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    In what way are Indian Jammat, Deobandis
    The following is an interview with Qazi of the Jamaat in Pakistan
    A main leader of fundamentalists

    This interview was published in February 1999 issue
    of "Jamhooria Islamia" a monthly Baluchi magazine published
    from Panj-gar

    This is translated for information purposes only. The
    poster need not be supportive of the ideas presented in the

    Thanks to Jamil Baloch and Omar Nasr-Ullah who did the
    translation. --

    Interview with Nawabzadaa Nabiullah Khan

    Interviewed by Jalil Amir ---
    Qlease tell us about your stay with Qazi Hussain Ahmed

    A:Qazi has two bungalows in Peshawar. We spent lot of time
    in both the houses. The first house is where his family
    lived and the second house was his office and rest house.
    But he used to meet all his friends and relatives and
    political workers only in his family house. He made sure at
    least for 3 days in a week, Qazi and his close friends used
    to spend time in his rest house. Unlike his family house,
    the rest house had all the amenities that one can think of.
    It had 36-inch television. 2 satellite dishes to receive
    all kinds of telecasts from all over the world. He had made
    extensive notes on all the telecasts. We used to discuss
    all the things under the sun in his rest house.

    I had a habit of drinking small amounts of wine. Qazi never
    drank or smoked. Qazi knew about my weakness for wine. He
    advised me not to drink and asked me to follow the steps of
    Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) . Though I had a habit of drinking
    only in very small amounts of fine wine just before dinner,
    on Qazi's insistence, I left that habit. When I was
    studying in engineering college, I had started the habit of
    smoking too. I left that habit after Qazi's advice on

    I stayed with Qazi for almost 6 years in Peshawar. I did
    not agree to some of the strategies used by JI during the
    after Zia years. Qazi is a very practical man while I was
    more of an idealist at that time. I was insisting that the
    JI should not rely on ballot as the only route to power.
    Qazi was insisting that ballot is the only way for JI to
    come to power in Pakistan. This introduced a sense of
    alienation between Qazi and me. Hence when I went to
    Baluchistan to meet my parents, I stayed back rather than
    going back to Peshawar. Even though almost weekly once we
    talk over phone, Qazi never called me back to stay with him
    and I found my work as the Jamaat teacher in Quetta where I
    stay now with my parents and family.

    Yet, my years with Qazi in Peshawar and around the world
    with him were the most satisfying years in my life

    Q: What are Qazi's views on Islam and Prophet Mohammad

    A: Qazi was a great admirer and student of Prophet Mohammad
    (PBUH) . He modeled his whole thoughts and life on the life
    and teachings of Mohammad (PBUH). I was astounded many
    times by Qazi when he does a small thing, he will
    immediately compare that incident with an incident in Al-
    Hadith and explain that he did what Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)
    did 10 centuries ago. I had never seen a person who had
    modeled his whole life on sayings and teachings of Prophet
    Mohammad (PBUH) like Qazi.

    Q: The women issue is very controversial nowadays. Taliban
    and some fundamentalist organizations restrict the freedom
    of women. While some progressive Muslim intellectuals are
    insisting that the women are equal to men in all spheres.
    What are Qazi's views on women?

    A: As I said earlier, the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)'s views
    on women are the exact views of Qazi. Equality of men and
    women is stupidity. What men can do, women cannot do and
    what women can do, men cannot do. Women are weak physically
    and mentally compared to men. For this we do not need any
    proof other than to just look at men and women. Men have to
    take care of women all the time. If some women do not have
    any male relatives, then they have to find a man and marry
    him so that he will take care of her. Women should not have
    life outside the family. Education can be provided to them
    but not to compete with men in public. Neither they can
    fight in war nor they can be of use in peacetime politics.
    Qazi had said once that JI comes to power in Pakistan, he
    will abolish the voting rights of women and minorities.
    Only the Muslim men can participate in voting or standing
    for elections. When I asked the proof from Hadiths, he had
    quoted many Hadiths in support of that. I asked him why is
    that it is never talked openly in the public by Jamaat.
    Qazi had said that the hints are all over the place. But JI
    did not make it a big issue since the women who currently
    have the voting may vote against JI in the elections if
    such a thing is said openly. For this I was against. in my
    opinion, since all the main leaders of Jamaat believes that
    women will not have voting rights after they come to power,
    they should openly say that. If you do not say now and then
    you remove the voting rights later when you come to power,
    that is going to build a resentment among the people. But
    Qazi was firmly of the opinion that JI should not say that

    Q:That brings us to the question of minorities. Will they
    have to pay Jizya tax?

