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    why NAB is not allowed to investigate about properties of ARMY officers..

    why nab is not allow to investigate about properties and accounts of army officers religions leaders and judges

    #2
    Oh Dear

    you are innocent. Try to understand that in Pakistan "Army" is the only "item" which is corruption free. They don't need to do this coz they have so many legal ways to do so.

    Judges have very little price, it doesn't matter who rule, but money and DANDA rule all over justice.

    Religious leaders are real "innocent" involve only in homosex.

    NAB stands for "Nawaz and Benazir", although both are corrupt.

    There could be many honest Army personals, Religious leaders, Politicians, Burecrates, Judges, Police personals, Tax officers and in every department of life but I beleive that you cannot call a single department as a whole to be honest. Army is also corrupt as department.

    dont you see the big empires of Army Generals?

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      #3
      ya ok
      as hommod ur rehman report say..........

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        #4
        Dear Brother

        We must admit that all of our departments are corrupt. And if Gen Musharraf is sincere, he should also take severe actions against corrupt Generals (Retired & On-duty). But I think it is not possible for General Musharraf to cut the branch where he sits.

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          #5
          Because Pakistan Army is not your Qaumi Assembly... they have their own internal ways to deal with corruption. They should and would stick to those.

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            #6
            Re: why NAB is not allowed to investigate about properties of ARMY officers..

            Originally posted by tniaz:
            why nab is not allow to investigate about properties and accounts of army officers religions leaders and judges
            Cause as BBC commented " Most countries have an Army, In Pakistan the Army has a country" . It's that simple...

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              #7
              Re: Re: why NAB is not allowed to investigate about properties of ARMY officers..

              Originally posted by AB:


              Cause as BBC commented " Most countries have an Army, In Pakistan the Army has a country" . It's that simple...
              well said. the latter is certainly truer than the former but sometimes (particularly from around the infamous referendum) there's cause to wonder if it is more layered than that. i.o.w, army has the country, but who has the army? not the generals...not any more.

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                #8
                Re: Re: Re: why NAB is not allowed to investigate about properties of ARMY officers..

                Originally posted by Jagjeevan:


                well said. the latter is certainly truer than the former but sometimes (particularly from around the infamous referendum) there's cause to wonder if it is more layered than that. i.o.w, army has the country, but who has the army? not the generals...not any more.
                This is in the situation in Algeria too & Indian's should also be able to get good governance out of the ones we elect & freedom from greedy inefficient bureaucrats, police , judiciary etc. Seems we can change our Pols at will, but the new crop is no better, its seems a chronic case of "the hedge eating the garden" in our sub continent. Poor, The People.

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                  #9
                  NAB - No Armyman (should/to be) Bothered.

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                    #10
                    Re: why NAB is not allowed to investigate about properties of ARMY officers..

                    Originally posted by tniaz:
                    why nab is not allow to investigate about properties and accounts of army officers religions leaders and judges
                    NAB is allowed to investigate Armymen. Here's an example of Mansur ul-Haq.

                    Former head of Pakistan navy disciplined

                    A former Chief Admiral of the Pakistani navy has been stripped of his military honours and fined millions of dollars following his conviction on charges of corruption.

                    Mansur ul-Haq admitted receiving money from various foreign defence contractors while he was Chief of Naval Staff between 1994 and 1997.

                    He fled to the United States four years ago.

                    But he was arrested by the American authorities last year and returned to Pakistan at the request of Islamabad's National Accountability Bureau.

                    He has agreed to pay $7.5m to the state in order to avoid a prison term.

                    He has also been barred from holding public office for the next ten years and will not be entitled to a state pension.

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                      #11
                      So a person who stole $50 million gives back $7.5 million is free to live outside prison and you call it justice?

                      Read this

                      http://www.jang-group.com/thenews/co.../shafqat39.htm

                      The way Mr Mansur ul Haq was molly coddled is a scandal. He was kept in a comfortable rest house and the fine imposed on him was just a pittance of what he stole. The military may think a great deal about the fact that he was stripped of rank but it cuts no ice with the people.
                      Compare this to Mr.10% Zardari who is also a ****** but a civilian ******.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Pakistan99:
                        Because Pakistan Army is not your Qaumi Assembly... they have their own internal ways to deal with corruption.
                        What is that? Distribute the loot based on rank?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Qismat77:
                          So a person who stole $50 million gives back $7 million is free to live outside prison and you call it justice?
                          Don't mixed apple with organes, i.e Gen Beg with Mansur-ul-haq. Your logic is absurd.

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                            #14
                            Re: Re: why NAB is not allowed to investigate about properties of ARMY officers..

                            Originally posted by Pakistani Tiger:


                            NAB is allowed to investigate Armymen. Here's an example of Mansur ul-Haq.


                            He has agreed to pay $7.5m to the state in order to avoid a prison term.

                            He has also been barred from holding public office for the next ten years and will not be entitled to a state pension.[/b]
                            Seems more like a deal to be , may be he fled with other's share of the loot . Tell me when they learn to apply the law even handedly most of the time and when Pak ctually ceases to become "General's Pvt. Ltd".A
                            business proposition at gun point is actualy caled "extortion" in the rest of the world.

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                              #15
                              Re: Re: Re: why NAB is not allowed to investigate about properties of ARMY officers..

                              Originally posted by AB:


                              Seems more like a deal to be , may be he fled with other's share of the loot . Tell me when they learn to apply the law even handedly most of the time and when Pak ctually ceases to become "General's Pvt. Ltd".A
                              business proposition at gun point is actualy caled "extortion" in the rest of the world.
                              Abdul,

                              Doesn't matter if it seems like deal to you.

                              FYI: Case of Mansur-ul-haq is b/w 1994-97. Corruption in Pakistan has been rooted out, not entirely but it has been eliminated to some extent; and today we stand at 25th position prior to military regime, we were 2nd most corrupt country.

                              Plus, there were no such thing NAB before. This is the first time Pakistan set up an Accountability Buereau, which we hoped in the Democractic Govts.

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