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    Seems like President Mushrraf has scored at every front

    Ever news item I read Indian/Pakistani/Western its President Mushrraf and his statesmanship. Too bad Indians keeping their own in the dark.

    Here is another one.
    http://www.indian-express.com/ie20010717/ed1.shtml

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    In the circumstances it was hard to fault him. The exasperation he expressed about an attitude to the peace process characterised by the refusal to use the word ‘dispute’ in relation to Kashmir is also shared by many Indians


    Very interesting. This shows that President Musharraf is more in tune with the realities that the Indian people recognise, but not the Indian government. In fact the Agra Summit has shown that the Indian government is very much controlled by right-wing HINDUvta nationalists like Advani. Vajapiyee is just a figurehead PM with no real power or influence. Had he signed the declaration both governments had in fact almost agreed, which stated the "centrality" of the Kashmir dispute, then it is most likely that Vajpaiyee would have been booted out of office by his own party.

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      #3
      In fact two indian ministers threatened to resign on wordings of declaration. These were Murli manohar joshi (human resources) and ananad kumar (culture). The man who did most to ensure failure of the talks was L.K.Advani, he changed the wordings of the joint declaration many times.

      so vajpayee was indeed under great pressure

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        #4
        The influence of Hindu fantics in GoI is indeed troubleing.

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          #5
          Originally posted by pukka desi:
          In fact two indian ministers threatened to resign on wordings of declaration. These were Murli manohar joshi (human resources) and ananad kumar (culture). The man who did most to ensure failure of the talks was L.K.Advani, he changed the wordings of the joint declaration many times.

          so vajpayee was indeed under great pressure

          Excatly pk. The Agra Summit has confirmed that President Musharraf is the undisputed leadr of Pakistan. And it has confirmed what was widely known i.e. that Vajpaiyee is after merely a puppet of right-wing HINDUvta's. The BJP-RSS etc.

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            #6
            Pakis are happy as if they have retaliated 1971.

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              #7
              Indians are bitter as if they have lost Kargil. :~p

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                #8
                Originally posted by pukka desi:
                In fact two indian ministers threatened to resign on wordings of declaration. These were Murli manohar joshi (human resources) and ananad kumar (culture). The man who did most to ensure failure of the talks was L.K.Advani, he changed the wordings of the joint declaration many times.

                so vajpayee was indeed under great pressure
                vajapayee has to quit this 'pakistan, pakistan' stuff and concentrate on domestic matters. though there is generally a support for any attempts to solve problems with neighbors, they have become intractable in course of time and just taking gambles of inviting this or that without homework wont help. there is an UTI crisis and then they made mess in nprthest by promising contradictoy things to warring parties and so on. so focus on domestic matters rather than looking for writing a place in history. history rarely takes dictation from anyone.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by khan_sahib:
                  Indians are bitter as if they have lost Kargil. :~p
                  Deep in their heart their bitterness goes back centuries and in the more recent past its the memories of Akhand Bahrat...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Abdali:
                    Deep in their heart their bitterness goes back centuries and in the more recent past its the memories of Akhand Bahrat...
                    It these bad memories and conflicts will grow to may be third war if pak-india do not sit now and reslove issue and concerns. I wish indian govt. had given more depth in their decision to not issue joint statment.

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                      #11
                      who lost, who won is not the question...kashmir's problem is still there where it was b4 the meeting...whtz the use of having all these pointz and scores...yeah mushrraf said many thingz and was very blunt in his meetingz with vajpai but in the end the core issue is till there..kashmir...india didn't accept it as a disputed region and pakistan didn't get anything except a few columnz in the newspapers...i don't call this scoring...

                      in the end...no 1 is the winner...
                      kashmir is still burning... and therez no solution in sight...

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                      Naffi Asbaat Da Paani Mallaya...Har Raggay HarJai Huu
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                        #12
                        Nothing was supposed to come out of the summit therefore nothing was achieved. Musharraf was desperate to come and meet Indians anywhere, anytime, so he got his attendance. Indians are very aware of Paki stand regarding Kashmir and they don't agree with it, all the Musharraf's lectures just fell on deaf ears, he didn't say anything that was not said before or anything we don't know.

                        Colossal waste of time, Indians should only agree to talk when Pakistan is truly ready, which will be in few years from now.



                        [This message has been edited by Rani (edited July 19, 2001).]

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