Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Iran is not our friend anymore!

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Iran is not our friend anymore!

    Kudos to the ISI. They've really landed the big one this time.

    With the recent visit of Indian PM to Iran, what had been brewing for months has now come out openly. India is now Iran's new "strategic partner".

    What started with Naseerullah Babar has now culminated in Pakistan's complete isolation in the region from all four sides. Boxed in like a caterpillar in its own cocoon, the generals in GHQ, as you read this, are probably having having a tough time figuring this one out.

    Now it is time to face the music.

    This is exactly what you get for installing and supporting a terrorist, anti-human, backward, despotic regime in a neighboring country that kills its owns civilians(Shias) when conquering new terriritory. Nothing can justify the immense suffering brought upon the Afghan people by the Taliban (read: ruthless generals of the Sipah-Sahabhi-infested ISI).

    The rational for supporting the Taliban, according to CE Musharraf was that since Pakistan has an enemy on its eastern border (India), it doesn't want one on its western border(Masood regime in Afghanistan).

    But does this justify making a foe out of Iran? Is Afghanistan more powerful, or Iran? Where should our priorities be?

    India has lost no time in warming up to Iran and exploiting the void left by the Pakistan's continuing support to the Taliban.

    Had we talked Tehran and Masood earlier, Iran would have ensured the security of our western borders. We should have worked with Iran to create trust and mutual security agreements, instead of setting out to ravage a neighboring country.

    And to be realistic, can little-boy Masood really be a threat to a nuclear armed neighbor such as Pakistan? He has no good reason to do so.

    This is a sad day in the history of Pakistan. We have lost our only great friend in the region.

    But the trigger-happy generals in the GHQ must be relieved that now our only friends are the Taliban. Come to think of it, with friends like them, who needs enemies.

    ISI Zindabad!

    #2
    Im sorry, but what on earth are you talking about.

    With the recent visit of Indian PM to Iran, what had been brewing for months has now come out openly. India is now Iran's new "strategic partner".

    Is that anything new? India and Russia are joined at the hips, and Iran has been an extremely close of Russia for ages. And that has kept them close to India as well all these years. So what this news item brings forth is no shocker.

    Boxed in like a caterpillar in its own cocoon, the generals in GHQ, as you read this, are probably having having a tough time figuring this one out.


    Boxed in? India is the one boxed in, not that that makes any difference, but your reference to Pakistan being isolated in the region is a huge jump to a non-existent conclusion. Pakistan is flanked by China, Afghanistan, Iran and India. We are fine with all but India. Iran's co-operation with India doesnt mean they will help india kill kashmiris or fight Pakistan, should another conflict arise between the two countries. The bulk of their co-operation is for economical purposes, and if you look at it from that point of view, heck Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman and all other mideast countries are "not our friends anymore" either, since they all employ hundreds of thousands of Indians.
    A part of their mutual thought process is regarding the taleban in Afghanistan. But thats a mere agreement in thoughts. I doubt it will ever come to the point where Iran will support India in any sort of military maneuver against the taleban, since that will be suicidal for both the countries.

    This is exactly what you get for installing and supporting a terrorist, anti-human, backward, despotic regime in a neighboring country that kills its owns civilians(Shias) when conquering new terriritory.

    Pakistan did NOT install the taleban govt. The Russians installed the Masood govt.
    Big difference.
    And the taleban control better than 95% of Afghanistan. That was a major reason for Pakistans support for the taleban.

    Nothing can justify the immense suffering brought upon the Afghan people by the Taliban (read: ruthless generals of the Sipah-Sahabhi-infested ISI).

    If youre gonna do a cut and paste, do it in its entirety

    This editorial/letter/opinion is just that, an opinion, by whoever wrote it, with more 'personal emotions', and less facts.

    Is it automatic that any friend of India is automatically an enemy of Pakistan?
    Is it automatic that any friend of Israel is an automatic enemy of Pakistan?

    What Iran and India do in the privacy of their cozy offices is none of Pakistans business, and doesnt affect Pakistan in anyway. And besides, Iran is not moving away from Pakistan in anyway. Case in point, the oil pipeline project, which Iran insisted, despite Indias apprehensions, that it be built and run through Pakistan. Iran denied Indias request to have one made under the sea, because of which India has been forced to take the more expensive route of transporting liquified gas via ships.


