No announcement yet.

UK and US warning over Kashmir - alarm over the China factor.

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    UK and US warning over Kashmir - alarm over the China factor.

    India has truly shot itself in the foot by dragging all the world's leading nuclear powers into this dispute, over Kashmir. The involvment of Great China in this dispute, ostensibly on Pakistan's 'side' has alarmed the western powers. Are they only sounding alarm bells for nothing?,00.html

    UK and US warning over Kashmir

    Britain and the US fear the real threat of war between India and Pakistan could destabilise the wider world and drag in larger nuclear powers such as China. Tony Blair has held an intensive round of discussions with George Bush over the holiday period to coordinate Anglo-American efforts to quell tensions on the Indian subcontinent. The prime minister warned yesterday of the dangers ahead if the bellicose words of the two nuclear nations were turned into action.

    As he arrived in the Bangladeshi capital, Dhaka, at the start of a six-day tour of south Asia, Mr Blair declared that the military build-up in the disputed territory of Kashmir presented "enormous problems for the wider world". He said: "As we saw on September 11 the danger is that when these events occur they do not stop at the borders of any one country. Attention has focused on India and Pakistan because of the enormous problems the whole of the wider world would face if they get it wrong."

    He arrived in Dhaka amid tight security. Police with automatic weapons dispersed a crowd of religious leaders and seminary students who shouted slogans accusing Mr Blair of being a "mastermind of torturing and killing Muslims across the world". The protests cast a pall over Mr Blair's trip, when he hopes to act as a "calming influence" between India and Pakistan, the region's two nuclear powers. Downing Street is understood to be concerned that the Kashmir dispute, which was re-ignited when Islamist extremists launched a suicide attack on the Indian parliament last month, could escalate beyond the subcontinent and drag in China.

    Officials have noted with alarm that General Pervez Musharraf, the Pakistani president, is travelling via China to this weekend's regional summit in Nepal. Beijing, a long-term foe of India's, has played a key role in helping Pakistan to build up its arsenal of nuclear weapons. Asked whether Gen Musharraf's China visit demonstrated that tensions between India and Pakistan could destabilise the wider region, Mr Blair said: "There is a reason why President Bush and I have been speaking regularly over the holiday period. That is because it is a very serious issue with potentially far reaching consequences if the tensions get out of hand."

    His remarks indicated that his discussions with Mr Bush went well beyond Afghanistan and tensions on the Indian subcontinent to encompass wider questions about world stability. Colin Powell, the US secretary of state, is so alarmed by the Kashmir dispute that he has told British officials he fears another Arab-Israeli conflict. There is no immediate fear that China would launch any attacks. But clear Chinese support for Pakistan would alarm India and further destabilise the region.

    During his stop in Beijing last night, Gen Musharraf was reported to have told Premier Zhu Rongji he was willing to work to ease tensions with India through dialogue. "Pakistan hopes for peace, opposes war, and is willing to work to ease the tensions through dialogue," Xinhua news agency quoted him as saying.

    Mr Blair said he would deliver tough messages in separate talks with Gen Musharraf and Atal Bihari Vajpayee, the Indian prime minister. "I cannot start telling each country how to run their own affairs," he said. "But of course what we want is for the Pakistani side to act against terrorism. On the Indian side - to try to de-escalate tension... It is very important that, given the military capability of both powers, we do everything we possibly can to calm the situation."

    He added: "I hope that by putting over the view on behalf of everybody in the international community I can have a calming influence." Mr Blair, who was accompanied by his wife Cherie, held talks last night with the Bangladeshi prime minister, Khaleda Zia, and asked Dhaka to contribute troops to the multinational force supporting the interim government in Kabul.

    [This message has been edited by Malik73 (edited January 04, 2002).]



      Originally posted by R_B_B:
      To Malik and other members

      Would an independant kashmir be viable to Pakistan?

      Can you please open a new thread to address that issue as it is a seperate topic to the one being discussed.

      Thank you


        This is one more reason that India should quit it's embarrasing sabre-rattling. Pakistan is no rag-tag outfit like the Taleban who were cut off from all supplies and allies.

        General musharraf's being flown directly to Nepal via Chinese air-space sends a clear signal to the militant BJP ruling coalition of India where China's support will lay if conflict is forced upon Pakistan.


          Originally posted by Malik73:
          [i]General Pervez Musharraf, the Pakistani president, is travelling via China to this weekend's regional summit in Nepal.
          That is finesse


            Originally posted by Akif:
            That is finesse
            Yes it sure is. But as I mentioned in another thread President Musharraf will be arriving in Nepal to attend the SAARC summit in a Chinese plane. The Chinese Air Force will provide full protocol and security to President Musharraf's plane. Such high level Chinese diplomatic and military courtesy for President Musharraf must be the reason why alarm bells have been ringing in DC and London.

            The China card over Kashmir will or seems to have impelled the US and UK to get more involved, and effectively internationalise the Kashmir dispute. As each day goes by India's diplomatic and military bluster and bravado is turning into a mini-Kargil like humiliation, which they find themsleves hard to extract from.

            [This message has been edited by Malik73 (edited January 04, 2002).]


              Pakistan loves to use the China card. Its actually a win-win for all.

              1. It gives Pakistan a necessary backing of a militarily strong country in its neighborhood.

              2. China loves the attention, because it heightens its status as a regional and world power. And it allows China to take a stand on regional issues. This quid pro quo helps both Pakistan and China all the way.

              3. China still gives jitters to the Indian policy-makers, especially bcz China thrashed India once (1962) and due to its huge size, outperforms India in all sectors of military and economy. And China has neither a love-lost with India nor any significant economic gains to get from India, rather both countries compete with each other in all major economic circles.

              4. Pakistan uses China's backing to neutralize the bullying of other western countries, like US. It gives Pakistan two feet to stand on, when US starts acting like a bear.

              5. Since China itself is not a democracy so it gives two hoots to cries of military dictatorship and other 'crap' while Western countries start a song-and-dance at the sightest provocation (that Mushy needs to bring back democracy blah blah). This helps Mushy as he need not be defensive about his military and non-democratic credentials when he deals with China. A luxury he doesn't have with other western countries, where Mushy needs to prove himself everytime on his own merits.