    A:Yes. They have to pay the tax. As explained by Qazi, the
    idea of Jizya is not protection money. But it is a monetary
    force on the non-Muslim to convert to Islam. Once the
    Jamaat comes to power, the minorities will be induced
    (forced) to become Muslims either by monetary or
    psychological factors. JI is already equating the India
    with Hindus so that the Hindus of Pakistan will be forced
    to become Muslims. This was very successful strategy during
    the Babri Masjid riots. JI actively involved in destroying
    the Hindu temples in Punjab and Sindh. We ordered the
    destruction of the Hindu family property too. But our main
    aim was to destroy the Hindu temples. We wrote the JI
    pamphlets that destroying each pagan temple make a Muslim
    move closer to heaven of Allah. We used the Hadiths in all
    the pamphlets. Babar destroyed the Ram temple in Ayodhya.
    Because he was a true believer. The same way every Muslim
    should take upon himself to destroy the Hindu temples in
    Pakistan. Our idea was to encourage the Muslims of India
    also to destroy the Hindu temples in India. But this was
    not met with much success since the Hindu police in India
    started attacking the Muslims who were doing the Allah's

    Q: What kind of government that JI envisages for Pakistan?

    A: It will be the Sharia govt. Sharia will be made our
    constitution so that the eminent Muslim scholars who had
    completed the schooling in Madrassas will be appointed as
    the Judges in every court. Qazi wanted to make the
    presidium on the same model as the Khalifa. Presently our
    ideas is that the entire top leadership of JI as well as
    all three military Generals will be part of the presidium
    for which the Qazi will be the Kalifa. We are keenly
    watching the progress of Taliban and learning from it. We
    are impressed with the Taliban on the women issue,
    minorities issue and law and order issue. Mullah Omar is a
    great friend of Qazi. Omar had visited his house many
    times. In the tentative talks, we had decided to form union
    of Pakistan and Afghanistan once the right conditions are
    set in Pakistan (i.e. the JI government in Pakistan). Our
    motto is Constant Jihad. The idea is to keep Pakistan in a
    constant state of Jihad all the time. Qazi's vision is that
    Pakistan will be center of the new Islamic Empire that
    stretches from Burma to Afghanistan and from Srilanka to
    Tajikistan including Kashmir. Towards that end, Jamaat will
    use all tactics from terrorism in the kafir-controlled
    areas to negotiations in the Muslim controlled areas.
    Already the Jamaat leaders of Bangladesh and Jamaat leaders
    of India had accepted the primacy of Pakistani leadership
    in this regard.

    Q: Do they come to Pakistan?

    A: Yes. We had made arrangements once in Peshawar and
    another time in Multan during the Zia time. But the
    understanding remains even now.

    Q: What about Srilanka and Burma?

    A: Both are Buddhist nations. For that matter even
    Baluchistan and Afghanistan were Buddhist once while Sindh
    and Punjab were Hindu earlier. Buddhists are generally
    weaker in matters of faith. Hence we hope they will become
    Muslim with a little pressure. But that will happen only
    after Jamaat conquers first Pakistan and then India.

    Q: What are the plans for India? It looks like entire India
    policy of Jamaat revolves around Kashmir.

    A: Yes that is true. But that is for a very good reason.
    See Kashmir is like a keystone that sits on a top of the
    arch. It is true that the arch holds the entire weight of
    the keystone. But if you remove the keystone, then the
    whole arch falls down. That is why it is called keystone.
    Kashmir is the keystone for India. Once you remove that,
    then India can no longer be secular and it will not be a
    united country either. like the stones of the arch, all the
    bricks will fall down. Qazi impressed this idea upon Zia.
    Hence Zia started the Operation Topac. Operation Topac's
    idea is not to get Kashmir for Pakistan as thought of by
    Indian analysts. Operation Topac is much more. The ultimate
    aim of Operation Topac is to make India a million pieces so
    that it is easy for Pakistan to swallow India once piece at
    a time. That is why Pakistan was encouraging the militancy
    movements all over India. Once Kashmir is taken out, these
    militancy movements will break India by asking the similar
    freedom for Nagaland, Kerala, Mizoram, Meghalaya, Manipur,
    Assam, Jharkand, Tamil Nadu, West Bengal and Khalistan. But
    Benazir destroyed our whole plan by giving away the details
    of the operation Topac to Indian govt. led by Rajiv Gandhi.
    That was a big set back for our vision. But yet we are
    moving ahead.