    Comment


      #3
      What utter bull****.
      You need to have your head examined, this post is not even worth a single comment.

      ------------------
      CROIRE A L'INCROYABLE
      You can't fix stupid. So might as well troll them!

      Comment


        #4
        No, they came from Aladdin's Lamp.

        Originally posted by Akif:


        Pakistan did NOT install the taleban govt.


        Comment


          #5
          I guess Pakistan was never afraid of Masood, they did not want enmity with Taliban, who have nothing better to do but produce Jihad somewhere, somehow. Either directly with Rabbani, or by bombing Americans everywhere. Had they not been our friends, they would have declared Jihad against "Munafiqs".

          Not to mention the chief of the Lashkar-e-Tayyiba asked Pervez Musharraf to grow a beard, as that was required because of his capacity as the leader of a Muslim country! There are numerous demands from many groups to implement a Shariah. And as Fazlur Rehman said on PTV the other day, we need to know if Musharraf's plans are coming from abroad or created within the country. We have also come to the point of judging arguments on the authors, rather than on the merit!

          We have made foes with both Tehran and New Delhi and yet we are crying for them to pass the Gas pipeline through Balochistan and Sindh!

          Besides Russia always supported Masood through Iran, and USA always supported Taliban through Pakistan; just that they left Taliban in the condition that has ignited enmity against USA. Mind you, they hate Americans, not non-Muslims or Whites in general!

          Omer

          Comment


            #6
            Originally posted by alizadeh2000:
            No, they came from Aladdin's Lamp.
            Instead of being a smart alec, u could write something thats smart.

            Pakistan merely supported the taleban government, and recognized it, as one of 3 countries to do so (Saudi Arabia and UAE being the 2 others). Why not blame Saudi Arabia and UAE for "installing the taleban govt" as well?

            Read a lil bit o history, and do away with the cut and pastes. One good thing about writing your own opinion is that you can back it up.

            Comment


              #7
              I am shocked at how shia pakistanis remain ever-loyal to Iran while at the same time being nothing of the kind to Pakistan, God forbid!
              And whenever the minorest dispute occurs between the two countries, they go mouthing off against their own country and its institutions without ever giving even the tiniest consideration to the un-holiness of Iran!
              No logic, No reason,No patience, No love for your own country or patriotism or any other of such abhorrent things! No, it's just 'Dear Iran' and 'Evil Pakistan' pure and simple.

              Pakistan from these pakistanis,whenever it comes to Iran is instantly put on trial. And Pakistan from these pakistanis doesn't even get a fair trial - what to talk of love for one's own country - no instead it's simply tried and convicted instantly at first sign of any difficulty in relations!

              It defies belief, does this behaviour.
              Seems like Pakistan harbours a large number of 'Iranian citizens' on it's soil.

              [This message has been edited by Ahmed (edited April 13, 2001).]

              Comment


                #8
                Wait a minute!
                This from people who say that Muslims should unite because religion takes supremacy over nationality. That's why Pakistanis in USA, UK, and Canada routinely support Pakistan and Taliban over the country they reside in. Should we start lynching these traitors?

                [This message has been edited by schopenhauer (edited April 13, 2001).]

                Comment


                  #9
                  Please objectively try to analyze the respective contributions of Pakistan and Iran to the crisis in Afghanistan instead of b*****ng me a traitor.

                  Originally posted by Ahmed:
                  I am shocked at how shia pakistanis remain ever-loyal to Iran while at the same time being nothing of the kind to Pakistan, God forbid!
                  [This message has been edited by Ahmed (edited April 13, 2001).]

                  Comment


                    #10
                    Which part of "terrorist" don't you understand?

                    1. Taliban is a product of Pakistani ISI
                    2. Taliban are 100% Sunni or Wahabi Pushtuns
                    3. Taliban regard Shias as Kafirs
                    4. Taliban killed hundreds of Shias civlians in Mazar E Sharif and Bamiyan
                    5. Taliban assisted Sunni tribes in FATA kill Shia tribes near Hangu, NWFP Pakistan
                    6. ISI is still supplying arms to Taliban
                    7. Taliban cannot govern
                    8. Taliban treat women worse than animals
                    9. Taliban bans TV, music and women's education
                    10. Taliban paints all windows black
                    11. Taliban publicly canes women for not observing Purdah.
                    12. Women have been forced to turn to prostitution because of Taliban's policies, according to RAWA.

