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    The US plan for the preservation of kufr in Pakistan


    The present government has embarked upon a series of political initiatives, which it characterises as reforms, some of which are devolution, widening of the electoral base, restructuring of the judiciary and the police force, and also what it has termed the accountability of defaulters and the prevention of corrupt politicians from electioneering. These measures have been undertaken with a view to return the country to civilian government through the implementation of Capitalist Democracy, a system that places authority for devising the laws of the entire society in the hands of a small assembly of legislators. In so doing, the government has clearly signalled its intention of preserving the law of kufr, instead of uprooting this and returning to the law of Allah.


    Ever since so-called independence, Pakistan has remained a subordinate state of the kafir colonialist powers first Britain and then America. Both these countries have, in fact, competed with one another to control the destiny of the country through various means: cultural, economic, military and political. But despite the clash in their interests, both Britain and the US are equally concerned to ensure the continued implementation of the Western Capitalist system and to keep Pakistan from turning to Islam. In the early years, it was easy for Britain to maintain control of Pakistan's affairs by exploiting the political, bureaucratic and military apparatus that it had painstakingly constructed during its lengthy colonial presence in combined India. However, British influence declined as America supplanted it in world affairs and succeeded in drawing Pakistan within its sphere of influence. Pakistan became a subordinate state to the US and has remained so for over four decades, thereby rendering great service to American regional and global interests. Nevertheless, US hold over Pakistan has remained uneasy and America has been repeatedly obliged to deviate from the Capitalist democratic model, instead inviting military rule in order to retain control of Pakistan's affairs. The reason for this unending turmoil in Pakistan's internal affairs is the original plan adopted by America to seize control of Pakistan's affairs. Instead of converting the old British elements to its cause, America ignored them and created new elements loyal to it, thereby opening the way for conflict between these new elements and the old elements that had been patronised by the British. So Pakistan's institutions and political medium remain in eternal conflict as differing factions fight for control over Pakistan's affairs. Therefore, the government's current initiatives of devolution, accountability, and depoliticisation of state institutions, first announced by General Pervaz Musharraf in his televised address of 17 October 1999, are in reality a continuation of the struggle of these differing factions and an attempt by America to pave the way for stable civilian government. Sometimes the US arranges for replacing one of her agents by another when the first has been exhausted The struggle in Pakistani politics over the decades has not been a struggle between Islam and kufr, but has been a struggle between various agents of the kuffar, competing to achieve total control over the implementation of kufr in the country.


    Unfortunately, what is witnessed in Pakistan, where politicians compete for their own interests only, is common to all Capitalist countries: in all these countries politics is known as a dirty business, especially in America, the leader of Capitalist countries, the Clinton era being particularly notorious for its political scandals. This corruption in politics is not because of the politicians alone but because of the nature of the Western Capitalist ideology itself, which throws man into a race to satisfy his material interests, a race that causes man to clash with man and country to clash with country. Western Capitalism does call for many high ideals such as Freedom and Democracy, but these ideals are in reality impractical and false and consequently they are manipulated by the practitioners of Capitalism only to serve their own ends. The reality of democracy, for example, is that Western Capitalism authorises a select assembly of men to decide laws for everyone else in the name of Sovereignty for Man. But there is no logical reason why these few hundred legislators will remain loyal to the millions who elected them. In fact, such an assembly is easily tempted or threatened to serve those other than the people because the members of these assemblies are only motivated for their own material interests. Consequently, small but powerful interest groups such as the multinationals, the homosexuals and the Jews are able to manipulate the entire system to their advantage through securing the loyalties of individual politicians. This is similar to what happens at the international level, where countries such as America and Britain manipulate the entire world to their advantage through both their open control of institutions such as the UN and the IMF and also their hidden control of agents and institutions in other countries.


