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    Russian President Putin for better ties with Pakistan

    Russian President Putin for better ties with Pakistan
    By Ahmad Hasan Alvi

    ISLAMABAD, Sept 21: Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday his country assigned "special importance" to its relations with Pakistan, and stressed the need for establishing "mutually beneficial bilateral cooperation".

    Mr Putin was speaking at a ceremony where Pakistan ambassador to the Russian Federation, Syed Iftikhar Murshed, had presented his credentials to him, said a press release of the Pakistan Embassy in Moscow issued here on Thursday.

    President Putin referred to his recent meeting with the chief executive, Gen Pervez Musharraf, in New York. He described the meeting as "very positive".

    The ambassador conveyed warm greetings and good wishes from the president and the chief executive to the Russian president which were warmly reciprocated.

    Masood Haider adds from New York: Pakistan and Russia reaffirmed their support to the efforts being made by the UN secretary-general's special representative as well as under the "Six-plus-Two" mechanism to resolve the Afghanistan conflict.

    At a meeting on the sidelines of the General Assembly session on Tuesday, Foreign Minister Abdul Sattar and Russian Foreign Minister Igor S. Ivanov held in-depth discussions on the Afghan situation.

    They also stressed the need for strengthening bilateral cooperation. They expressed satisfaction over the recent ministerial meeting of the Six-plus-Two group, and concurred that there could be no military solution to the Afghan conflict.

    Mr Sattar welcomed President Putin's decision to send his special envoy to Pakistan. During the past week, Mr Sattar had held meetings with the foreign ministers of Belgium, Bhutan, Cuba, Germany, Kuwait, Laos, Libya, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey, US, and Vietnam. The ministers had evinced understanding and desire to promote cooperation with Pakistan.

    In a statement, Mr Sattar said: "several leaders expressed understanding for Pakistan's moratorium on further nuclear tests. They welcomed the chief executive's statement that Pakistan was not the first to conduct nuclear tests in 1998, and would not be the first to resume such tests.

    "At the same time, they expressed hope that Pakistan would soon join the large majority of states that have signed (the) CTBT. Important developed states, including Japan and the United States, have indicated willingness to resume economic assistance if Pakistan signs the treaty."
    http://www.dawn.com/2000/09/22/top2.htm


    Now this what i think.
    We screw the US, drop a great deal of agreements, and favour more China and Russia.
    We do what Nasser did during the Cold war.
    Keep both countries on edge for our cooperation in exchange for heavy development in pakistan.
    We should promote Pakistan in Russia for investment and change our stance towards a more Russia orinetated trade and military stance.
    Yes Russian military is going down.
    But wouldn't be great to get plans for all the russian military India has - getting the specs and plans would help our military intel greatly.
    Also with both Russia and China helping our nuclear program we could go far at a cheaper rate.
    However we must under any circumstances not offend and alienate the Chinese.
    We this change in stance the US with get worried to say the least.
    Without a strong ally in pakistan, the taliban is out of hand, and since we are the strongest islamic nation both militarally and politically, it is going to be tough for them.
    And with out ties and thus control over us, indian and US relations will not go further as the Indians want the US to rein in the Pakistanis.
    Then ofcourse it all comes down to who pays more for our help.
    Along with Russia we should create strong ties with Iran.
    Export military and IT technology.
    Then have conventional trade with them.
    Keep them as close as the Taliban without controling them.
    But ALWAYS KEEP CHINA!!!!!
    We should build an effective bloc of China, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran.
    But keep the Afghanistan equation out for some time.
    We should forge many trade deals with Iran first.

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    #2
    Yes he is going to india.
    But that has nothing to do with what i wrote.
    If you care to discuss who pakistan FP should be implemented feel free.
    There is no need to bring in India when everu pakistan is mentioned.
    Also he is sending a special envoy to discuss the afghanistan issue and UN rules according to the current state of the taliban.


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      #3
      Putin was one of the leaders who met the CE in New York and its very good news that he is putting special importance on relations with Pakistan. The Russians are good diplomats - they see India sucking up to the USA and so they are building a better relationship with PAK to balance this off.

