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    Link 1:
    EU urges Pakistan to influence Taliban

    Link 2:
    EU backs govt's reforms agenda

    Link 3:
    EU does not believe in isolating Pakistan, says Gerard

    Points of Info for Switzerland - as i only know these facts.

    1. 70 swiss multinationals work in Pakistan.
    2. Nestle has over 2 billion dollars invested in Pakistan.
    3. Total swiss investment in Pakistan is around 55 billion dollars.
    4. Highest rate of Kashmiri people recived Asylum in Swiss.
    5. The Swiss authorities are fully compling with the GOP with the Benazir Bhutto case - unlike the Brits who did NOT hand over the evidence to the military govt.
    6. The Swiss print most of the money for the world. They are helping Pakistan acquire and develop this technology, so that we can do it for ourselves.

    More later, when i get more info.
    This is an archived folder i think.
    But feel free to add any comment and stuff.
    Any Info about the EU country you live in will be appreciated.

    You can't fix stupid. So might as well troll them!

    These Swiss are ok. They make good watches as well.


      Good job CM! I'll post some stuff when I get back to the office...

      P.S. Why do you think?


        Hey, sounds like Swiss are ok people.
        thanks for posting, I was not aware of these facts.


          Sorry my bad, that should not be 55 billion - crazy me had a major test before this post.
          I was trying to study and post here.
          It is around 8.5 billion.

          You can't fix stupid. So might as well troll them!


            EU wants general elections on time

            By Raja Zulfikar

            ISLAMABAD: The European Union (EU) informed the government that it
            would be disappointed if elections to provincial and national assemblies
            were not held on party basis within the Supreme Court time frame, said
            Dominique Girard, head of visiting EU delegation, on Friday.

            Elections within the timeframe was perhaps the only condition that the
            EU delegation set during its meeting with General Pervaiz Musharraf and
            others in the just concluded two-day visit of the EU troika mission to
            Pakistan. However, the EU seemed hardly concerned about the
            politicians' outbursts against the accountability process or the NAB

            In an exclusive interview with The News, Dominique Girard, who is also
            assistant secretary for Asia in the French ministry of foreign affairs,
            termed his meeting with General Musharraf frank and honest.

            The delegation discussed with him the Afghanistan and Kashmir issues,
            Pakistan's relations with India and the nuclear non-proliferation, besides
            democracy. The EU could not, however, get any significant guarantees
            on the issue of CTBT.

            Girard summed up his visit as good. "I was satisfied with my meeting with
            General Musharraf, because obviously it was a good frank and honest
            meeting. But we have our differences. We have differing views on
            important topics and we were here to discuss those. We were here not
            to resolve every thing and not to come in agreement with the
            government here on all the topics. We very much think it was a good
            idea to have this visit," he said.

            Asked as to how the EU would react, if elections were not held within
            the given time frame, Girard said:"We will be disappointed. That is clear.
            One of the reasons why we are here was to explain to the Pakistani
            friends that the electoral process should be completed as soon
            as possible. So we certainly would be very disappointed if it did not

            To a question about General Pervez Musharraf's assurance for restoring
            democracy with the time frame set by the SC, Girard offered a rather
            lengthy explanation. "This is something interesting that came out of this
            visit. In announcing that not only the local but general elections will be
            held within the timeframe, he (General Musharraf) was quite clear. He
            was clear that those elections would include participation of the political
            parties. So that is something which is good news. We were told in
            addition that the preparation for provincial and general elections would
            start immediately after the completion of the local bodies elections."

            This was ostensibly why the EU offered technical support to Pakistan,
            Girard said and added the delegation proposed when the general
            elections take place, the EU could provide some assistance both in
            organising these elections and in the process of observing them. "The
            general was interested in it."

            "The general was interested in talking to us. He is quite aware that the
            EU, even though it is a grouping of 15 nations, speaks with one voice
            and it has its own approach on things, including the regional issues,
            which are of concern to Pakistan. The general gave the impression that
            he was interested in our views and explained his own position on those
            major issues," he said.