    It is the nature of kufr that it will only bring misery to mankind, because kufr does not agree with human nature (fitra). Only Islam is both convincing to the mind and also in complete agreement with human nature, thereby bringing tranquillity to the heart. This is because Islam is designed by the Creator of man, Who knows man better than man knows himself. So how can the men who designed kufr ideologies seek to compete with Allah? In Islam, laws are taken from the divine sources, the Quran and the Sunnah of the Messenger (saw.) and what is indicated by them, the Ijma of Sahaba and the Qiyaas. These laws are fixed and not subject to manipulation by men. Islam obliges the Khaleefah to implement Islam and not to follow his own desires. And Islam obliges Muslims to account the Khaleefah according to Islam and not according to their own desires. And Islam motivates all Muslims to place worship of Allah above material interests, so that there is no opposition from their nafsiyya (disposition) to the implementation of the Islamic system. Therefore it is haram for Muslims to allow a few from amongst them to devise the laws for everyone else according to their own desires. And it is haram to support the election of those who will devise such laws. Allah says in Surah al-Nisa




    (But no, by the Lord, they can have no (real) Faith, until they make thee judge in all disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against Thy decisions, but accept them with the fullest conviction. )Allah (swt) says in Surah al-ahzab,


    It is not for the believer (male or female) that when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter that they should have any choice in their matter)


    As long as the Western Capitalist system continues to be implemented in Muslim lands, the door remains open for the kuffar to maintain control over our affairs. And as long as the kuffar retain control of world affairs, man will be in misery everywhere. Over the last five decades, the Muslim dream of Pakistan has turned from hope to disillusionment as the Muslims of Pakistan witness the cheap struggles between their politicians. The Muslims long for a new leadership that will be sincere to the Ummah and to the deen, but the reality is that these politicians have only been loyal to their own interests, and it is this that has exposed them to be controlled by kufr colonial powers. The salvation of the Muslim Ummah and of all mankind is in the re-establishment of the Khilafah State, which will implement Islam and carry the message of Islam to the entire world. The Khilafah State will not allow its political structures to be influenced by the powerful interest groups among the kuffar, indeed the Khilafah will reverse the current subordination of Muslims and make the kufr colonialist powers submit to the will of Allah.



    (He it is Who sent His Messenger with guidance and the deen of truth, that He might cause it to prevail over all ways of life, though the polytheists may be averse.)


    Hizb ut-Tahrir

    Pakistan


    2nd March 2001
    Khilafah - the need of the time www.khilafah.com.pk

    #2
    Ah hah, the fightback against the Hizb-e-hulla-gulla has begun...

    Very simple question "ibn abdullah":-

    Where is your friend (and master) "Dr Imran Waheed" hiding huh?

    No 6-page long and cut and pastes please. Just tell us where he is?


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      #3
      Only allah (azza'wa'jall)is my master. and maybee brother imran does not want to waste his time.

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        #4
        and maybee brother imran does not want to waste his time.
        - Or maybe he does not have the answers to our questions? Is that typical of the organisation he represents?


        - i.e. Is Hizb-ut-Tahrrir all hot air and lies?


        - And he can't keep the promises he made in public on this forum? - would you like to see the evidence where he made these promises?


        - Do you know what the Islamic punishments for lying and deceiving people are "Mr. ibn abdullah"?


        - How do you expect people to take seriously an organisation which only prints some useless press releases and whose members lie and deceive good Muslims?


        - Do you know what the Islamc punishments for hypocrisy and double standards is?


        A great team of brothers in that infamous thread you posted back in January successfully exposed you people for the frauds you are.

        So why don't you stop wasting your time, because no one wants to hear from people who deceive and lie to their own brothers...







        [This message has been edited by Malik73 (edited March 07, 2001).]

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          #5
          The US plan for the preservation of kufr in Pakistan

          The present government has embarked upon a series of political initiatives, which it characterises as reforms, some of which are devolution, widening of the electoral base, restructuring of the judiciary and the police force, and also what it has termed the accountability of defaulters and the prevention of corrupt politicians from electioneering. These measures have been undertaken with a view to return the country to civilian government through the implementation of Capitalist Democracy, a system that places authority for devising the laws of the entire society in the hands of a small assembly of legislators. In so doing, the government has clearly signalled its intention of preserving the law of kufr, instead of uprooting this and returning to the law of Allah.


