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    COMPARATIVE STATISTICAL DATA ON PAKISTAN AND INDIA  
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    COMPARATIVE STATISTICAL DATA ON INDIA AND PAKISTAN
    Most journalists of first world countries treat India and Pakistan on
    par, and this, to my mind, reflects poorly on their research and
    seriousness. They see little or no difference between the two nations
    and thus do a great disservice to India. To treat the two as deux
    enfants terrible is to be shallow. Facts speak otherwise.
    We have all read of the great and rapid strides made by Indians in the
    Information Technology field; what we are unaware of are the changes
    taking place in the OTHER spheres, less glamorous and less talked about
    and, in many ways, of much greater importance than technological
    expertise for India's future. These are some of the findings I made on
    the progress made by both India and Pakistan in some areas. Of course we
    are far behind Europe and the USA in many ways, but this is only a
    comparison of India and Pakistan.
    Codes:
    P=Pakistan
    I=India
    Most of the figures mentioned here are 1999 figures:
    Population growth rate %:
    P= 2.18 I= 1.68
    Life expectancy at birth in years:
    P=59.38 I= 63.40
    Fertility rate per woman:
    P=4.73 I= 3.18
    Literacy % of total population:
    P=37.8 I= 52.00
    Birth rate per 1000:
    P=33.51 I= 25.39
    Death rate per 1000:
    P=10.45 I= 8.50
    Infant mortality per 1000 births:
    P=91.86 I= 60.81*
    * all statistics from CIA's factbook.
    (www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook)
    In the Sports arena too we often get dismayed at Pakistan's repeated
    success in routing India at cricket; we also remember that we cannot
    touch Pakistan in Squash. But there are other sports as well.
    Malyalam Manorama 2000 has tabulated India's performance at the SAF
    Games and the medals tally of the top three medal-taking countries are
    as follows:
    codes as follows:
    I=INDIA
    P=PAKISTAN
    N=NEPAL
    S=SRI LANKA
    G=GOLD MEDAL
    S=SILVER MEDAL
    B=BRONZE MEDAL
    1984, KATHMANDU
    I: G=44, S=28, B=16 TOTAL=88
    S: G=7, S=11, B=12 TOTAL 30
    P: G=5, S=3, B=2 TOTAL=10
    DHAKA 1985:
    I: G=46,S=29, B=14 TOTAL 89
    P: G=16,S=19, B=9 TOTAL 44
    B: G=9, S=16, B=34 TOTAL 59
    1987 CALCUTTA
    I: G=91, S=45, B=19 TOTAL=155
    P: G=34, S=25,B=19 TOTAL 78
    S: G=6, S=10, B=21 TOTAL 37
    1989 ISLAMABAD
    I: G=49, S=35, B=20 TOTAL 104
    P: G34, S=25, B=19 TOTAL 78
    S: G6, S=10, B=21 TOTAL 37
    1991 COLOMBO
    I: G=64, S=59, B=41 TOTAL 164
    S: G44, S=33, B=41 TOTAL 118
    P: G28, S=33, B=24 TOTAL 85
    1993 DHAKA
    I: G=61, S=47, B=38 TOTAL 146
    P: G=23, S=22, B=21 TOTAL 66
    S: G=21, S=23, B=28 TOTAL 72
    1995 CHENNAI
    I: G=106, S=60, B=19 TOTAL 185
    S: G=16, S=25, B=52 TOTAL 93
    P: G=10, S=33, B=36 TOTAL 79
    1999 KATHMANDU
    I: G=102, S=58, B=37 TOTAL 197
    N: G=31, S=10, B=24 TOTAL 65
    S: G=16, S=42, B=61 TOTAL 119 (PAK WAS OUT OF TOP THREE)
    On the other hand we are all inclined to look at the rosy picture only
    in the technological and economic spheres; with the above-mentioned
    facts, it is evident that India has better family planning, better
    medical facilities and more schools as well.
    While these facts are not by themselves very fascinating and exciting,
    it is in the proportion of the male to female literacy that the
    difference will soon make its presence felt: while 50 percent of the
    male population of Pakistan has literacy (as against India's male
    literate population which is at 65.5 percent), it is the stark contrast
    in the female population that one notices the gender bias: only 24.4
    percent of Pakistani womne are literate as against the Indian figure of
    feamle literacy which stands at 37.7 percent. Of course this is a far
    cry from the 99 percent literacy rate of France and the UK, and it is
    far short of China's 81.5 percent(men at 89.9 percent and women at 72.7
    percent), and yet,despite everything, even while retaining democratic
    principles ( unlike China which has enforced family planning),India has
    moved forward in a non-profit sector which will ultimately reap rich
    dividends to the nation.
    Yes, Pakistan is better at one thing: the percentage of population below
    the poverty line in Pakistan is at 34 percent while that of India is at
    35 percent, and this is something to scratch one's head about. However,
    that is one fact that needs improvement and India surely needs to get
    out of this terrible state where people don't have basic amenities for
    daily existence. It is something we need to focus on and pay serious
    attention to, no doubt. Recently, I was heartened to read that Azim
    Premji of Wipro has decided not to donate the earnings to IITs all over
    India but he will focus his charitable contributions on elementary
    education in India. A wonderful gesture indeed. When you educate a child
    you not only educate him, it is said, but you allow him to feed himself
    for the rest of his life.
    India is a country seriously dedicated to improving itself. There is
    absolutely no doubt about it after one reads these amazing figures. A
    lot remains to be done, and the path is long and hard, but the path is
    right, and so is the nation's attitude.
    Once in conversation with Kiran Bedi I asked her what it was that kept
    her so enthusiastically on the right track, day after day. Her response
    to me, I believe, best encapsulates what makes the best of Indians tick:
    "Every morning I ask myself: do I want to waste my day, or do I want to
    invest it? And I follow the answer!"

