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    Sikhs in Pakistan

    Pakistan is still home to a 20,000 strong Sikh community scattered througout all the provinces and territories of the country. They play an integral part (though little reported) in the economic and political life of the country. But they play a vital cultural part in maintaining historical Sikh shrines in Pakistan. And it is encouraging to see 10's of thousands of Sikhs from India and other countries freely coming to Pakistan and visiting their holy shrines.

    http://www.khaleejtimes.com/subcont.htm


    Sikh congregation lined up

    From our correspondent
    LAHORE - The biggest-ever Sikh congregation in Pakistan will be held at Panja Sahib and Nankana Sahib from November 6 to 13.

    Around 13,000 to 15,000 Sikhs are expected to visit their holy shrines in different parts of Pakistan this year, according to Lt-General (retd) Javed Nasir, the chairman of the Evacuee Property Trust Board.

    He said at a news conference that the number of Sikh pilgrims visiting Pakistan each year had never exceeded 5,000, about 3,000 form India and 500 to 1,000 from other parts of the world. He said despite the fact that the government of India claiming to be acting on 'behalf of the Sikh community' had announced a boycott of Sikh shrines in Pakistan, over 400 pilgrims from India visited their shrines last year. This time the number would cross all previous records. He said that the Pakistan High Commission in India alone had issued over 3,000 visas to Sikhs, about 2,000 of them from East Punjab.

    General Nasir said about 4,000 Sikhs were expected from the United States, Canada, Europe, Malaysia, Singapore, Iran, the UAE, Afghanistan and about 5,000 Sikhs would come from Federally Administered Tribal Areas. From India, the Sikh pilgrims will arrive in Lahore by train on November 6. From November 6 to 9 the pilgrims will stay at Panja Sahib and from November 10 to 12 at Nankana Sahib. On November 12 and 13 the pilgrims will stay at Dera Sahib in Lahore.

    The Lahorites, he said, would host a grand reception in honour of the pilgrims at Shalimar Garden. The pilgrims from India would leave for home on November 14 by train.

    The President of Pakistan will visit Nankana Sahib on November 11 to extend an official welcome to the pilgrims. He would attend the Saropa celebrations.

    According to General Nasir, since partition over 1,600,000 Sikhs have been killed in India. He said 12,000 Sikhs were murdered in Delhi alone after the assassination of former Indian prime minister Indira Gandhi. He said 60,000 Sikhs had been jailed in India on different charges since 1986. He also said that about 1,200,000 Muslims had so far been killed in the biggest democracy in the world on discriminatory grounds. He said that according to the Indian Press, some 70,000 Kashmiris had been killed in Kashmir. He said the minorities in the biggest democracy were being subjected to worst kind of victimisation.


    #2
    >>He said despite the fact that the government of India claiming to be acting on 'behalf of the Sikh community' had announced a boycott of Sikh shrines in Pakistan, over 400 pilgrims from India visited their shrines last year. <<

    HaiN, why do they boycott holy shrines in Pak? Ehh is that religiously allowed in Sikhism?

    Anyway, whatever will be celebrated, have fun

    Ammm.. Itís just a coincident, Iím reading a novel about Sikh riots in 1984, may I ask some questions from the book please? Itís not history book mind you.

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      #3
      Why does a Hindu government have the right to announce a boycott on behalf of all the Sikhs? After all a majority of Sikh shrines are located in Pakistani Punjab, and the Pakistani government has given them freedom to visit any Sikh shrine they want throughout Pakistan. In fact there are certain Sikh shrines in Pakistan like in Lahore where non-Sikhs i.e. Muslims are not allowed to visit (I believe?)- only Sikhs.

      In fact these celebrations will be opened by none other than President Rafique Tarrar of Pakistan - that shows the high degree of tolerance that Pakistan shows towards Sikhs and their holy shrines. India should forget national disputes when it comes to the Sikh religious shrines in Pakistan - it is a pity they continue to show their intolerance of Muslims and Sikhs in their attitude towards this issue.

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        #4
        The way for salvation for sikhs is Khalistan extracted out of India. India is not sincere to any of its minority people including sikhs. We should support the Khalistan movement of Sikhs and help them get their freedom from India.

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          #5
          Musalman very true - the Sikhs need to complete their struggle for Khalistan, and we in Pakistan should give them moral support.

          I mean who are the Hindu Indian governemnt to speak on behalf of the Sikhs! - after what these butchers did to the Sikhs in the 1980's. They killed 12,000 Sikhs in a matter of Days in Delhi in Oct/Nov 1984 - one of thw orst massacres in Indian history!

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            #6
            Have you not got anything good to say Sajdad - how about your opinion on why Hindu fundo's should stop Sikhs visiting their holy shrines in Pakistan?