    Q: I heard that she gave away only details about Khalistan

    A: That is true. In my opinion, that is why I think the
    damage is limited. India thinks and deals with separatist
    movements in different parts of India as if they are
    genuine movements even now. In that way, I say, the damage
    is limited.

    Q: Do you think if the states if India became independent
    countries, no such similar movement will start in Pakistan

    A: No. Jiye Sindh movement and small separatist movements
    in Baluchistan and Peshawar are contained. We are not going
    to deal with the separatism in Pakistan as India treats the
    separatists. It will be Taliban style. Actually we do not
    foresee any position for opposition in JI ruled Pakistan.
    Hence the BNP and Pakhtoonkwa leaders will be made

    A: Coming back to the same point, If India to become many
    countries how do you deal with the individual Hindu states.
    They may even become big enemies of Pakistan. Or they may
    again regroup to challenge Pakistan.

    A: Qazi and other people had already discussed this
    possibility. In our opinion, such a thing is not possible
    since the language and cultural differences between states
    in India are enormous. There is no language like Urdu to
    bind all Indians. English and not Hindi that is common
    language between all the states of India. Hence we have
    planned to start riots in each state against the
    neighborhood state people so that the states will always be
    at the state of war. For example there are lot of
    Kannadigas in TamilNadu and Telugu in Madras. We will start
    the anti -telugu riots in Madras, which will keep the
    Andhrapradesh and TamilNadu fighting. If we keep a bomb in
    Telugu Cinema Theater in Madras and keep a bomb in Tamil
    Movie Theater in Andhra, the war between Tamilnadu and
    Andhra will run for eternity. The similar things can be
    done in Assam cultural center in Bengal and Hindi prachar
    sabha in Orissa. Given the differences between the
    nationalities in India, the options for Pakistan are
    endless. Qazi's vision is to make entire India a 100%
    Muslim Nation. A United India, where Hindus are majority is
    an impediment to that. Like Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) made
    Muslims out of pagans of Arabia, Qazi also wants to make
    Muslims out of the pagans of India.

    Q: This is a great vision since this was not even possible
    for the Muslim dynasties and Moguls who ruled India for the
    last 700 years.

    A: True. That is because they had never really established
    the Muslim Empire. Though the Kings were Muslims they had
    entertained the Hindus in positions of power. When you make
    an unequivocal statement that only Muslims are voters and
    declare that India is Islamic republic, then automatically
    the people will become Muslims. Little bit of terror had to
    be applied to the heart of Hindus and Christians. I will
    give you a best example. The portions now constitute
    Pakistan had 25% Hindu population before Independence.
    After independence lot of Hindus migrated to India. Yet
    after the migration, Pakistani Hindu population was 15%. Do
    you know what is the percentage now? It is less than 1%.
    How was this made possible? How did the Hindus converted to
    Islam in a short span of 20 years whereas for 700 years
    they had never converted to Islam? That is purely because
    of the terror of the partition. That terror forced the
    Hindus who remained in Pakistan to become Muslims. Pure and
    simple. JI used similar techniques in Punjab and Sindh each
    time a riot breaks out in India, we had used that pretext
    to strike terror among the Hindus, Christians and
    Ahmaddiahs. The similar terror will be at the heart of the
    every non-Muslim both Hindu as well as Christian in coming
    years in entire India. Qazi is a analytical genius who
    knows every strategy that is used by Prophet Mohammad
    (PBUH) will be and should be used in India to achieve the
    total submission to Allah.

    Q: Do you envision a possibility that when the Kashmir
    becomes part of Pakistan, there could be large-scale riots
    in India against Indian Muslims? Hence unwittingly Kashmir
    could lead to more deaths of Indian Muslims and damage
    Islamic Ummah.