    ajay
    (Administrator)
    8/16/00 11:01 AM
    Re: COMPARATIVE STATISTICAL DATA ON PAKISTAN AND INDIA  
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    Lataji,
    Fascinating article :
    You missed a few important statistical parameters. Perhaps you can add
    these
    1. No. of terrorists produced per capita
    2. No. of AK-47s per capita
    3. No. of honor killings of women
    4. No. of military dictators since independence
    5. Foreign debt per capita
    Now you see, Pakistan is not that far behind ... Let's give credit where
    it is due
    regards,
    ajay
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    latasheila
    (Chintan Columnist)
    8/18/00 05:35 AM
    Re: COMPARATIVE STATISTICAL DATA ON PAKISTAN AND INDIA  
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    Hi Ajay!


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    "The greatest trick that the devil played was to convince that he doesn't exist"movie-Usual Suspect

    #2
    India is better in one thing:
    Most number of sepratist movements.

    What the hell are u trying to prove with this pathetic show of numbers! All u indians ever do is dis pakistan. The glory of pakistan wont decrease by stupid shows of pateticness as displayed here. If it makes u feel better, coz i think that u indians need these statistics.

    ahhhhhhh



    U have the sepratist movements in EVERY BORDER STATE
    , Babri Masjid, Golden Temple, Hundereds of Church burings as well as priest burnings and still have the nerver to call yourselves secular! A very pathetic show indeed. About india from the same CIA factbook:
    A large share of the population, perhaps as much as 40%, remains remains too poor to afford an adequate diet

    40% of your pop is under nourished. Dont give us any more of this BS.

    The only things in your ppls minds is that a day cant pass witout u trying to dis pakistan. Its like a chore now. U do it with so much passion that it is not even funny any more.


    Hats of to u ppl, the MOST PATHETIC DISPLAY OF idiotism i have ever seen! Now I have one question for u FYI.... What the hell did u get out of this? Explain this to me!


    This is very sad indeed...


    [This message has been edited by Topee Wala (edited February 09, 2001).]

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      #3
      Topiwalle,

      "Hats of to u ppl, the MOST PATHETIC DISPLAY OF idiotism i have ever
      seen! Now I have one question for u FYI.... What the hell did u get out
      of this? Explain this to me!"


      One thing i never intend to do to get you excited &belligerent.But unfortunately u r upset.
      Because i dont want ppl. to judge other or make assumption,ill ask u too ,read my post & determins who im instead of assuming that im anti pakistan!Yes this stastics is from India side & therefore it is upto you to take it with a pinch of salt.
      Im just quoting some source & it is indian,I didnt make them nor do i fully believe it NOR you have heard my analysis opinion & critique of it.Well talk later to morrow after let me see your critique.

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        #4
        FYI:
        Your Thread speaks for itself. You are ignorant (PERIOD). The stats you have quoted are completely biased and present a very polarized point of view. Let me give you a few examples. What makes the "Literacy" rate so high in India is not high literacy across the board but 99% literacy in Tamil nadu and kerala. As for your stats about Birth rate and fertility rate. It is something to be proud of, 'cause as muslims we don't think our children will be a burden upon society, and isn't the truth the other way around, aren't Hindus in India scared outta their witts 'cause of the high birthrate amongst muslims. Why don't you quote the fact that by 2050 there will be as many muslims in India as Hindus. So please take your hinduvta crap somewhere else..

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        [This message has been edited by Wadi (edited February 10, 2001).]

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          #5
          forget about the statistics .fundamental differnce is india want to prove despite
          all the problems all faiths can live toghether. we dont like coups and pakistani loves men in uniform

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            #6
            Oh yeah,
            Then Explain this sir..
            http://asia.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiap....02/index.html

            You don't accept the "firangi" sources ...

