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    Why forcible conversion from Hinduism to Islam?

    http://www.thefridaytimes.com/news9.htm

    Targeting of the Hindus:An alarming increase was seen in attacks directed against the Hindu community, with the persecution directed against them especially in Balochistan forcing hundreds to flee their homes and cross over into Sindh. Three Hindus were reported to have been killed in the town of Chaman after clashes between Hindus attempting to protect their homes and Muslim mobs in October. Temples and homes were set ablaze and property including Hindu shops destroyed as the growing social intolerance assumed alarming new proportions in Balochsitan. In all cases, local extremist groups played a role in triggering the attacks.

    Though the precise number of families which fled was unknown, reports suggested almost half the community of 10,000 Hindus in Lasbela had been forced to leave their homes over they year. In almost all cases, the increased activism by militant religious groups imposed new strains on relations between the majority Muslim and Hindu communities, who had lived peacefully alongside each other for many decades.

    Forcible conversion of non-Muslims:The efforts to forcibly convert Hindus, especially female school students, had a direct role to play in violence against Hindu settlements. Some of the worst incidents came in Bela, in the Lasbela district of Balochistan, located 500 kilometers southwest of Quetta. In May it was announced by two school teachers that one of their pupils, 13-year-old Rajunati Kumar, had renounced Hinduism and embraced Islam, taking for herself the name Ayesha. The 'conversion' was made public in a phone call made by the school principal to local authorities. Days later, both the girl herself and her family firmly denied the account. Local Muslim clerics however refused to accept this, insisting the child had been forced to renounce her conversion by hr parents and members of her community. Amid the uproar created mainly on the conservative clergy, Rajunati and her family fled to Sindh.

    Attacks on places of worship:At least five Hindu temples were vandalised over the year, with their structures damaged and the idols and other objects of worship placed in them broken. Amid the uproar caused by the conversion issue in Lasbela, activists of religious parties on May 19 launched an assault on two old Hindu temples in the area. Idols placed in them were thrown to the ground and an attempt made to set the buildings ablaze. Steps by the district administration against the mob prevented the temples from being set a alight.

    A few days later, after authorities refused to take the girl who it was claimed had embraced Islam away from her parents, another temple was attacked in the same area. A new upsurge of violence against Hindus took place in Balochistan in October, in the towns of Dalbandin and Chaman. Accusations that a local Hindu woman in Dalbandin had distributed sweets wrapped in pages of the Holy Quran led to the violence. Despite confirmations by local police and district officials of accounts by Hindu community leaders, that the illiterate woman had not known what was contained in the pages she had used and had believed them to be pieces of paper from her children's textbooks, a temple was ransacked and burnt. Property placed within it had been destroyed earlier. The violence swiftly spread over to the town of Chaman from Dalbandin, where another place of worship was attacked by a mob,. Hindus attempting to protect the temple and the gods placed within it were also injured as a result of the clashes.



    #2
    Horrifying. The accounts of treatment of religious minorities in Pakistan are for the most part comical. When you have clowns running the affairs (at clergy and at the Government level) what do you expect? These mulls who have their religion coming out of their behinds are sure to pay the price of ignorance some day. In fact, they are pretty much paying it right now. People donít have money to feed their kids and Mullas are worry about their Islam (as if it is so fragile). Give me a break.

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      #3
      This is truly sad and whould be stopped imediately!
      Such actioncs can only be described as Horrific!
      God damn those pathetic people who even think of such actions!

      [This message has been edited by Topee Wala (edited March 24, 2001).]

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        #4
        Gee....where is everybody? CM, Mundu, FYI?? I know...Friday times is a mouthpiece for BJP/RSS Zionist media!!!

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          #5
          You called??
          It is not as bad as it is in india where they kill christain missionaries.
          But i deplor the whole thing.
          It happens in india and pakistan the most becuase religion is mixed with politics.
          Something that should not happen.
          Happy infoman?

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            #6
            Originally posted by Infoman:
            Gee....where is everybody? CM, Mundu, FYI?? I know...Friday times is a mouthpiece for BJP/RSS Zionist media!!!
            Inf Oman

            You probably didnt know all you hindus in India were BUDDHIST ,at the time of Ashoka the great & before that.??
            By that token you were forced by the Vaishnivites & Advaita philosophites of tyrant brahman preaching casteism??:READ & learn

            Aryan Hindu Persecution of Mongoloid ************************************ Buddhists
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            Ever since hordes of barbarian Aryan invaders poured into Nepal from the
            5th century AD onwards, the native population has been systematically
            persecuted and oppressed. The indigenous religion of Buddhism, which was
            founded in Nepal, has been almost extinguished due to centuries of
            persecution by the 6 `astika' (orthodox) schools of Brahmanism a.k.a.
            Hinduism. Thousands of Buddhist temples were destroyed, scores of
            Buddhist libraries burnt, Mongols massacred and innocent women raped by
            the Aryan Hindu gangsters. Crops were destroyed, lakes poisoned and
            entire townships annihilated. Each and every Buddhist shrine has been
            either destroyed and replaced by a completely new Brahmanic temple, or
            has been forcefully converted into a Hindu shrine. Survivals of the
            Buddhist temple structures still survive in many so-called `Hindu'
            temples in Nepal. This gang of blood-thirsty criminals still rule over
            Nepal, terrorizing and exterminating the inhabitants. In all this
            turmoil a brave leader has arisen amongst the Nepali people, to take the
            indigenous inhabitants back to the Buddhist golden age.