    A: Yes that is a possibility. But our ideology is based on
    Quran and Hadiths. Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) in numerous
    Hadiths and Allah in Quran had said that any Muslim who
    associates with a polytheist in a polytheist. Muslims
    cannot be friendly with a non-Muslim. This includes the
    Christians, Jews and Hindus. Also Mohammad (PBUH) says that
    even if the Muslim ruler is not good, the Muslims stay with
    the ruler than to go out to a non-Muslim country. Hadiths
    and Quran are very explicit regarding this. All the Muslims
    who did not migrate to Pakistan during Partition are in
    essence Hindus. They may think that they are Muslims. But
    not before Allah. They are as self-deluded as the
    Ahmaddiahs who think they are Muslims when everyone knows
    that they are not Muslims. Hence the Muslims of India who
    had decided to stay in India during partition are not
    Muslims and their progeny are not Muslim (since they did
    not migrate to Muslim lands). Another thing that I noticed
    in my journeys in India is that the Hindu farmers generally
    offer their entire harvest to their gods at the end of
    their harvesting season. This makes the entire crop as
    haram for Muslims. Yet these so called Muslims of India are
    forced to eat this food which was already offered to some
    other God other than Allah thallah. This is explicitly
    forbidden in Quran. And this is one of the serious problems
    of living in non-Muslim countries. Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)
    knew such things; that is why he ordered Muslims not to
    live in non-Muslim areas. Yet knowingly these so called
    Muslims live in India. Again all the Muslims who migrate to
    other countries and US are non-Muslims. Only the Muslims
    who intend to come back are Muslims not the ones who decide
    to stay in such countries.

    Hence we do not care if such Indian Muslims die in the
    riots. But due to strategy reasons we do have excellent
    relations with these Muslims. All the Muslims who work for
    Pakistan and for glory of Ummah are real Muslims. They are
    our front line troops in non-Muslim countries. Hence we
    have to distribute the arms and ammunitions to these real
    Muslims in case of riots come to their door.

    Whereas the Kashmiri Muslims are pure Muslims who are
    toiling under the yoke of Hindu rule. They are victimized
    by the international conspiracy to keep them under the
    Hindu rule. That issue is part of the incomplete partition.
    Whereas the Indian Muslims have accepted partition and
    stayed on in India knowingly.

    Q: Yet the popular uprising in Kashmir was missing in 1965
    as well as in 1948.

    A: That is true. That may be because of the clout of Sheik
    Abdullah of Kashmir during 1948 war. Actually the Muslim
    population in Jammu Kashmir was only marginally higher than
    Hindus. Muslims constituted 58% while the non-Muslims
    constituted the 42%. Hence the operation Topac aimed at
    eliminating the Kashmiri Pandits from the valley. We
    thought all of them will go to India. Instead many went to
    Jammu and only very little went to India. Hence we had to
    ask Harkatul to start terrorising the Hindus in Jammu. We
    also expected large scale war against Muslims in Jammu as
    well as in all the parts of India because of the killings.
    Indian govt suppressed these information. Another thing
    that was not done is the complete removal of Buddhists and
    Hindus from Jammu and Kashmir. We could do only in Valley
    and not in jammu and Ladakh. Hence the population of
    Muslims in Jammu and Kashmir is around 65% only according
    to Harkatul.

    Q: Tell us about your stay in Saudi Arabia.

    A: We embarked on a Umra as team of JI leaders. of course,
    Zia had arranged every convenience for us. We were
    accommodated in a Sheik's house. He is one of the richest
    Builders in Saudi Arabia. He owns few gold shops in Qatar
    too. Sheik was a personal friend of Zia Ul Haq. During the
    time of Zia, we were not politically active. Since Zia did
    whatever Qazi wanted, there was no need for political power
    either. Hence we had lot of time. That is the main reason
    why we stayed 3 full months in Sheik's palace. This sheik
    comes from a Bedouin family of southwestern Arabia. He had
    the habit of drinking camel urine and camel milk early in
    the morning. I asked him why does he do that? He replied
    that it is the family tradition as well as Islamic practice
    that is supported by Prophet Mohammad (PBUH). I was
    astounded. But Qazi explained to me that it is true. He
    told me three or four Hadiths in which the camel urine and
    camel milk drinking is suggested. So Qazi wanted to drink
    the camel urine and camel milk along with the Sheik. Since
    I could not bring up myself to drink the camel urine, I
    drank only fresh camel milk, which was thick and frothy.
    But Qazi drank the camel urine and camel milk the same
    amount and same time as the sheik. Qazi astounded me in
    this incident. I am amazed by the fact that Qazi was ready
    to go any length to mould his life in the teachings of the

    Q: Does he continue to do that even today?