            Well then i'll give you one of your own

            http://www.tehelka.com/currentaffair...01communal.htm




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              #7
              mr rvikz, yes different faiths can live together in india, BUT NEVER WITH PEACE.. can india keep kashmir with her without 700,000 armed personals.. can you dream of keeping Assam or Khalistan with india without your army.. ????
              There are only two forces in the world, the sword and the spirit. In the end the sword will always be conquered by the spirit. --Napoleon Bonaparte

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                #8
                Originally posted by PureLand:
                mr rvikz, yes different faiths can live together in india, BUT NEVER WITH PEACE.. can india keep kashmir with her without 700,000 armed personals.. can you dream of keeping Assam or Khalistan with india without your army.. ????
                how many religen are there ?how many ethinic groups ? how many languages and different
                scripts are there. how many tribla groups?
                dont we elect one leader for past 53 years?
                hey that is real islam. let arab countries
                unite elect one leader under one god .
                islam will be formidable super force

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Wadi:
                  FYI:
                  Your Thread speaks for itself. You are ignorant (PERIOD). The stats you have quoted are completely biased and present a very polarized point of view. Let me give you a few examples. What makes the "Literacy" rate so high in India is not high literacy across the board but 99% literacy in Tamil nadu and kerala. As for your stats about Birth rate and fertility rate. It is something to be proud of, 'cause as muslims we don't think our children will be a burden upon society, and isn't the truth the other way around, aren't Hindus in India scared outta their witts 'cause of the high birthrate amongst muslims. Why don't you quote the fact that by 2050 there will be as many muslims in India as Hindus. So please take your hinduvta crap somewhere else..
                  Wadi,I AGREE 100% WITH YOU.Now does that make BOTH of us great men or fool for as they sy great men think alike & fools seldom differ!!

                  Although the figures obviously exaggerated,& i purposely took this from Hindutva web site because i wanted to haVE A DRANATIC SHOCK VALUE FIRST & THEN GRADUALLY take them off

                  India has higher literacy % b/c 0f Tamil nadu ,Kerala,W,Bengal .Nagaland(english)& you may not know by 2006 the target is literacxy in Indian muslims will be 100% too!!Do you still think im hindutva??

                  The per capita income not given here ,(wonder why?)of Pakistan is above 2000$ while for india is hardly 500$ a year.More ppl. are poor in India than in Pakistan & above all malnutrition,t,b,Aids ,leprosy,Cholea & all infectious chronic diseaes are far more common than in Pakistan
                  THere are almost 40 milliomn women of night ,although there is a redlight dist. in Lahore it is negligible in a population of over 100 millions of Pakistan.
                  ati, society mainly punishes
                  her in other "holy" ways (see below).

                  6. She cannot remarry.

                  7. The widow is considered to be a curse and must not be seen in public.
                  She cannot wear jewelry or colourful clothes. (She should not even take
                  part in her children's marriage!)

                  8. Child and infant marriage is encouraged.

                  The Muslim Woman:

                  1.The Muslim woman has the same right as the Muslim man in all matters
                  including divorce.

                  2. She enjoys property and inheritance rights. (Which other religion
                  grants women these rights?). She can also conduct her own separate
                  business.

                  3. She can marry any Muslim of her choice. If her parents choose a
                  partner for her, her consent must be taken.

                  4. The dowry in Islam is a gift from a husband to his wife (not the
                  other way around as is practiced by some ignorant Muslims).

                  5. A Muslim widow is encouraged to remarry, and her remarriage is the
                  responsibility of the Muslim society.

                  6.Mixed marriage is encouraged and is a means to prevent racism creeping
                  in society.

                  7. A Muslim mother is given the highest form of respect.

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                    #10
                    The correct statistics as compared to incorrect statistics posted at hindutva site

                    Population: 138,123,359 (July 1999 est.)

                    Age structure:
                    0-14 years: 41% (male 29,423,876; female 27,763,774)
                    15-64 years: 55% (male 38,533,918; female 36,804,592)
                    65 years and over: 4% (male 2,768,942; female 2,828,257) (1999 est.)

                    Population growth rate: 2.18% (1999 est.)

                    Birth rate: 33.51 births/1,000 population (1999 est.)

                    Death rate: 10.45 deaths/1,000 population (1999 est.)

                    Net migration rate: -1.3 migrant(s)/1,000 population (1999 est.)

                    Sex ratio:
                    at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
                    under 15 years: 1.06 male(s)/female
                    15-64 years: 1.05 male(s)/female
                    65 years and over: 0.98 male(s)/female
                    total population: 1.05 male(s)/female (1999 est.)

                    Infant mortality rate: 91.86 deaths/1,000 live births (1999 est.)

                    Life expectancy at birth:
                    total population: 59.38 years
                    male: 58.49 years
                    female: 60.3 years (1999 est.)

                    Total fertility rate: 4.73 children born/woman (1999 est.)

                    Nationality:
                    noun: Pakistani(s)
                    adjective: Pakistani

                    Ethnic groups: Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashtun (Pathan), Baloch, Muhajir
                    (immigrants from India and their descendants)

                    Religions: Muslim 97% (Sunni 77%, Shi'a 20%), Christian, Hindu, and
                    other 3%

                    Languages: Punjabi 48%, Sindhi 12%, Siraiki (a Punjabi variant) 10%,
                    Pashtu 8%, Urdu (official) 8%, Balochi 3%, Hindko 2%, Brahui 1%, English
                    (official and lingua franca of Pakistani elite and most government
                    ministries), Burushaski, and other 8%

                    Literacy:
                    definition: age 15 and over can read and write
                    total population: 37.8%
                    male: 50%
                    female: 24.4% (1995 est.)

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                    "The greatest trick that the devil played was to convince that he doesn't exist"movie-Usual Suspect

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