          Ever since so-called independence, Pakistan has remained a subordinate state of the kafir colonialist powers first Britain and then America. Both these countries have, in fact, competed with one another to control the destiny of the country through various means: cultural, economic, military and political. But despite the clash in their interests, both Britain and the US are equally concerned to ensure the continued implementation of the Western Capitalist system and to keep Pakistan from turning to Islam. In the early years, it was easy for Britain to maintain control of Pakistan's affairs by exploiting the political, bureaucratic and military apparatus that it had painstakingly constructed during its lengthy colonial presence in combined India. However, British influence declined as America supplanted it in world affairs and succeeded in drawing Pakistan within its sphere of influence. Pakistan became a subordinate state to the US and has remained so for over four decades, thereby rendering great service to American regional and global interests. Nevertheless, US hold over Pakistan has remained uneasy and America has been repeatedly obliged to deviate from the Capitalist democratic model, instead inviting military rule in order to retain control of Pakistan's affairs. The reason for this unending turmoil in Pakistan's internal affairs is the original plan adopted by America to seize control of Pakistan's affairs. Instead of converting the old British elements to its cause, America ignored them and created new elements loyal to it, thereby opening the way for conflict between these new elements and the old elements that had been patronised by the British. So Pakistan's institutions and political medium remain in eternal conflict as differing factions fight for control over Pakistan's affairs. Therefore, the government's current initiatives of devolution, accountability, and depoliticisation of state institutions, first announced by General Pervaz Musharraf in his televised address of 17 October 1999, are in reality a continuation of the struggle of these differing factions and an attempt by America to pave the way for stable civilian government. Sometimes the US arranges for replacing one of her agents by another when the first has been exhausted The struggle in Pakistani politics over the decades has not been a struggle between Islam and kufr, but has been a struggle between various agents of the kuffar, competing to achieve total control over the implementation of kufr in the country.


          Unfortunately, what is witnessed in Pakistan, where politicians compete for their own interests only, is common to all Capitalist countries: in all these countries politics is known as a dirty business, especially in America, the leader of Capitalist countries, the Clinton era being particularly notorious for its political scandals. This corruption in politics is not because of the politicians alone but because of the nature of the Western Capitalist ideology itself, which throws man into a race to satisfy his material interests, a race that causes man to clash with man and country to clash with country. Western Capitalism does call for many high ideals such as Freedom and Democracy, but these ideals are in reality impractical and false and consequently they are manipulated by the practitioners of Capitalism only to serve their own ends. The reality of democracy, for example, is that Western Capitalism authorises a select assembly of men to decide laws for everyone else in the name of Sovereignty for Man. But there is no logical reason why these few hundred legislators will remain loyal to the millions who elected them. In fact, such an assembly is easily tempted or threatened to serve those other than the people because the members of these assemblies are only motivated for their own material interests. Consequently, small but powerful interest groups such as the multinationals, the homosexuals and the Jews are able to manipulate the entire system to their advantage through securing the loyalties of individual politicians. This is similar to what happens at the international level, where countries such as America and Britain manipulate the entire world to their advantage through both their open control of institutions such as the UN and the IMF and also their hidden control of agents and institutions in other countries.


          It is the nature of kufr that it will only bring misery to mankind, because kufr does not agree with human nature (fitra). Only Islam is both convincing to the mind and also in complete agreement with human nature, thereby bringing tranquillity to the heart. This is because Islam is designed by the Creator of man, Who knows man better than man knows himself. So how can the men who designed kufr ideologies seek to compete with Allah? In Islam, laws are taken from the divine sources, the Quran and the Sunnah of the Messenger (saw.) and what is indicated by them, the Ijma of Sahaba and the Qiyaas. These laws are fixed and not subject to manipulation by men. Islam obliges the Khaleefah to implement Islam and not to follow his own desires. And Islam obliges Muslims to account the Khaleefah according to Islam and not according to their own desires. And Islam motivates all Muslims to place worship of Allah above material interests, so that there is no opposition from their nafsiyya (disposition) to the implementation of the Islamic system. Therefore it is haram for Muslims to allow a few from amongst them to devise the laws for everyone else according to their own desires. And it is haram to support the election of those who will devise such laws. Allah says in Surah al-Nisa


          (But no, by the Lord, they can have no (real) Faith, until they make thee judge in all disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against Thy decisions, but accept them with the fullest conviction. )Allah (swt) says in Surah al-ahzab,


