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    USA: Shifting balance of power in this region

    The New York Times Published following two articles covering Bush's visit to India & Pakistan the bottom line is

    "Shifting balance of power in the region"
    "India Getting a better Bargain"

    U.S. Gives India Applause, Pakistan a Pat on the Back


    Bush Rules Out a Nuclear Deal With Pakistanis

    What say People

    #2
    Re: USA: Shifting balance of power in this region

    US do what they want or which is beneficial to their own interest.
    As it is clear in Bush's India visit that now US is looking to get some breathing space and bigger Pie in India's market and indian economic boom.Bush say it at least 20 times in this visit about Indian growing middle class,elite class ,international trade,retail and insurance sector ,etc. He asked for more open economy and talk about Indian's in US.

    India should be careful about uncle Sam's intention.

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      #3
      Re: USA: Shifting balance of power in this region

      Originally posted by abhiinalwar
      US do what they want or which is beneficial to their own interest.

      India should be careful about uncle Sam's intention.
      You hit the nail right on the head my friend... there are no friends or enemies but INTERESTs...

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?...ectID=10332349

      An excerpt

      Of course it must be India - but in that case, why not say so? Is it
      possible that the Bush Administration wants something from India? Yes,
      it does. It wants India to become the South Asian anchor of its
      strategy for "containing" China militarily


      to cope with the rise of China to great-power status". They want to
      encircle China with a ring of American allies in a reprise of the US
      containment strategy against the Soviet Union in the 50s and 60s. In
      this strategy India is the main prize

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        #4
        Re: USA: Shifting balance of power in this region

        I dont think that the Indians will fall for this. The US is clearly setting up the Indians to fight with China. India has always had a fairly independant foreign policy, Im not sure they will fall for the American trap.
        In fact I suspect the Americans will try to negotiate an end to the Kashmir issue so the Indians can move on to challenge the Chinese instead of being tied up in regional issues in South Asia

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          #5
          Re: USA: Shifting balance of power in this region

          Originally posted by abhiinalwar
          India should be careful about uncle Sam's intention.
          Don't you have confidence in Manmohan Singh's leadership? He was head over heals on this deal.
          "Ana mazloom hussein"
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA1L18wKHzY&feature=related
          http://www.tebyan.net/Religion_Thoughts/Articles/Miscellaneous/2008/1/29/59771.html

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            #6
            Re: USA: Shifting balance of power in this region

            Originally posted by MALIK_786
            I dont think that the Indians will fall for this.
            Indians won't fall for WHAT? You mean they will refuse the deal with the US tomorrow?
            "Ana mazloom hussein"
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA1L18wKHzY&feature=related
            http://www.tebyan.net/Religion_Thoughts/Articles/Miscellaneous/2008/1/29/59771.html

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              #7
              Re: USA: Shifting balance of power in this region

              Originally posted by Prince Abbas
              Indians won't fall for WHAT? You mean they will refuse the deal with the US tomorrow?
              No genious. Read between the lines. This deal is clearly an attempt by the Americans to maneouver the Indians as their proxy against China
              I mean to say that Indian foreign policy is unlikely to go in the direction US wants

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                #8
                Re: USA: Shifting balance of power in this region

                bush didn't exactly keep this a secret did he? he said he wants the gigantic Indian market. We have strength in numbers, that's a lot of cars and tvs. plus I'm sure you guys know what he meant by "2 different histories" re nuclear proliferation. AQK made this easy for India.

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                  #9
                  Re: USA: Shifting balance of power in this region

                  Originally posted by Prince Abbas
                  Don't you have confidence in Manmohan Singh's leadership? He was head over heals on this deal.
                  The international politics goes beyond parties and individuals. Hence its not only about Manmohan Singh.
                  India needs the deal since it needs nuclear power to power growth, Oil bill is really getting a bigger and bigger burden. Manmohan Singh being ex RBI governor and Finance minister understands that. There is already strategic plan to get 25% of power need from nuclear energy. Where do we get fuel from for that with nobody providing that without signing NPT. Hence this is great way out for India, NO signing NPT and still getting fuel for its nuclear reactors..... (even most vocal opponent Australia, seems to be saying yes for that during this week)...
                  For doing this Uncle Sam will ask for part of the pie (growth).. for sure....
                  as well bully against China is in my understanding is again based more on econmonics, since US economy is becoming more and more dependent on Chinese imports, sure US will like to see that reduce as well...
                  On wrong foot Indian democratic system also gives them a chance to manipulate it a bit for US interests (before you guys jump, I mean lobbying - that happens in any system based on votes - including US Congress).
                  So over all win win at this time.

