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    Vajpayee does a climbdown, gives a "deadline" and goes on a break

    After all the bravado about war over the last few days, it seems Vajpayee's knees have given way again. He has now decided to go on a weekend break in the Himalayan foothills, after giving Pakistan a two month deadline "to crack down on Islamic militants before considering military action."

    Another great Indian climbdown after threatening war and destruction...coming in a long line of sorry and pathethic climbdown's by India.

    [This message has been edited by Malik73 (edited May 24, 2002).]

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    Whatever you may say, India has succeded in convincing the West/Pakistan that it may attack (irrespective of lower nuclear threshold of Pak) if cross-border terrorism continues. West has already started arm-twisting Musharraf and he will most probably comply. Also there is no harm in keeping the Pak army occupied for longer duration on all the fronts - eastern, western, domestic, international.

    On the other side of coin, if this is the outlook of our, so-delcared by Pakistan, extremist leaders, one could easily imagine with moderates in the lead.

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      #3
      mallik if we can get musharuff to to do what we
      want that is stop cross-border terrorism
      without going to war it is good for both.
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      India has found the key to making the Musharraf government do what it wants: threats of war. The government must learn that it has to draw the line in the sand somewhere. It should also not try to wriggle out on any commitments it makes, because it only ends up being found out, forced to comply, and gains no credit for its unwilling cooperation. http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/today/editor/opi1.htm

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        #4
        It is good to see that the Hinduvta leadership of India has seen sense in not going to war against a nation that is fully prepared to give it a bloody nose.

        As many analysts have said, a war against Pakistan would not serve India's purpose. It could get India in a situation that it may regret as it has continued to underestimate the Pakistani defense capabilities and the damage it could do to the Indian infrastructure - putting it back at least two decades even in a conventional war. Nice to see good sense has prevailed.

        Rvikz, it is all very well blaming Musharaf for all Indian ills, but your nation has to take some responsibility. For example, what are the 700,000 Indian troops doing in Indian occupied Kashmir?

        It maybe the case that in two months time nothing may have changed at the ground level in Kashmir, and the indigenous Kashmiri struggle continues? Would the Hinduvta leadership once again go on a chest beating exercise? If the Indian think that war is the solution, then it would have done it by now. A million Indian soldiers sitting on the border in the heat, and not knowing what is going on will only help in further lowering their moral.

        Lookslike, the tea party due to be held at the Lahore Gymkhana by the Indian army Majors would need to be postponed indefinitely.

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          #5
          Rvikz, it is all very well blaming Musharaf for all Indian ills, but your nation has to take some responsibility. For example, what are the 700,000 Indian troops doing in Indian occupied Kashmir?

          it our territory we can deploy . if you dont like send in your regular paksitani soldiers.

          also take advise from un and us


          Pakistan pressured over Kashmir
          The United States and the United Nations have urged Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf to take action to defuse the tension in Kashmir
          http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/wor...00/2005259.stm

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            #6
            Malik, when you keep a list of climbdowns by India, add on to Pakistan's list also after a complete U-turn in Afghanistan, it is turn of Kashmir's climbdown. Have you gone through Rvizk's link. I will give you an excerpt of a climbdown :-

            Pakistan had always held that it was physically and morally impossible to stop the Azad Kashmiris helping their brethren across the LoC. Now, the Cabinet has declared that no soil defended by Pakistan (thus including Azad Kashmir) will be used for any terrorist activity. Thus Pakistan has once again buckled under the threat of force. The Taliban perhaps deserved to be betrayed, but the Kashmiris? Well, maybe they too deserve it, for they want independence, not to join Pakistan.

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              #7
              [QUOTE]Originally posted by 2bornot2b:
              As many analysts have said, a war against Pakistan would not serve India's purpose. It could get India in a situation that it may regret as it has continued to underestimate the Pakistani defense capabilities and the damage it could do to the Indian infrastructure - putting it back at least two decades even in a conventional war.

              Would you mind quoting a few of these many analysts (if they are other than Pakistanis)

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                #8
                Originally posted by dhir:
                [B...Would you mind quoting a few of these many analysts (if they are other than Pakistanis)...[/B]
                Please do a search on the western media from last 18 months and this board. At the moment I am busy replying to Indians on this board that continue to advocate the vile act of Rape.

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                  #9
                  Musharraf, who like Vajpayee faces domestic pressure to stand up to his rival, said in an interview he did not want war.

                  "We hope good sense prevails on all sides... We would like to cooperate, certainly, because we don't want war," Musharraf told the British Broadcasting Corporation http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...asia_106753_13

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                    #10
                    Vajpayee has predictably climbed down - what a surprise. Someone should tell this Hindutva twerp not to build castles in the sky in the first place. Mood is hardening in Pakistan and Hindutvas need to stop playing games. Pakistan is withdrawing troops from the eastern borders with Afghanistan and from Sierra Lionne.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by dhir:
                      Whatever you may say, India has succeded in convincing the West/Pakistan that it may attack (irrespective of lower nuclear threshold of Pak) if cross-border terrorism continues.

                      All it has done yet again is convince the world that as the largest "democracy" in the world, it is is the largest and most irresponsible of all with it's threats of war that threaten a nuclear holocaust. As in December/January the Indians marched its army to the border, threaten this and that, and then had to back down once again thanks to the crafty and skillfull responseof Pakistan. It has put extra international spotlight on the Kashmir dispute (a term he international media are fond of using now), and India's crimes there. The Americans are no doubt not pleased that India has tried on more than one occassion since 9/11 to divert international attention, and Pakistani resources from the 'war on terrorism'.

                      Pakistan has once again got the chance to demonstrate that it will always continue to provide moral and diplomatic support to the Kashmiri people, and the Indians know what that means.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Judge^MentuLL:
                        ...Someone should tell this Hindutva twerp not to build castles in the sky in the first place. Mood is hardening in Pakistan and Hindutvas need to stop playing games...

                        Indeed. The words like 'Decisive Battle' will comeback to haunt the Hinduvta leadership of India.

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                          #13
                          indians really need to pull up their socks and try having sum peace talks..if not then they shud atleast stop threatening us...this is not a joke....wars are not jokes...for them mayb..thts y they got their buts kicked in the two wars they lost...and as for the 71 bengladesh was on their side otherwise they never cud have won..so they shud just cut the crap!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Judge^MentuLL:
                            Vajpayee has predictably climbed down - what a surprise. Someone should tell this Hindutva twerp not to build castles in the sky in the first place. Mood is hardening in Pakistan and Hindutvas need to stop playing games. Pakistan is withdrawing troops from the eastern borders with Afghanistan and from Sierra Lionne.

                            If vajpayee, is able to help stop the militancy in kashmir, without engaging a war, I guess it would be his biggest victory because this was what he has been asking from Pakistan since long.

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                              #15
                              Pressure on Pakistan as India Softens War Talk http://my.netscape.com/corewidgets/n...32305000296826

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