    A: No. He bought a camel after coming to Pakistan. Three
    years later he had kidney stones problem. As per the
    doctor's advice he had to stop drinking the urine while he
    continued the drinking camel milk. Doctor advised him to
    stop drinking the milk as well since the camel milk is rich
    in calcium compared to the cow milk. I think he stopped
    drinking any milk or milk products. But he had said that
    once JI comes to power in Pakistan, he will popularize the
    camel milk and camel urine drinking in Pakistan. But I
    doubt he can do that. In my opinion, only camel milk can be

    Q: That is quite news to me. How was your stay in Arabia

    A: First I have to tell you that Saudi Arabia, as a country
    name, is wrong. It is Just Arabia. Only that Saudi dynasty
    rules over some parts of Arabia. You cannot put your name
    before a holyland as if you own that land. For Pakistan if
    Nawaz rules it, will it become Sheriff Pakistan and
    tomorrow Bhutto rules it and will it become Bhutto

    Anyway, one thing we noticed is that the Arabians own
    slaves. Though Allah says that the slaves should be treated
    in a nice manner, he did not advocate the abolition of
    slavery. If slavery is bad as considered in today's world,
    Allah certainly would have said that the slavery is wrong.
    Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) also said that the slaves should be
    treated in a good manner and the slaves should be released
    often. But if there is no slavery how can anyone release
    slaves? Hence the reintroduction of slavery in Pakistan is
    one of the future plans of Jamaat. All the captured Hindu
    Indians and Srilankans will be made slaves to work for
    Pakistani Muslims. Every God abiding Pakistani Muslim will
    get slaves once we conquer India. All the slaves who
    embrace Islam will be set free. Slavery is Islamic. Jamaat
    is the only political party, which does not voice any
    opposition to the slavery of Harees (defeated) in Pakistan.

    We went around all over Arabia. We were surprised to know
    that there are some Hindus in Yemen. These ancient Yemeni
    Hindus are not Indians. In my opinion, these Hindus are
    traders from India in the ancient times. I was also
    surprised to know that they have a Shiva temple in Yemen.
    Qazi was very unhappy over this. When he talked to Yemen
    leaders, he broached this subject. But the Yemeni leaders
    refused Qazi's suggestion of forced conversion of these
    people to Islam. I don't know why they refuse. I think it
    may be due to the large population of Hindus from India who
    work in Yemen and Arabia. He disliked the current
    leadership of Arabia for this reason. In his opinion,
    Arabia should not allow any non-Muslim into holy lands of
    Arabia. Arabia should be 100% pure. Large number of Hindus
    in Arabia is corrupting the Arabians. Though they live as
    contractors, they have the potential of corrupting the
    minds of the Arabians. One such thing is the presence of
    Arabians in Qatar Hindu temple. First the king allowed the
    Hindus to build a temple and church in the holy lands there
    by polluting the Holy Land. Second is that even a member of
    the Royal family visit that temple to inaugurate that
    temple. To the horror of Qazi he had learnt that one of the
    powerful member of Qatar royal family is a devotee of a god
    called Aayanppan. This news resolved Qazi to fight the
    force of the devil thousand fold.

    Q: Such things happen in Pakistan today. I mean a friend of
    mine goes to a Hindu temple. Another friend goes to church

    A: Yes. One of Qazi's relatives wanted to become a Hindu.
    He did not have a child for many years and it seems he had
    prayed to a Hindu God and got the child. Hence he felt
    thankful to that god and wanted to become a Hindu. Qazi got
    to know of this and called him and threatened him dire
    consequences. That relative did not become a Hindu. But
    that incident made Qazi read more about apostasy. Quran and
    Hadith clearly say the punishment for abandonment of Islam
    is death. Since Sharia is not the law in Pakistan, and the
    current Pakistani constitution grants right to change the
    religion, it is legally correct to declare oneself as Hindu
    or Christian. But once JI takes over the government, it
    will make Sharia as the constitution. Then Pakistan also
    legally execute any person who leaves Islam and joins
    Ahmaddiah, Christianity or Hinduism the same way Iran and
    Taliban treats its apostates. He also opined that the
    presence of the Hindu temples in Pakistan is the root cause
    of the problem and hence we want to destroy all the Hindu
    temples and Churches in Pakistan.

