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    Bahishti Darwaaza - my foot

    http://www.dawn.com/2001/04/02/top1.htm
    Dawn 02 April 2001 Monday 07 Muharram 1422

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    Why they make world laugh at us? I mean the people who think that all their sins will be forgiven if they cross this door once in a lifetime or something like that.

    These people made us feel like stupid when we go to mosque among people of other muslim world.



    [This message has been edited by khan_sahib (edited April 02, 2001).]

    #2
    Khan Sahib,

    Yours are not the only one. Our Hindus also jump in Ganga at Kumbh once in 12 years with a foolish hope to wash their sins. It is some kind of a laundry system, I suppose.

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      #3
      Anand,

      I understand your situation but at least you can make excuses in front of gora people that it is part of the faith and bull like this. But in our case, itís the muslims of different countries who havenít heard these things as part of the religion and really get confused as what on earth we are doing in this part of the world.

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        #4
        i feel the sameway. i don't know what religion these idiots are following.

        pass thru a door and you'll go to heaven. is there one that i can pass thru righ now and it'll take me back to pakistan?

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          #5
          Its SHIRK,if they knew.

          The essence of Islam is it discourages elevating HUMAN to level no more than that they are.Even Prophet Mohommed ,reminded NOT to worship him HE is but a human & conduit messenger ,no way to be confused with any part of GOD.

          I hear they are worshipping hair,whether or not true,& some ppl. claiming direct lineage to Mohommed,as if that would make them better,when Mohommed(slww) pbuh-himself wanted to be ordinary human,living in hut,working with hand building masjid nabvi,lead a simplest nonpompous life.But these descendents claim extra priveleges,live in europe & book place in jannah like air lines tickets!!

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          "jo kHat main kahte they apni jaan mujhko
          aaj kHat likhne main unki jaan jaati hai .....

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            #6
            Originally posted by FYI:
            Its SHIRK,if they knew.
            True. But its not their fault that they don't know. They are but illiterate people who would beleive and follow anything and anybody.

            A friend told me that if you ever go to perform Haj in Saudia Arabia, you will notice that all the graves of the Sahaba and the Holy Prophet (PBUH) are unmarked. This is done deliberately by the Saudi govt so as to prevent anybody from bowing before these kabars or praying to these graves. The Saudi govt takes measures to prevent shirk.

            I beleive the Pakistani govt could have and should have taken similar steps. But they are too busy with other matters.

            Its sickening when I go to Bari Imam, a place near Islamabada and see people crying at a charpai, bowing in sajda before it and stuff.

            Really sad.

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              #7
              Originally posted by khan_sahib:
              Anand,

              I understand your situation but at least you can make excuses in front of gora people that it is part of the faith and bull like this. But in our case, itís the muslims of different countries who havenít heard these things as part of the religion and really get confused as what on earth we are doing in this part of the world.
              The fact that hindus bathe in the ganges has nothing to do with "posturing" for Goras,as you say. If these people feel better spiritually, then more power to them.

              I have often heard from the many muslim denizens here that god decides who is muslim and not. Why not follow that mantra rather than get upset something like this?

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                #8
                what these people need is some serious education...and im talking about religious education.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Infoman:
                  The fact that hindus bathe in the ganges has nothing to do with "posturing" for Goras,as you say. If these people feel better spiritually, then more power to them.

                  I have often heard from the many muslim denizens here that god decides who is muslim and not. Why not follow that mantra rather than get upset something like this?

                  ajeeb aadmi ho, I didn't mean Hindus are posturing for goras. I was saying it is easier to make excuses to someone who doesn't know your religion but in this case when all muslims know that there is no such thing as Bahishti darwaaza (heavenly door) on earth then it becomes quite difficult to explain to fellow muslims who laugh at our strange traditions which have become part of religion in the Indo Pak.

                  Also, I believe that it is the other way round as all kids are born muslims and then they decide themselves what they want to do for which they will definitely be accounted for one day.


                  [This message has been edited by khan_sahib (edited April 03, 2001).]

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