

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            #6
            queer,
            so a blast occurs in Pakistan or India Pakistan is to blame ? India is so innocent It has never interfered in Paksitan's internal affairs?
            Saints are fine for Heaven, but they are hell on earth.

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              #7
              Queer, you can beg all you want... Even if we post some thread highlighting Pakistan developing something good, you always beg to differ... Dont count your country to be a friend of Pakistan buddy... You are the prime suspects, no matter how much you beg...

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                #8
                Originally posted by queer:

                It is quite unlikely that Israel or India would choose to bomb a US consulate, especially when they are aware that such an attack would be fully investigated by US intelligence agencies. Israel has everything to lose by gaining US displeasure, and India is hoping fervently that the US would take it's side with regard to the Kashmir issue.
                Exactly, this is the main reason why PAKISTANIS and not US citizens died... If it were the Al-Qaeda, they wouldnt have targetted this anywayz, since this counsulate was non-operational and the only people to be targetted would have been Pakistanis, and sadly, they were all Pakistanis...

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                  #9

                  Are you suggesting that a bomb attack on the US consulate wouldnt warrant an enquiry from the US intelligence agencies unless it involved american deaths?

                  Non-operational consulate? There were Americans in there, one of who was injured in the blast.

                  Also, given that the bomb was extremely powerful, highly unlikely anyone could have predicted who the poor victims would be.

                  al-qaida wouldnt harm pakistanis? especially after 98.7% of those who seemed to have a voice endorsed musharraf despite his policies regarding afghanistan? think again.
                  Simple ain't easy.

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                    #10
                    Queer, this counsulate was non-operational, and there wouldnt be many US citizens here, and the one who got injured was some security incharge or something... If it were the Al-Qaeda, they would have attacked the one in Islamabad, now that was full of American citizens... Apparently, the RAW/Mossad pair found a security loophole in Karachi, and decided this would be a great time to exploit Pakistans affairs, and prove to the whole world that they are supporting terrorism... Care to explain that hijack drama that you guys put up?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Spock:
                      Queer, this counsulate was non-operational, and there wouldnt be many US citizens here, and the one who got injured was some security incharge or something...
                      Again, how do u explain ten pakistanis and no indians dying? Were the US citizens wearing some sort of defensive shields provided to them by the Mossad? If it were the Al-Qaeda, they would have attacked the one in Islamabad, now that was full of American citizens... Apparently, the RAW/Mossad pair found a security loophole in Karachi, and decided this would be a great time to exploit Pakistans affairs, and prove to the whole world that they are supporting terrorism... Care to explain that hijack drama that you guys put up?

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                        #12
                        Here is a Pak author angry at the free movement of terrorists within Pakistan.
                        http://jang.com.pk/thenews/jun2002-d...02/oped/o2.htm

                        Burnished gold

                        Kamran Shafi

                        Readers will recall that several weeks ago I had advised our completely out of it Interior Minister not to try too hard to relax visa restrictions for tourists to visit Pakistan, for considering the completely wild place our country has become, no one would want to, anyway. I had also said that our visas were already so easy to obtain that the worst people in the world, its dregs even, particularly those of the West: petty crooks; common thieves; scoundrels of the first water; could walk in and out of the Islamic Republic with the utmost ease, and with utter alacrity. Witness, I had said, the beauty called Richard Reid, a petty criminal and wannabe shoe-bomber, who too was given several visas to visit The Land of the Pure. I had suggested then that the military (shurely shome mishtake, as Private Eye would put it) government should at the very least investigate the circumstances under which this lovely was allowed an entry visa. And to punish those responsible, so that unsavoury characters such as this man would never again be allowed to set foot in Pakistan.

                        It is obvious that no action was taken against the Pakistani Embassy concerned, against the visa officer who issued Reid his visa, for, barely three months down the line, our country's name is up there in bright neon one more time. This time around, another petty criminal and minor gangster, a convicted mugger and robber, an accessory to murder, a Puerto Rican called Jose Padilla aka Abdullah al Muhajir has been hauled up in the United States for being part of a plot to make and explode a 'dirty bomb' in some population centre or other. Where did he plan the dastardly deed? Pakistan! Where did he meet his buddies-in-crime? Pakistan! If the little crook Reid's connection to Pakistan gold-plated our country's name, then Padilla's connection to it burnished it to a brilliant shine. As we say in the vernacular: Sonay pay Suhaga.

                        Yes sirs, every single day brings more shame upon the country , if for nothing else, then for being the "soft" country it is; indeed, for the "soft touch" it has been allowed to become. And only because people in authority will simply not take their jobs seriously; only because no action is taken against them even when they commit acts of very serious omission.

                        Consider please, and for the sake of argument, let us put aside the US government's accusations against Padilla of being a wannabe "dirty bomber". The question for every Pakistani to ask is how in the world this man got into our fair country? The question for the (military, no less) government to ask its Foreign Ministry and Interior Ministry minions is why, in the first instance, this man was allowed a visa? As in the case of Reid, what exactly about Padilla recommended him to the visa officer who issued him an entry permit? Was it his looks? Was it the fact that he was a foreign investor interested in bidding for the Oil and Gas Development Corporation? Was he someone wanting to buy United Bank Limited? What in the world was it about him that got him a visa? Did he even look like a tourist? Will somebody please find out before we land ourselves in hotter water? Isn't it about time, now that we have seemingly averted a nuclear exchange with our neighbour, that we should try a little bit to make our country a less "soft" place? But no, no one will listen even now, even in the face of the increased shame we face every single day.