          It is not for the believer (male or female) that when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter that they should have any choice in their matter)


          As long as the Western Capitalist system continues to be implemented in Muslim lands, the door remains open for the kuffar to maintain control over our affairs. And as long as the kuffar retain control of world affairs, man will be in misery everywhere. Over the last five decades, the Muslim dream of Pakistan has turned from hope to disillusionment as the Muslims of Pakistan witness the cheap struggles between their politicians. The Muslims long for a new leadership that will be sincere to the Ummah and to the deen, but the reality is that these politicians have only been loyal to their own interests, and it is this that has exposed them to be controlled by kufr colonial powers. The salvation of the Muslim Ummah and of all mankind is in the re-establishment of the Khilafah State, which will implement Islam and carry the message of Islam to the entire world. The Khilafah State will not allow its political structures to be influenced by the powerful interest groups among the kuffar, indeed the Khilafah will reverse the current subordination of Muslims and make the kufr colonialist powers submit to the will of Allah.


          (He it is Who sent His Messenger with guidance and the deen of truth, that He might cause it to prevail over all ways of life, though the polytheists may be averse.)


          Hizb ut-Tahrir

          Pakistan


          2nd March 2001
          Khilafah - the need of the time www.khilafah.com.pk

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            #6
            Carry on "ibn abdullah" keep on cutting and pasting the same Hizb rubbish. You are only further proving the points that I made in my previous post.


            In front of everyone, you are making a true show of yourself and Hizb-ut-Tahrir.


            Carry on...


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              #7
              Khuda us qum ki halatnahin badalta jise khud apni halat badalni ki parwah na ho.... Is it US or we ourselves to blame...
              Saints are fine for Heaven, but they are hell on earth.

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                #8
                brother malik please justify your statement qoute:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                Carry on "ibn abdullah" keep on cutting and pasting the same Hizb rubbish.

                so brother please go back to my original post what you called rubish and please pick out any section which is not in acordance with islam, HOWEVER IF YOU CANNOT THE I SUDJEST FOR YOUR OWN SAKE STOP MOKING ISLAM WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE..

                IBN ABDULLAH
                AWAITING RESPONSE?

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                  #9
                  I suggest people go to to the following thread in World Affairs. And you will see people like "ibn abdullah" and his Hizb masters in true deceitful and hypocritical action.

                  CLICK BELOW:-

                  http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum25/HTML/000899.html

                  Maybe once ibn abdullah has corrected his grammar and spelling mistakes he would like to go back to his original thread and try answering some Islamic questions for a change.



                  ...Awaiting all the answers...

                  James Bhand

                  Hizb-e-halla-gulla



                  [This message has been edited by Malik73 (edited March 07, 2001).]

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                    #10
                    You show up and just annoy the poor guy.
                    Good work Malik!!
                    And i am not going to read all that, as i don't believe it.
                    Democracy is the way to go with Islamic laws.
                    What you want is ..um... impossible.

                    ------------------
                    CROIRE A L'INCROYABLE

                    [This message has been edited by CM (edited March 08, 2001).]
                    You can't fix stupid. So might as well troll them!

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                      #11
                      Khilafa is a need of the moment but it must be brought in accordance with the times. There are ways do bring it. But a revolution is not it. If we do not need one it is not advisable to have one. Please dont cut-and-paste regular article by HT but explain what is going on in your own words. I used to read the ar-raya and other HT publications but i found that there too ignorant of certain aspects. Think realisticly, depending on the situation decide the actions. Condeming everything is not good. If a bad motive does not exist then dont create one. If the CE has clean motives then let him function. Adter all he did allow the HT to function in Pakistan. No doubt it might have a positive impact but the people are scared. They dont know is the HT will turn out to be like JI or JUF (bunch of hypocrites). The people are cutious.

                      Khilafa will have to formed through the present process, while mainting the stability. There can not be sudden shifts. Use the resources available, dont ignore them. Analyse the situation and then give a decision. And do so on your own behalf.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Topee Wala:
                        I used to read the ar-raya and other HT publications but i found that there too ignorant of certain aspects.
                        Actually the situation is more clearer than that. They just don't have a clue.