                    Taliban are a curse on the entire Ummah.

                    The filth that was brewing within the borders of NWFP for years is now exposed to the whole Muslim world, drawing only curses and lunaat on Pakistan from the whole Ummah.

                    It is a sad day for Pakistan.

                    Comment


                      #11
                      Well said Ahmed.
                      And Hitlers youth, yes we do ask for muslim unity.
                      You got a bloody problem with it???
                      Just as you ask for Osama Bin Laden, of course, yours is a hopeless dream.

                      Which part of "terrorist" don't you understand?

                      Your definition.

                      1. Taliban is a product of Pakistani ISI

                      Really??
                      But wait until 1994 we supported Hekmatyar, but then we switched why???
                      If they are a ISI product, then they should listen to everything Pakistan says.
                      They don't do that.
                      And what prove do you have??
                      Heck the US doesn't even say that the Taliban are pakistani created.

                      2. Taliban are 100% Sunni or Wahabi Pushtuns.

                      Yeah so???
                      What the Mujahids against the Ruling party in Iran aren't shias??
                      I hate this bloody sunni shia ****.
                      We are muslims and that is how it should remain.
                      If you think there is a difference and it should be made clear then you are no worse than the taliban.
                      So bloody what if they are sunni.
                      And WTF is a wahabi???

                      3. Taliban regard Shias as Kafirs.

                      Prove it in a written document given by the govt.

                      4. Taliban killed hundreds of Shias civlians in Mazar E Sharif and Bamiyan.

                      Prove it once again.
                      And Masoods corrupt rebels don't count.
                      They are fighting a war.

                      5. Taliban assisted Sunni tribes in FATA kill Shia tribes near Hangu, NWFP Pakistan

                      Prove it.
                      Documentation.

                      6. ISI is still supplying arms to Taliban.

                      Prove it.

                      7. Taliban cannot govern

                      Says you and what other idiots???
                      They have 100% security, the country is running smoothly.

                      8. Taliban treat women worse than animals

                      They don't treat them well, but not like animals.

                      9. Taliban bans TV, music and women's education.

                      Their choice.

                      10. Taliban paints all windows black.

                      What does that have to do with anything??????

                      11. Taliban publicly canes women for not observing Purdah.

                      There interpretation of Islam.
                      What its worse in Singapore, where you can get caned for eating chewing gum???
                      True fact.

                      12. Women have been forced to turn to prostitution because of Taliban's policies, according to RAWA.

                      I don't believe RAWA, as some of the stuff is very hard to swallow esp. due to the hard line nature of the Taliban.

                      ------------------
                      CROIRE A L'INCROYABLE
                      You can't fix stupid. So might as well troll them!

                      Comment


                        #12
                        Originally posted by CM:


                        4. Taliban killed hundreds of Shias civlians in Mazar E Sharif and Bamiyan.

                        Prove it once again.
                        And Masoods corrupt rebels don't count.
                        They are fighting a war.

                        5. Taliban assisted Sunni tribes in FATA kill Shia tribes near Hangu, NWFP Pakistan

                        Prove it.
                        Documentation.
                        well.. check any AFP, AP, NYT, WP, BBC website and you will find gory details of this incident, not awar they killed many, many non-sunni, non-pakhtun civilians. Your starry-eyed attitude to Taliban apart, they are not even ready to extradicate Sunni terrorist who killed shias in pak and have taken shelter in taliban land.

                        Comment


                          #13
                          ZZ i want an article, that says they are shias.
                          Nothing more.
                          I know i can look all this up at these sites.
                          But provide an article where it says it was extermination of shia muslims.

                          ------------------
                          CROIRE A L'INCROYABLE
                          You can't fix stupid. So might as well troll them!

                          Comment


                            #14
                            From your name you seem to be an iranian. I have the same message for you as your beloved Imam Khomeine had for the "Monafe"gh"s".

                            Bar khelaf een mauj (Taleban)harkat nakaneed keh dast ve payetan khuahed shekast.

                            AllahoAkbar ve Zindehbad tehereek -e-Taleban dar Afghanistan ve marg bar Shomali Ittehad, Israel ve Amreeka! ,

                            Comment


                              #15
                              Alizadeh,
                              How can you ge a ghaddar when you are not even a pakistani.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X