    Q: This brings us into another area. Right now Internet is
    becoming widespread. Even Saudi Arabia is connected with
    outside world. Destroying the temples may be good but how
    we can insulate the Pakistani and Muslim people against the
    corrupting knowledge totally?

    A: JI had taken a principled stand on the matter of science
    and religion. Religion is far superior to science. Whatever
    man needs to know is in Quran and Hadiths. Knowing more
    will create problems like the Atom bomb and Television.
    Quran and Hadiths are explicit in denouncing pictures. Yet
    the lure of Satan in the form of photography and television
    is eating our lives. Music previously was confined only to
    the vocal singing. Now science and technology made the
    music widespread at a cheaper price. These are the lures of
    Satan. We have to on guard against these ****** things.

    Hence more science and technology is bad for the
    civilization. I had completed civil engineering. Hence I am
    privy to scientific knowledge. I can tell you how
    corrupting that is. It even makes you question the glorious
    Quran. There are many Hadiths, which say that the earth is
    flat. But any science will tell you the earth is a sphere.
    But you can use the same science like relativity theory to
    prove that the earth is flat. It is the same case with
    evolution. But the point being that the doubt is sown in
    the minds of the people on the validity of Quran as the
    word of God. More and more we work hard in proving the
    Quran's scientific correctness, more and more people will
    get apprehensive of the truth of Quran. This is an
    abomination. This is why when we talk of education, we talk
    of religious education and not scientific education.

    It is true that science grew after Prophet's revolution in
    Arabia. That was start of science. Now each and every
    science is filled with anti-god stuff. If you want to
    become a doctor, you have to read evolution. If you have to
    read any engineering you have to believe in the billions of
    years old universe theory which effectively says that the
    human beings came to world only in just one or two million
    years back.

    Q: But we still need the arms and knowledge of western
    world, which believes in science. And again you had
    referred to television as evil. If we abolish photography
    how can we have passports or identification cards?

    A: Yes. That is strategic. With the help of Allah, we will
    be given oil for them to run their cars and we will have
    arms in that place. We will use their arms to destroy them
    in the course of time. As for as photos are concerned, they
    will be banned as it is done in Afghanistan. If there is no
    need for people to go out of Pakistan where is the need for
    the passports? For those who have to travel to other
    countries like the leaders of the revolution, they only
    will be given the passport with photos. For that, we will
    allow limited photography licensed only to govt. And the
    biggest corruption in today's Pakistan is Indian satellite
    TV and Indian cinemas and Indian songs. We have to abolish
    these too.

    Q: Currently we have lot of opposition from Mohajirs
    regarding reservations. What kind of reservation policy
    that JI will have in Pakistan?

    A: We approach that problem as the problem of language.
    Urdu speaking Muslims and Sindhi speaking Muslims are
    fighting now. We plan to abolish all the regional languages
    like Pashto, Sindhi, Baluchi, Urdu, Punjabi and Brahvi. We
    want all the people of Pakistan to speak Arabic which is
    our divine language. This will make everyone equal before
    everyone else and there would not be any need for language
    or region based reservations. We also hope that this will
    make the Quran and Hadiths easier to understand and will
    make the people follow Quran and Hadiths to the letter.

    Q: There could be language riots. One such language riot
    resulted in Bangladesh.

    A: Bangladesh was not a result of language riot. The very
    idea that they are Muslims will bring the Bangladeshis to
    Arabic. We already fund heavily on the Arabic language
    courses all over India, Bangladesh and Pakistan. From
    Morocco to Iraq speaks in Arabic, I don't see any reason
    why from Morocco to Burma we will not bring Arabic to the
    people. Even Bangladesh will start speaking in Arabic. That
    time there won't be any Bangladesh where the country name
    itself has the name of the language. Yes. Right now our aim
    is just for reunification without touching on the language
    issue of Bengali. JI of Bangladesh is working towards this

    Q: The secular journalists of Pakistan oppose JI. For
    example the Dawn and News are very critical of JI. How do
    you see their role in future?

