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    #16
    Originally posted by Pakistani Tiger:
    Duh! ISI

    Play Your Game - Guess My Motto
    huh?

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      #17
      Originally posted by RealDeal:
      huh?
      What?

      Live & Let Live

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        #18
        Originally posted by Pakistani Tiger:
        What?

        Live & Let Live
        Who?

        Also realdeal since the Army controls everything. I bet it was because of them that BB came to power. So she can't have been a democractically elected leader. Such an idiot you are. Force be weak in you.
        You can't fix stupid. So might as well troll them!

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          #19
          So BB is Army's puppet too?

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            #20
            Hey if the Army rigs every elections - which Real deal has said. The yes she is!

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            Iím just a freedom fighter
            No remorse
            Raging on in holy war
            Soon thereíll come a day
            When youíre face to face with me
            You can't fix stupid. So might as well troll them!

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              #21
              Originally posted by CM:
              Who?

              Also realdeal since the Army controls everything. I bet it was because of them that BB came to power. So she can't have been a democractically elected leader. Such an idiot you are. Force be weak in you.

              Empty rhetoric, plain insults and twists on movie lines don't change the REALITY

              When COAS Aslam Beg himself said ISI distributed funds to anti-PPP parties who the hell are you to argue?!!!

              YOu really thing Leghari and GIK could have dismissed her without Army approval?!!

              FACT is BB was so popular then even Army couldn't stop her! Scoff if you want but her HUGE Lahore meeting is just ONE example!

              Perhaps you should find out the FACTS
              before you start barking again!




              [This message has been edited by RealDeal (edited May 14, 2002).]

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                #22
                If the editorial (May 15,2002) in nation is anything to go by, BB may be Back!
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                http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/today/editor/ed3.htm
                Partyless polls

                The report that the government is being advised to hold the October election on partyless basis, will come as surprise to many, particularly when General Musharraf himself has declared, on more than one occasion, that the elections will be on party basis. The advice may tempt the government because of two recent developments. One is about a perceived resurgence of PPP at the grassroots and the other is the rather poor result of attempts to cobble together a viable anti-PPP coalition. The implication of the PPP emerging as a majority party, as seen by some policy planners in the government, is that they may be able to block some of the moves of the present regime, such as in the field of constitutional amendments, or may become too powerful to handle by the President, who has already warned, perhaps with this contingency in mind, of the harmful consequences of a Parliament out of harmony with him.
                This may be a hark-back to the partyless polls that Zia held in 1985 to control the National Assembly. He failed, because once elected, the members joined hands and formed the Muslim League. If those who are suggesting partyless polls believe that the announcement of partyless polls would provoke the PPP or the PML to boycott the elections and thus the Kingís parties with a walkover, they may be in for a disappointment. The chances are that the opposition parties, especially the PPP, would contest the polls anyway and re-emerge as proper parties in Parliament. The governmentís advisers may also be over-confident about their ability to make PPP members to cross the floor once in the House.
                Holding partyless polls would also damage the governmentís own image. The referendum has already eroded the governmentís credibility at home and abroad. The holding of partyless polls would erode it still further. The US State Department, when asked to comment on the validity of the referendum, said that it is looking towards the October elections. If a shadow is now cast on the elections too, any claim by Pakistan to democratic credentials would become suspect in the eyes of the world. The government should devote more energy to holding a credible election, with a result acceptable to winner and loser alike, rather than engage in ultimately futile attempts at manipulation.


                [This message has been edited by OldLahori (edited May 14, 2002).]

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                  #23
                  Andhra.
                  Your problem is not with Pakistans internal affairs.

                  Your problem is immaturity, and I for one am getting tired of it. I suggest you change your tactics soon.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Akif:
                    Andhra.
                    Your problem is not with Pakistans internal affairs.

                    Your problem is immaturity, and I for one am getting tired of it. I suggest you change your tactics soon.

                    Hey leave Andhra alone,he's entertaining!

                    You have to admit, he adds a certain 'je nai sai qoui'(pardon the bad French) to the forum!

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by RealDeal:

                      Empty rhetoric, plain insults and twists on movie lines don't change the REALITY

                      When COAS Aslam Beg himself said ISI distributed funds to anti-PPP parties who the hell are you to argue?!!!

                      YOu really thing Leghari and GIK could have dismissed her without Army approval?!!

                      FACT is BB was so popular then even Army couldn't stop her! Scoff if you want but her HUGE Lahore meeting is just ONE example!

                      Perhaps you should find out the FACTS
                      before you start barking again!

                      [This message has been edited by RealDeal (edited May 14, 2002).]
                      Weeeeeeeee...that was fun. Now lets see, so the army did not rig the elections in which BB won power? Oh my Gawd!! How can that be. From all that you say they meddle in Politics all the time. I bet when NS came to power they rigged that as well right?

                      ------------------
                      Iím just a freedom fighter
                      No remorse
                      Raging on in holy war
                      Soon thereíll come a day
                      When youíre face to face with me
                      You can't fix stupid. So might as well troll them!

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by OldLahori:
                        If the editorial (May 15,2002) in nation is anything to go by, BB may be Back!
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                        LOL.

                        Play Your Game - Guess My Motto


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                          #27
                          Originally posted by CM:
                          Weeeeeeeee...that was fun. Now lets see, so the army did not rig the elections in which BB won power? Oh my Gawd!! How can that be. From all that you say they meddle in Politics all the time. I bet when NS came to power they rigged that as well right?


                          You just don't get it do you?!!

                          Even ex-COAS Beg said ISI fixes elections, so again who are you to argue with him.

                          Army has always messed with democracy so its weak and people don't develop a 'affection' for it. Then they of course can satisfy their power urges and take over.

                          The Army doesn't always get its way in elections they try to rig. Again the first BB election is a perfect example,then COAS has admitted as much, but you continue to deny it!

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                            #28
                            Sorry to join the fun so late, but referendum was a mistake by Mushy's overenthusiastic strategists.

                            It shamelessly reminded people that they have no say about the person/policies that rules them.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Andhra:
                              Now that all the noise is over and Perveez Mushraaf is the darling of Pakistanis according to the ballot, can enlightened Guppies enlighten me in turn and tell me what this Referendum actually acheived for Pakistan?
                              Well, we have acheived a huge price increase in the rates of petrol and diesel for one!
                              You Indians can never beat us because we do it ourselves!

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by RealDeal:
                                You have to admit, he adds a certain 'je nai sai qoui'(pardon the bad French) to the forum!
                                Your pardoned!
                                By the way, what did you want to say en francais?

                                I think that you should stop discussing the issue of the interference of the army in the election process with the likes of those whom you have been doing so in this forum, as they will never budge from their preconcieved notions and believe in what has actually transpired.Thank God that Aslam Beg came out with that statement of his regarding the funding of the ISI for the IJI, otherwise people would have asked proof of that too!

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