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    A Pragmatic General gives the Muslim world "food for thought"

    The Pakistanis have been led to believe that once the Muslim world was united in a single bloc the Muslims would become the most powerful force on the earth; and the security and financial troubles of Pakistan will be over.

    Musharraf's comments made in a recent speech should serve as an eye-opener to the Islamic world and food for thought.
    Excerpts :
    • The Muslim World makes for one quarter of the world population controlling 70 percent of the world energy resources. The total GDP (Gross National Product) of the Muslim World(Ummah) amounts to about 1.3b dollars. In comparison, Japan alone with lesser population than Pakistan and with no natural resources worth the name has a GDP of $5.5b, over four times more than the entire Ummah.
    • The Muslim world has 380 universities while Tokyo alone has 1000 of them. The Ummah produces 500 PhD scholars in a year while UK with a population of only 60m produces 3000 and India 5000. Pakistan's figures are too dismal to mention, he said. "Suffice it to say that we are at the bottom in the race for knowledge and yet we want to teach the world what knowledge is", Musharaff opined.
    • The Oxford and Cambridge universities were founded in 12th and 13th century respectively. They had originally started as religious seminaries but like madrassahs they did not remain static and bound in the antiquated curricula. The English universities kept on moving forward with the times. They have produced scientists, mathematicians, inventors, and men of letters, philosophers, and administrators who ruled the world. "What our madrassahs have produced? Mostly pesh imams and fanatics", Musharaff commented.
    • The Muslims ruled India for almost a 1000 years and what have they left behind? Their legacy is confined to some tourist attractions in the shape of tombs, mosques and forts. The Muslim rulers did not endow the country with a single educational institution. The Aligarh University came during the British rule and so did the Punjab University and many other modern teaching institutions. Even the madrassahs of Deoband and Breily were founded during the British Raj.
    • Pakistan is an atomic power, General Musharraf said, but Pakistan's economy is not in consonance with the atomic status. Atomic prowess, he said, does not make Pakistan great and invulnerable unless it is supplemented by parallel economic progress. The General cited the example of the former Soviet Union that had and still has the power to annihilate the world 10 times over but it still disintegrated due to its economic weakness.





    [This message has been edited by chilli (edited June 09, 2001).]

    #2
    Interesting but where exactly did you get this info.
    You must have gotten it off some website, could you provide a link??

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    Our's but to do and die:
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      #3
      http://www.jang-group.com/thenews/ju...01/oped/o1.htm , if that makes any difference to you....

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        #4
        Thanks, and yes it does make a difference.

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        Our's not to reason why,
        Our's but to do and die:
        You can't fix stupid. So might as well troll them!

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          #5
          Are you disappointed that it is a PAKISTANI source ?

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            #6
            No, you aren't a reliable source.
            You have tried to pass off a lot of stuff.
            So that is why i want a link every time you and Mohhabbat post.
            Plus i wanted a look at the whole thing.
            You guys just love to take things out of context and not give the whole picture.

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            Our's not to reason why,
            Our's but to do and die:
            You can't fix stupid. So might as well troll them!

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              #7
              It seems he preparing religious right by telling them the home truths and bringing them out of their dream world, which has lead to religious crimes, chaos and economic stagnation in Pakistan..in order to have some kind of reasonable and acceptable negotiations with India during his upcoming visit. Also, to show international community that he is an reasonably intelligent leader, who understands the ground realities, not some kind of weirdo with his head in the air.



              [This message has been edited by Rani (edited June 09, 2001).]

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                #8
                indians can also benefit from his advise

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                  #9
                  Yes.. especially from the "Atomic power vis-a-vis Economy" part...

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                    #10
                    chilli,

                    I saw the speech live on TV, and heard the CE say everything you have pasted here, and more.

                    This 'EYE OPENER' you mention was not directed against the view that a single Muslim bloc would make the Muslims the most powerful force on earth.

                    This "EYE OPENER' was meant as a complement to the future course of Pakistan, to rectify the internal situation of the nation, to make it competent enough to face the future.

                    Pervez Musharraf himself stated that Pakistan is viewed as a leader of the Ummah by the rest of the Muslim countries.

                    You Indians are trying your level best to portray the Pakistan as a gone case, being on an unstoppable downslide to its degradation and destruction. Unfortunately for you, the reality is the converse and the very near future will show you where you have erred in your projections.

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                      #11
                      Oh, so this came from the Opinion section of The News.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by alizadeh2000:
                        You Indians are trying your level best to portray the Pakistan as a gone case, being on an unstoppable downslide to its degradation and destruction. Unfortunately for you, the reality is the converse and the very near future will show you where you have erred in your projections.
                        First of all, Mr. Alizadeh, I have not made any comment of my own so far . The above post has been taken from a column of a Pakistani Newspaper.So what you have read is a Pakistani's view-point. All I wanted from you is your thoughts on the questions raised.Looks like you have none.... other than the usual India-bashing...

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                          #13
                          I think that The general made some very valid, realistic and logical points. Sadly..the people who could benefit most from these thoughts are not quite logical, rational or realistic.

                          The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist. And like that... he is gone.

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                            #14
                            You want my thoughts?

                            I think Indians are living in self-delusion because they keep on insisting that the Pakistani Mujahideen groups are bad for Pakistan's economy..

                            While it is true that sectarian terrorists are harming Pakistan's economy by repulsing foreign investment, most of Pakistan's economic ills are brought about by the wrongdoings of the past "democratic" governments.

                            Sectarian terrorists do not have that much of a link with Mujahideen organizations, much as Indians would like us to believe. The Kashmir Jihad is NOT the cause of Pakistan's economic ills.

                            Let's view sectarian terrorism and Mujahideen as separate issues.

                            Originally posted by chilli:
                            First of all, Mr. Alizadeh, I have not made any comment of my own so far . The above post has been taken from a column of a Pakistani Newspaper.So what you have read is a Pakistani's view-point. All I wanted from you is your thoughts on the questions raised.Looks like you have none.... other than the usual India-bashing...

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                              #15
                              Further:

                              A small part of Pakistan's short-term immediate geostrategic success depends on sustaining the Jihad in Kashmir.

                              This Jihad may only be sustained if the organizatiosn participating in the Jihad do not harm Pakistan itself.

                              Thus Pakistanis need to ensure that sectarian terrorists and Kashmir Mujahideen groups are kept separate, and that any sectarian terrorist groups in Pakistan should be singled out and eliminated before they get a chance to legitimize their organiztions under the garb of Kashmiri Jihad.

                              THE BOTTOMLINE IS: Pakistani military needs to weed out domestic terrorist organiztions from the domain of Kashmir Jihad organizations.

                              This is important to Pakistan's success as a nation-state.

                              [This message has been edited by alizadeh2000 (edited June 10, 2001).]

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