            Replying to a question on the delegations' meetings with the
            representatives of political parties and members of the civil society,
            Girard said they had their own views about the present regime and on
            the way in which democracy should return to Pakistan. "They had
            different views because they do not necessarily agree among
            themselves," he said. He said he did not discuss with General Musharraf
            the issue of NAB ordinance and added he was aware of the criticism of
            the subject. But he did not seem to be inclined to join the political
            parties in condemning the NAB ordinance. "We did not talk about those
            specific (NAB) issues. We have, however, heard the criticism. Again it is
            normal that the political parties' have different views on such matters,"
            he said.

            Girard quoted General Musharraf as saying that the contents of the
            Lahore process were still valid. "And that might not mean the entire
            Lahore process as such. He may be rejecting the message that led to
            the Lahore process but he said, quite interestingly, that what was
            discussed, what was agreed upon in Lahore was still valid." "And we, the
            EU, think that after the Simla accord, the Lahore process is another step
            in the right direction. One which should be supported, and we are quite
            happy with that," he added.

            The EU supported a negotiated settlement of the Kashmir issue and said
            it had been constantly saying that the Kashmir issue must be resolved
            through a direct dialogue between Pakistan and India, based on the
            previous positive steps taken by the two sides.

            Asked about EU views on the possibility of tripartite talks for resolving
            the Kashmir and at a lesser degree, other issues between Pakistan and
            India, Girard replied: "We think you need to have a dialogue. The
            conditions in which this dialogue should take place should be addressed
            again through dialogue. We do not have any pre-conceived views on
            how it should be done."

            "We think we need to have a commitment from both India and Pakistan
            and we hope that both countries or one of them will unilaterally take the
            courageous decision to try and stop this stalemate, which is making this
            region too dangerous and this situation is really dangerous for the
            region's stability," he added.

            But the EU delegation chief did not offer any specific comments on the
            recent short-term cease-fire offer from New Delhi. He said he had not
            studied this proposal in great detail. He, however, thought that it
            depended on the way it was judged and considered.

            "This kind of offer depends on the framework in which it is being made.
            So it can be the beginning of some kind of confidence building measures
            or it can be considered as empty and not leading anywhere," he noted.
            Another point on which Pakistan and the EU remained locked in a
            protracted argument was whether or not Islamabad wielded an influence
            on the Taliban enough to minimise the trouble there. Girard said the EU
            was of the opinion that Pakistan could do more to influence the Taliban.

            Girard said: "We think the Taliban owe a lot to Pakistan and it is also
            recognised by Pakistani authorities. We have been told that Pakistan
            does not have such big influence on the Taliban. We regret it and we
            still think that it would be good for Pakistan to push the Taliban in the
            right direction. And they are the best placed for that."

            But the EU had no specific proposal for peace in Afghanistan, he said
            and added "What we believe is that there are several avenues, which
            are open, which could lead to a dialogue between the parties, and to
            the possibility of some form of peace. Sooner or later the parties will
            have to reach an agreement. We think that the Afghans have suffered
            enough. We have a great deal of affection for the Afghans and we think
            it is the question of responsibility and a question of justice that peace is
            sought by the parties though dialogue."

            On the question of US demands that Osama bin Laden be brought to
            justice, the EU representative said this issue was discussed in detail with
            General Pervaiz Musharraf. He said the EU had also supported the UN
            Security Council resolutions on this issue.

            "It is a real problem and an important matter because terrorism is an
            issue, which is resented by all. We have had very serious terrorist
            incidents in France. We believe that terrorism is one of the worst things,
            which must be immediately addressed and Pakistan should play its role to
            influence the Taliban," he maintained.

            But interestingly, while the EU delegation took a hawkish stand on the
            alleged export of terrorism from Afghanistan and charged that such an
            export of terrorism had its manifestations in the events elsewhere in the
            world, it did not support a military solution to the problem. However, it
            was not in favour of air strikes against Afghanistan nor did it support the
            idea that Ahmed Shah Masood should be strengthened enough to force
            the Taliban out.

            Girard said in categorical terms that the EU was not speaking or thinking
            in terms of supporting American air strikes against bin Laden or
            Afghanistan. "The problem is not helping Masood. The problem is to find
            a solution of the issue. The problem is to bring the Taliban and Masood
            and all the interested Afghan parties to the negotiating table. We
            support the Loya Jirga process because we think that it is one way to
            bring the Afghan parties together. It is, therefore, not the question of
            supporting any one party but of bringing all parties together," he added.


            You can't fix stupid. So might as well troll them!