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  • Pakistani Tiger
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    Originally posted by RealDeal:
    PT - you don't support that particular idea, you support Mushie (for whatever reason!)

    There is a difference between the two!
    O.K explain Democracy to me dear

    [B}Take Your Best Shot At Me[/B]

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  • RealDeal
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    PT - you don't support that particular idea, you support Mushie (for whatever reason!)

    There is a difference between the two!

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  • mo293
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    Originally posted by Pakistani Tiger:
    Referrendum is Democracy. Precisely

    Pakistan Zindabad
    I second that

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  • Pakistani Tiger
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    Referrendum is Democracy. Precisely

    Pakistan Zindabad

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  • RealDeal
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    Internet polls are ahrdly scientific, professional polls. Even CNN says this of their polls.

    The ARY poll, and others like the one here only test the opinion of a small section of Pakistanis, many of whom don't live in Pak.

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  • ehsan
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    Originally posted by RealDeal:
    You seem to be missing the point. It is not the views of politicans we are worried about. The reason people don't like this idea is because (a) they already know the result (b) they are not being given a choice.
    Not really, the choice is YES or NO, if you don't like him you are entitled to vote no, so it is very democratic. The internet poll being conducted by ARY is showing a yes vote of 76% at the moment.


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  • RealDeal
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    You seem to be missing the point. It is not the views of politicans we are worried about. The reason people don't like this idea is because (a) they already know the result (b) they are not being given a choice.

    This is not someone who people voted in , and is having a referendum on a single issue.
    It is someone who forced his rule on us.

    The referendum is an attempt to legitimize Musharraf's regime in the eyes of the world, to capitalize on Pakistanis' anxieties in these uncertain times, and to ensure that any future elected government in the country remains firmly under the thumb of the dictator. Musharraf is hoping the world (and Pakistanis) will accept the referendum as the equivalent of a free and fair election.

    There are crucial differences between a referendum and an election, the most significant of which is this: in an election, voters get to choose between two (or more) leaders or parties. If they disapprove of one, they can pick the other. But Musharraf's referendum offers no real alternatives.

    Mushie has already shown his contempt for Pakistan's constitution, its civilians, judiciary and the basic rules of democracy. So if he doesn't get the endorsement he desires, there's no guarantee that he will hand over power to an elected government. If effect, he's telling Pakistanis: If you vote for me that would be nice. If you don't, screw you.


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  • tshombe39
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    Referendum is Democracy


    Referendum is a democratic process of ascertaining the verdict of the people on a single point agenda. The people are directly involved without the intermediary MNA or MPA. It has been practiced in the past by all democratic bodies, even by Qaid-e-Azam. It is the highest forum, because decision is sought directly from the people. This forum supercedes the Parliament, the Supreme Court or any institution because it is the Peoples Forum. Encyclopaedia Encarta describes democracy thus “any form of government the people wish to choose”. It is on this principle that Pakistan has always asked for a referendum for the people of Kashmir to decide their future.

    The politicians are not happy because the people are being contacted directly. The politicians in our country have hijacked the election system of getting in the Assemblies. They have cultivated an ‘electoral mafia’ through which they come in power. A point to note is that in the 1970 elections the voter turn out was 80%. In the last elections where Nawaz Sharif got his ‘heavy mandate’ only 20% voters turned up. Most of the voters didn’t go because they were fed up with the system and were often heard saying, What is the use. “Eik Chor Jatha hai Aur doosra Bada chor aatha hai”.

    These politicians are also objecting to the ‘Graduate Clause’. Once again one hears of bizarre arguments. They say that since there is a small percentage of graduates, the public is being disfranchised. If this is the argument, then minimum educational requirements should be removed from all organizations. They are shouting because the “Electoral Mafia” is being cut to size.

    They (politicians) want that
    1. Uneducated lot come in the assemblies, so that they can manipulate them. (Bills have been passed in the assembly within 15 minutes. The ‘unpadh’ MNA’s made their presence felt by just thumping the tables.)
    2. The public should not be involved and interfere in their gross misuse of power.

    The public should see through their fraud and is high time that it sorts out these snakes from our society.

    [B]Some facts:
    1. In 1970 elections the voter turn out was 80%. In 1997 elections the voter turn out was 20%. This means 60% of the voters boycotted the elections because of the "Chor Mafia".
    [B/]

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