                        Let us therefore, go to other matters. There is much talk in our press as to the likely replacement for Abdul Sattar, our Foreign Minister (what did I say just a few weeks ago: that if the FO was strenuously denying that Sattar was on the way out, that he was on the way out!), one of the names being bandied about being that of General Tanvir Naqvi, the Chief Architect of the Devolution Plan (which a senior and respected friend calls the 'Devilish Plan'). No, please, no. There is only one post to which someone as eminent as General Naqvi can be appointed to after his stint at the NRB -- that of Prime Minister of Pakistan. I'll tell you why.

                        Since he has created the jinns, let him control them when they are about to come into their own, when they are about to go completely wild. Just you wait for the tamasha of the elections, and the bigger tamasha after the elections when the assemblies (such as they will be, the major political parties ham-strung, the tonga parties sitting in the military government's lap) come into being. Just you wait for the fire-works when the Nazims Bahadur (many elected on the coat-tails of the major parties) will attempt to control the MNAs and the MPAs of their Districts, elected as they will be because they pay allegiance to one or the other of the tonga party "leaders". Lordy, will that be fun. There will be complete mayhem, such as even we, inured as we are to all sorts of mayhem have never ever seen. Tanvir Naqvi himself needs, indeed deserves, to be there, holding the baby: his own baby. He needs to be put on the spot to mother his own monster. It will be just too easy to let him off the hook, and to let him sit prettily as Foreign Minister, or Senate Chairman, smugly looking on as the future Prime Minister, poor thing, runs hither and yon trying to control the jinns. General Musharraf must do this, so that he will at last understand the demon that he has allowed Tanvir Naqvi to create.

                        Which brings me to ask if the military government has really added the costs, or the minuses, of Benazir Bhutto's return to Pakistan before the elections? What will the military government do? Mon General tells us he will simply put her in jail. On what charges, pray? The Nicholas (variously, the Neckless, Neklace, et al) charge? Which charge, when the Supreme Court itself has set aside the one conviction of the Lahore High Court, and as an upshot of which two judges, one of the Lahore High Court, and one of the Supreme Court of Pakistan had to resign in disgrace? Just because they did what the great, and now former thank God, Senator Saifur Rehman wanted them to do? What charge will the military government arrest her on? Even if it does, how long will it arrest her for? Do the present powers that be even understand that Benazir can fight an election from jail in the absence of a conviction? That, even if they have proof, it will take them years to convict her?

                        Well, what if she wins the elections while in jail, awaiting trial? What then? Has anyone thought of the consequences? Does Mein General now understand how very wrong he went when he embraced the likes of the Chaudhries of the House of Zahoor, those who stole billions from the poor in the Co-ops scam, and went after selected people only? When he clasped to his bosom, the Yahoos of the PML (L), criminals of the worst kind most of them, mindless of what he was being made to do by his "buddies"?

                        Isn't it time then, that General Musharraf took a very new look at where he has landed the country and himself? Isn't it time to pull (I am echoing someone else here) this whole accountability thing out of the filthy well of nepotism and to put it on fairer, more equitable footing? Where everyone, be he or she Sindhi or Pathan, Punjabi or Baloch, are on the same level? Come on, sir, do it even now. Give this country a New Deal. Lift yourself above politics (despite the referendum), and go down in our country's annals as one of our very few heroes. You can do it.

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                          #13
                          The going rate for a Kashmiri in POK to get a "VISA" to get out of Pakistan and into US is 5 Lakh Ruppees.

                          THe criminality and lawlessness recive official patronage selectively because of 'Political' reasons.

                          As you sow so shall you reap!!!

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                            #14
                            Talwar: I am not sure what kind of information you were able to derive out of this article, but this crack-pot can't even put couple of decent sentences together. Advising government on foreign affairs is a far-fledged fantasy. This guy should be shot not for what he wrote but for being a journalist with such poor writing skills.

                            Queer: Discipline is the back-bone of Pakistani military and intelligence establishments. Indians are only eluding themseleves if they think there is a rift in the hierarchical structure of command in different agencies.

                            If the terrorists wanted to destroy the embassy, the minds which went behind planning this operation could have easily found an alternative method of delivering more powerful explosives. Detonating this bomb in front of the US consulate was mere symbolic. Actual motive was to bring bad press publicity to Pakistan while it's trying to overcome the effects of the last explosion only few blocks away. RAW may or may not have been capable of such an operation, but Mossad sure is. Israel has gotten away in the past with belligerently spying on the US. Another proof of such success is the unveiling of reports which indicates that Israel has deployed nuke laden cruise missiles on its submarines. Only couple of years ago, Israel was begging the US for Tomohawks. It got what it wanted; either by 'stealing' the sensitive technology or through mutual coveted transfer agreement. Point being, Israel is running the show in the US, literally.

                            [This message has been edited by Abdullah k (edited June 15, 2002).]

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                              #15
                              Talwar, we all can safely say that you are not the sharpest sword[talwar]in here.

                              So, please, stick to the truth because it looks like you cannot afford to.

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