            That man is
            Gopal Gurung. Fearsome and tireless, he has risen to challenge Brahmin
            tyranny in one of the world's two Hindu Rasthras. His writings amply
            expose the manner in which Brahminist Hindu exploitation has eaten away
            at the core of Nepali civilization :

            Non-Hindu majority in Nepal
            by K.C, SULEKH, 603-SECTOR 15A, CHANDIGARH-160 015
            Nepali leader Gopal Gurung from Kathmandu has sent me his book, Hidden
            Facts in Nepalese Politics (DV July 16, 95 p.24). The book brings out a
            striking resemblance of India with those of non-Hindu tribes of Nepal.
            Deeply moved by the plight and persecution of the oppressed people of
            Nepal, who have risen in defiance of ruling Upper class, I felt
            compelled to write a few lines on the book to express my solidarity with
            the Nepalese brothers and sisters in distress to boost their moral.
            Gurung seems to be the man of agitating masses there. he social
            system of India and Nepal, the "world's only Hindu country". I was
            shocked and disillusioned too to find that the hydra-headed monster of
            castism that had played havoc with the lives of crores of human beings
            in India, degrading them to the status of social lepers, rather worse
            than that of the animals, did not spare the soils beyond to spread the
            cult of hatred and violence based on racial discrimination. The book
            written in the classic spirit of a rebel brings out very bold the
            glaring example of jealous, prejudice, conspiracy and hypocrisy
            practiced so cunningly by the power-hungry but caste-conscious
            politicians of the day.
            Racism in India: In fact, it is a world-wide phenomenon of the strong
            kicking the weak. But it is peculiarly different on the soil of India
            and Nepal where it is the word from the holy (?) scriptures which reigns
            supreme and has the decisive say in shaping of the destinies of the
            people and not the principles of justice, equity and fair play, where
            the privileges accruing there form is the birth and not the worth with
            which the individual might have been endowed. I and millions like me on
            this side of the line feel gratified to see that if th
            Babasaheb's remedy: It would be wortand
            discrimination against the vast sections of people branded as shudras
            and Adi-shudras (Untouchable). It is because, of this monumental service
            rendered to the humankind Babasaheb is remembered today more as an
            emancipator of the lowliest of the low and a valiant upholder of the
            human rights in the mould of his great master Gautam Buddha than a mere
            Law Minister, educationist or the maker of India's Constitution.
            Bombay Red Light Area: DV readers in and out of India must write to
            Gopal Gurung and express their solidarity. The Book(1995), Hidden Facts
            in Nepalese Politics by Gopal Gurung can obtained from Po.Box. 2828,
            Kathmnadu, Nepal, pp115, Rs.100, or 10 US dollars. Gopal Gurung should
            know that thousands of Nepalese and Dalit girls ar sold to Bombay flesh
            market where our girls too are sexually exploited. DV wants to make a
            story on Bombay's Red Light area. -EDITOR.

            Ever since the calamitous Aryan invasion, Nepali history has been a
            continous orgy of massacre, rape and plunder. The whole of Nepal was
            converted into a gigantic prison in which Mongol Buddhist civilians were
            maimed and their properties seized by the Hindu monsters and their
            Brahmin leaders. The iron laws of Pandit Kautilya and Pandit Manu were
            ruthlessly enforced upon the population. Prof. John Talboys Wheeler has
            clearly described the historical wars waged by `astik' Brahminist Hindus
            against `nastik' Buddhists :


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            aaj kHat likhne main unki jaan jaati hai .....

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              #7
              FYI:
              That post is a ranting as established in the other forum. Repeating idiocy does not change the truth. At least CM had the fortitude to condemn the act.

              There is no one-for-one relationship on this. The cycle needs to be broken.

              Ready for this.....are you ready...this is unprecedented and unwarranted. "I condemn the burning of the quran by the idiotic mob in India and regret the loss of life of the people that died."

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                #8
                Infoman, fortitude has nothing to do with it.
                What is morally wrong is wrong not matter who commits the crime.

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                  #9
                  I would need this story to be confirmed by other sources. The editor of the Friday Times was personally invited to India to declare that Pakistan was a failed state, so any stories of forced conversions coming from them have to regarded as suspicious.