                        Originally posted by Topee Wala:

                        They dont know is the HT will turn out to be like JI or JUF (bunch of hypocrites). The people are cutious.
                        Exactly. The only reason HT writes these silly non-impact statments and press releases is so that they can have a go at practicing their English. The silly supporters don't even realise this since they are so starry eyed about the whole sad state of affairs.

                        Ask them a few simple and straightforward questions and then they get scared and bugger off. Just goes to show...

                        ------------------
                        They shoot partypoopers, don't they?

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                          #13
                          Please dont cut-and-paste regular article by HT but explain what is going on in your own words.

                          Topee Wala brother, these people find that very, very hard to do. They have registered on this forum under many, many multiple nicks claiming that they are ‘doctors’, ‘teachers’, ‘professors’ and so on. With that sort of intellectual and professional experience (that they claim) you would think that they could write something themselves, and something legible?

                          Instead they give us these long cut and pastes over and over again, and expect us to just accept those as fact. As soon as we start asking them questions they give us more (of the same) long cut and pastes. They will rarely in their own words say anything to explain their cause. But, when they do say something themselves, then it usually is to call somebody a ‘kuffur’ or un-Islamic. Hardly the etiquette to have a friendly discussion on Islam among Muslim brothers?


                          Think realistically, depending on the situation decide the actions. Condeming everything is not good. If a bad motive does not exist then dont create one. If the CE has clean motives then let him function. Adter all he did allow the HT to function in Pakistan
                          Exactly! Well put brother. The Hizb-ut-Tahrir cult is only in for condemning something for the sake of condemning – just yip yap and nothing else. Many of the good brothers on this forum had a long discussion with these people a few weeks ago, and that discussion confirmed for me that the Hizb-ut-Tahrir are only out for themselves i.e. political power at all costs, and not out for true Muslim unity as prescribed in the holy Koran.

                          I suggest you read that thread in World Affairs, and observe the real nature of this cult group. You are welcome to add anything you want in that thread.


                          http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum25/HTML/000899.html


                          P.S. CM good to see you back partner, and on the side of truth



                          [This message has been edited by Malik73 (edited March 08, 2001).]

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                            #14
                            salaam

                            mr malik

                            can you please read my original post and tell me if you find any thing unislamic about it as you have said it is rubbish.

                            brother i will await your reply and as soon as i get it i will answer your allready answered questions which you are on about.

                            please bring any qoute from my posted article that you think contradicts islam
                            however if you don't think it contradicts islam then please refrain from calling islam rubbish, speaking againts an article that is in acordance with islam is speaking against islam which is a grave sin.

                            ibn abdullah

                            may allah(swt) guide us to the right path

                            <<<AND THE AFTER LIFE IS BETTER>>>>>>>

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                              #15
                              mr malik
                              can you please read my original post and tell me if you find any thing unislamic about it as you have said it is rubbish.
                              brother i will await your reply and as soon as i get it i will answer your allready answered questions which you are on about
                              Your first post was a 3 page cut and paste with no comments by you.

                              Your second post was one badly misspelt sentence.

                              Your third post was the 3 page cut and paste as your first post, and again with no comments from yourself.

                              Your fourth post was an even worse spelt two-line sentence asking about your first and third post i.e. The cut and paste.

                              And now you fifth post is a slightly better spelt (you have obviously been consulting the "good doctor"?) But similar rant about your cut and pastes.

                              Do you think we are all here to comment on your cut and pastes? Say something concrete yourself about Islam and Pakistan, in your own words. We don't want to comment on a news release from some cult group


                              As for the second part of your last post. Calling me such names is the act of a cornered member of a desperate and deceitful organisation like Hizb-ut-Tahrir. And I suggest you do a search on some of my posts on these forums before making such un-Islamic and ill-temperate comments.

                              You could land yourself in serious trouble.


                              Brothers CM, Topee Wala, Mr Partypooper and myself have all asked you questions in this thread. So I suggest you answer them before digging yourself deeper into the mess you are in.


                              I refer all brothers to the following thread where people like "ibn abdullah" and his HT masters can be seen in action. Boy what a thread that is!

                              Http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum25/HTML/000899.html

                              James Bhand

                              Hizb-e-halla-gulla




                              [This message has been edited by Malik73 (edited March 08, 2001).]

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