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              #7
              >>>>the Sikhs need to complete their struggle for Khalistan, and we in Pakistan should give them moral support.

              I agree.. We need to go beyond our hangover of what Sikhs did to muslims during the partition much like how we have gotten over what bengalis did to us in '71.

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                #8
                there is no popular separatist movement in Pakistan, sadly mistaken, it is quite illusive to think of it in real terms, i wonder where most people get their information, tabloids may be. Let India do whatever they think they can do, we do not care, muslims will follow their own ideology of uniting as one Ummah. India any way will be a minor player in future world events, contrary to what most indians think.

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                  #9
                  Ghalib said -

                  " We need to go beyond our hangover of what Sikhs did to muslims during the partition much like how we have gotten over what bengalis did to us in '71."

                  Very true dude! Sikhs and Pakistan have a lot in common... both have suffered as a result of Indian Hindu designs, and Indian Hindu's cannot accept the INDEPENDENT existence of both to this day.


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                    #10
                    India should definitely lift it's ban on sikhs visiting their holy sites in Pakistan. It seems that Indian governments seem to think that only Indian troops should be allowed to step foot in sikh temples, as in the storming of the Golden Temple.

                    Indian government take note:

                    Sikh temples are also used as p[laces of worship by many sikhs, not just a place for target practice for Indian soldiers. Let the sikhs come and see their holy places in Pakistan. What are you afraid of? That they might find the toleration amongst Pakistanis compares too well next to the BJPs?

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                      #11
                      Even our national airline PIA for all its faults offers a comprehensive Adventure tour for Sikh Pilgrims, to go an visit their holy shrines in Punjab and NWFP.

                      Here are some details:-
                      http://www.fly-pia.com/pia_tour/tour_3a.htm

                      Introduction


                      Pakistan is the land of love, peace and hospitality. Country is the paradise for the holiday makers, adventure, culture and nature lovers, trekkers and mountaineers, students of history and archaeology, sports enthusiasts of all ages. It is also a land of light, spiritual endowment, a resting place for many spiritual saints from all religions, be it the Sufi mystics of Islam, Hindu Tiraths dating back as 3000 B.C, the disciples of Buddha attaining "nirvana" buried under the remains of Gandhara civilization flourished in the third century B.C, and also the birth place of Sihkism. Guru Nanak, the founder of Sikh religion was born near Lahore in 1469 A.D and after that Sikhism arose in the Indo-Pakistan sub-continent.

                      Guru Nanak travailed extensively for about 15 years to attain real wisdom by meditation and study. In the later days of his life he settled down at Kartarpur, in Narowal Tahsil of Sialkot District and died their at the age of 70 years.

                      The Sikh Gurdwaras have served more than a place of worship. They have served as school' a meeting place and a resthouse for travelers in addition to enshrining the Granth Sahib. All Gurdwaras and Sikh shrines in Pakistan are declared sacred places and are well maintained by the Government.

                      Some sacred places in Lahore / Rawalpindi / Peshawar


                      Lahore:
                      - Samadh of Maharaja Ranjit Singh
                      - Shrine of Guru Aryan Dev
                      - Dera Baba Khuda Singh
                      - Shahid Ganj
                      - Samadh of Bhai Vasti Ram
                      - Samadh of Jamadar Khushal Singh
                      - Samadh of Maharaja Sher Singh
                      - Samadh of Raja Suchet Singh and Udham Singh
                      - Samadh of Raja Teja Singh
                      - Thakhurdwara of Raja Teja Singh
                      - Samadh of Sardar Jawahir Singh

                      Rawalpindi:
                      - Gurdwara Panja Sahib, Hasan Abdal
                      - Gurdawara Bhai Manni Singh
                      - Gurdwara Narankari
                      - Gurdwara Singh Sabha
                      - Darbar Baba Khem Singh

                      Peshawar:
                      - Gurwara at Jamrud
                      - Samadh of Bhai Phola Singh at Nowshera
                      - Gurdwara Jogan Shah at Peshawar

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                        #12
                        Ok, I hereby invite Rani to come and visit some of the places where her ancestors used to worship. Don't forget the polaroids!

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                          #13
                          Mr Extreme said -

                          " Ok, I hereby invite Rani to come and visit some of the places where her ancestors used to worship. Don't forget the polaroids!"

                          BOY YOU ARE ASKING FOR IT!


                          P.S. Rani travel by PIA!

                          [This message has been edited by Malik73 (edited November 02, 2000).]

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                            #14
                            Hey guys???? i dont think she's listening

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                              #15
                              I wonder if any of our Sikh participants have ever gone to Pakistan to see the holy shrines?

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