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        #4
        Well the russians did do that in Tashkent, During the afghanistan issue and many other times.
        Why not now??
        He could have refused to meet us.
        Like the some EU leaders did!!!!

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          #5
          Chilli - and then why did Putin go out of his way to meet the CE in New York the other week? Just passing by was he? - thats why did not meet his old Indian ally Vajpayee?

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            #6
            And now President Putin sis ending is special envoy to Pakistan to talk to the CE - another sign of Pakistan's growing links with Russia...
            http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/wor...000/941290.stm

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              #7
              Originally posted by Malik73:
              Putin was one of the leaders who met the CE in New York and its very good news that he is putting special importance on relations with Pakistan. The Russians are good diplomats - they see India sucking up to the USA and so they are building a better relationship with PAK to balance this off.
              they already warned few months ago that Pak will be bombed if they shelter Chechen leaders and Pak promptly expelled Chechen rebels. So the relation is improving.

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                #8
                ZZ, stop lying. They threatened to bomb Afghanistan, and what happened in response: stepped-up offensive against the Russian soldiers in Chechnea..

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                  #9
                  ZZ seems to tripping up on many of his facts nowdays... but thats probably panic. Maybe ZZ would like to provide us proof of what the Russians "threatened" to do to PAK.

                  Outlaw has correctly pointed out the FACTS and PAK-Russian relations continue to bloom despit the desperate tactics of Indians!

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                    #10
                    ZZ what is that stuff you have been smoking??
                    What did you convert to rastifarianism???

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                      #11
                      This seems to be a case of short memory. People praising Russia, for having closer ties with Pakistan were crying in other posts about massacre of Bosnians, Chechins, and Albanians, knowing that those massacres had full support of Russians. This shows height of hypocrisy.

                      FARID

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                        #12
                        Yup I guess this is right strategy since West and US has dumped long time cold war friend (Pakistan) in favor of India.

                        Form what I can see now, in the world politics there is no more loyalties but collaboration on basis of economic needs. Pakistan must also keep close ties with china and also its neighbors like Iran.

                        Lets see what will be Washington's response to these changes.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Farid:
                          This seems to be a case of short memory. People praising Russia, for having closer ties with Pakistan were crying in other posts about massacre of Bosnians, Chechins, and Albanians, knowing that those massacres had full support of Russians. This shows height of hypocrisy.

                          FARID

                          Farid I know the Russian support for massacre but have you forgot the american support during 1965 and 1971 war for india. Do you also forgot the american boming in Iraq? What I am saying is when it comes to muslim against non muslim these countries always support the non muslims and they all are united in doing this. The prime example is Iraq.

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                            #14
                            Farid chum, we aren't prasing Russia.
                            What we are praising is that pakistan is getting out of the role of being America's slave.
                            We have the right to favour russia.
                            Yes we don't agree with them on major issues like kashmir, chechnya bosnia etc.
                            But does that mean we can't have any ties with them at all??
                            We should have kept ties with russia and the US and remained non-aligned like India and Egypt.
                            However we did the wrong thing in retrospect.
                            So what, we can make up for it now.
                            Second this will give pakistan a chance to come out its political role as the slave of the US.
                            We can keep relations with who we want when we want.

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                            CROIRE A L'INCROYABLE
                            You can't fix stupid. So might as well troll them!

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                              #15
                              Farid bhai why do you always have to see the negative in everything? Cheer up buddy

                              Pakistan's foreign policy is taking a turn for the better and this has in fact been helped by the reaction of the USA to the coup last October. It has made the government think about diversifying our foreign policy choices. A year on Pakistan has achieved a closer to relationship to Russia than ever before, has greatly expanded our partnership with China, made breakthrough's with the UK, increased cooperation with Iran and built better ties with states like Indonesia and Saudi Arabia - what brilliant diplomacy!

                              [This message has been edited by Malik73 (edited September 27, 2000).]

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