                  If someone can provide confirmation from other news sources such as Dawn then perhaps it can be taken seriously.

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                    #10
                    I read the dawn everyday, there is nothing in it on this topic.
                    Not for the past couple of months for sure.

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                    CROIRE A L'INCROYABLE
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                      #11
                      CM: What is morally wrong is wrong not matter who commits the crime
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                      Well said young man. I see less of the hot blood and more reason in your postings lately.

                      Problem is that religion drives people against each other and it will always be so.

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                        #12
                        how about http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/20001021.htm or http://www.dawn.com/2000/10/13/ed.htm#3

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                          #13
                          No one claims that the situation of the non-muslims is good. But we do try to do is make it better for them. We might not be sucessful at this point in time BUT i hope we are in the future.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Topee Wala:
                            No one claims that the situation of the non-muslims is good. But we do try to do is make it better for them. We might not be sucessful at this point in time BUT i hope we are in the future.
                            Read the following from the article:
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                            But if it is any consolation, he and his fellow Ahmadis are not alone in being persecuted. The blasphemy law has been misused blatantly and viciously to imprison and even execute non-Muslims. Usually, this law is invoked to target hapless Christians and Hindus for personal reasons far removed from any real or imagined blasphemy. In the most recent case in a remote town of Balochistan called Dalbandin, the temple and several houses belonging to Hindus were burned down by a mob.

                            The reason for this barbaric act was that an illiterate Hindu housewife had allegedly distributed sweets wrapped in pages from a textbook that contained religious verses. Even if this true, the fact that she was illiterate did not prevent the local religious worthies from setting a gang of bigoted thugs on her family and their neighbours. And to compound this crime, the police, instead of locking up the leaders of the mob, have instead arrested some of the victims.

                            We in Pakistan never tire of criticizing what we perceive as religious persecution in India. Indeed, that country has a poor record of safeguarding the rights of its minorities, specially in certain pockets in Gujrat and Orissa. But the fact is that in the eyes of the law, non-Hindus have the right to appeal to the courts for justice if their rights are infringed. In Pakistan, certain specific laws are aimed at non-Muslims, depriving them of some of their fundamental rights, and relegating them to the status of second class citizens. In an imperfect world, the first stage in obtaining rights is their legal recognition by the state and its functionaries.

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                            Just a little while ago, you were critizing India for mistreating muslims. Anything India does is no where near to what u do, and how much u abuse insignificant minorities..

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rani:
                              Read the following from the article:
                              ================================================== ====
                              But if it is any consolation, he and his fellow Ahmadis are not alone in being persecuted. The blasphemy law has been misused blatantly and viciously to imprison and even execute non-Muslims. Usually, this law is invoked to target hapless Christians and Hindus for personal reasons far removed from any real or imagined blasphemy. In the most recent case in a remote town of Balochistan called Dalbandin, the temple and several houses belonging to Hindus were burned down by a mob.

                              The reason for this barbaric act was that an illiterate Hindu housewife had allegedly distributed sweets wrapped in pages from a textbook that contained religious verses. Even if this true, the fact that she was illiterate did not prevent the local religious worthies from setting a gang of bigoted thugs on her family and their neighbours. And to compound this crime, the police, instead of locking up the leaders of the mob, have instead arrested some of the victims.

                              We in Pakistan never tire of criticizing what we perceive as religious persecution in India. Indeed, that country has a poor record of safeguarding the rights of its minorities, specially in certain pockets in Gujrat and Orissa. But the fact is that in the eyes of the law, non-Hindus have the right to appeal to the courts for justice if their rights are infringed. In Pakistan, certain specific laws are aimed at non-Muslims, depriving them of some of their fundamental rights, and relegating them to the status of second class citizens. In an imperfect world, the first stage in obtaining rights is their legal recognition by the state and its functionaries.

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                              Just a little while ago, you were critizing India for mistreating muslims. Anything India does is no where near to what u do, and how much u abuse insignificant minorities..
                              Rani

                              Thanx goodness that you are yourself minority in India & muslims neednt worry about your kind coming into majority.

                              You want parity in mIs treatment of minority.

                              Very good .What if S,Africa Canada,U.k. Usa started treating ytou & your kind like a muslim minority in India .Whatever happens outside India is not indianmmuslims concern nor it should be Indian govt or its hindu majority 's concern.Otherwise its going to bwe civiul war .do or die .When an animal is cornered it bites.Who is afraid of death when your existence is threatened.This is muslim point of view .Other exploited suppressed groups have thee way of reactimg in there unique way ,DONT EQUATE A VALID BONAFIDE MUSLIM CITIZEN OF INDIA WITH SOMONE IN CHINA UZBEKISTAN OR PAKISTAN .I wouldnt be surprised if Kanpur is repeated in all cities of india if push come to shove!

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                              "jo kHat main kahte they apni jaan mujhko
                              aaj kHat likhne main unki jaan jaati hai .....

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