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                    #10
                    Re: USA: Shifting balance of power in this region

                    Originally posted by MALIK_786
                    No genious. Read between the lines. This deal is clearly an attempt by the Americans to maneouver the Indians as their proxy against China
                    I mean to say that Indian foreign policy is unlikely to go in the direction US wants

                    The deal is already signed and delivered.. its just a mater of time.. Besides beggers cannot be chosers. India was in bed with USSR and America is far richer then teh evil empire.

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                      #11
                      Re: USA: Shifting balance of power in this region

                      N-deal capped India's deterrence: Brajesh Mishra

                      India did essentially need civil-nuclear cooperation with the US for its energy requirements, but the deal it sealed during President George Bush's visit has instead capped New Delhi's deterrence capabilities, former national security advisor Brajesh Mishra has said. "All I am saying is that the availability of fissile material has been curtailed," Mishra said in an interview to CNBC for its India Tonight programme. The India-US agreement requires New Delhi to put two-thirds of its 22 nuclear reactors, as against six at present, under international safeguards, a phenomenon he feared could reduce fissile availability for nuclear deterrence.

                      Also, he said the government was required to plan its response to future threats afresh in the light of the new deal. "We have a no-first-use (nuclear) doctrine, which means the response to any nuclear, chemical attack has to be massive," he remarked and nodded when asked if he believed the pact would impact India's response to such a situtation. Mishra, who was the national security advisor in the National Democratic Alliance government, however, praised the ruling United Progressive Alliance for the progress in relations with the US. "I hope there is a shift (in ties with Washington) and hope it is moving forward," he said. On the whole, he described the nuclear deal as key to India's energy requirements. "We should understand that international cooperation in our civil-nuclear energy cooperation programme is essential. It was necessary. We can't get away with it," Mishra said.

                      http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/mar/07ndeal3.htm

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                        #12
                        Re: USA: Shifting balance of power in this region

                        Thanks for the article, its good to read both the views.......

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                          #13
                          Re: USA: Shifting balance of power in this region

                          Originally posted by The Curmudgeon
                          bush didn't exactly keep this a secret did he? he said he wants the gigantic Indian market. We have strength in numbers, that's a lot of cars and tvs. plus I'm sure you guys know what he meant by "2 different histories" re nuclear proliferation. AQK made this easy for India.
                          Actually America wanted AQ Khan story out as it chose to ignore the help that indian scientists provided to Iraq and even Iran.

                          As for any deal with US, Indians might go 'heads over heels' as long as they can theoretically "down" Pakistan & China!

                          This emotionalism of S. Asia is the reason that this region will never be able to reach the calibre of China (of which it is already accepted).

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                            #14
                            Re: USA: Shifting balance of power in this region

                            Originally posted by abhiinalwar
                            US do what they want or which is beneficial to their own interest.
                            As it is clear in Bush's India visit that now US is looking to get some breathing space and bigger Pie in India's market and indian economic boom.Bush say it at least 20 times in this visit about Indian growing middle class,elite class ,international trade,retail and insurance sector ,etc. He asked for more open economy and talk about Indian's in US.

                            India should be careful about uncle Sam's intention.
                            well said friend, india should not change its foolproof policy for last 50 years.

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                              #15
                              Re: USA: Shifting balance of power in this region

                              Originally posted by Soomro
                              Actually America wanted AQ Khan story out as it chose to ignore the help that indian scientists provided to Iraq and even Iran.

                              As for any deal with US, Indians might go 'heads over heels' as long as they can theoretically "down" Pakistan & China!

                              This emotionalism of S. Asia is the reason that this region will never be able to reach the calibre of China (of which it is already accepted).
                              Blinded by chinese love?? he even let go his own country.

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