    A: Ardheshir cowasjee is able to work only because of the
    present constitution of Pakistan. When Sharia becomes
    constitution, he cannot even approach the court, as he is a
    kafir. We see secular journalists as our main enemy in the
    current struggle to reach the power. These secular
    journalists are digging our statements we made during the
    pre-independence days and trying to beat us. Of course we
    opposed the creation of Pakistan during the British times.
    But that was a different Jamaat. Our history starts with
    independence. Secular journalists are not Muslims even
    though some of them are carrying Muslim names. Let them
    come to us and let us ask questions on Quran and Hadiths.
    We will prove each and every thing we say is from Quran and
    Hadiths. Let them prove what we say are wrong from the
    Quranic angle. Then we will accept them. But they cannot.
    They can not match us in any debate concerning the Quran
    and Hadiths. We can comprehensively prove that they are
    indeed non-Muslims. They are like Quadianis who say that
    the Muslim need not take upon Jihad as an obligation. That
    is pure nonsense.

    Q: What is your plan in Quetta?

    A: I have family in Panj-gur. I have my work in Quetta.
    Hence I travel all the time. Though I am a close friend of
    Qazi, and though he asked me to take up organizational
    work, I refused that since I am not really good in
    organizational work. There are very good people who are
    very good in organizational work in Quetta. I am being
    contented with the closeness of Qazi and being an ideologue
    of JI. Sometimes I speak in the Jamaat meetings. Otherwise
    my time is spent in reading and sending notes to Qazi.

    Q:Thanks for your time.
    A: May Allah's blessings be with

    very interesting...


      This Qazi fellow sounds far too liberal for my liking. What is becoming of the muslims in Pakistan?


        I like Qazi And he is NOT too liberal....he's very much balanced.


          yup yup... Qazi is too liberal and Hitler loved the Jews.


            I too liked the guy! Wish he'd succeed Nawaz, all of Pakistan's problems would dissapear. The only catch being that Pakistan itself might dissapear too!


            you really think he's balanced? Well, get your hijab and stuff ready and be ready to kiss the devil's messenger (read computer and the net) goodbye. And good luck with your pagan slaughtering. I'm always ready to be proselytized!

            JI Zindabaad!
            Simple ain't easy.


              Qazi will shut up when American missiles land on his house. Sadly, that is what it takes to tame dumb ---- fundos.


                so u mean America is Terrorist.......
                they can bomb anyone


                  queer I know Jamaat very well, and I can assure you, net and t.v are not going to be banned.


                    thats cool Hamsa! Now we can drink Camel "juice" while chatting on the internet...or flipping the channels between PTV and PTV...BTW..remote control allowed? what a vision!


                      Haha I don't know why you people over or under estimate people who speak of religion
                      How can net and t.v be banned without the peoples consent? Impossible!


                        Hamsa, aap bhi kitani masoom hain. Looks like you have not read the whole interview. You won't even have a "consent"(read vote).



                          How can they be banned? What's going on in Afghanistan? The Taliban are enforcing a ban on all kinds of conventional entertainment, which includes any kind of TV or music. People have been flogged in public for maintaining in possesion audio tapes and players. If the Taliban can do it, so can the Jammat.

                          And regarding under or over estimating people who speak religion, this Qazi guy makes Islam sound like a religion of barbarians, i suggest you read his interview fully.
                          Simple ain't easy.



                            First of all Qazi a ulla ka patha who is not doing anything for islam but to get his seat in the parliment everything he says is to get his seat thats it, he is using the name of islam to make people stupid and well make the more stupid.
                            Queer bhia TV and muziq are not part of religion of Islam i know it seems impossible for you to live with those things but tv is not part of religion. One more thing puh--leeeeeeeezzzzz there is no suck thing as "pakistani fundamentalist" if there were pakistani fundamentalist something would have happened to india by now.
                            What is the definition of fundamentalist to you? Is the person who does not like you or a person who tries to hold his religion strongly and represent it even if you dont like it?


                            Till next time***K_I_S_S***


                              Jaawan wrote:

                              >Queer bhia TV and muziq are not part of religion of Islam<

                              When did i say it was? Probably, you should say that to the Taliban and their uncle, the JI.

                              >One more thing puh--leeeeeeeezzzzz there is no suck thing as "pakistani fundamentalist"<

                              I wonder why you are telling all this nonsense to me. My posts in this thread do not carry the phrase "paki fundo".

                              >if there were pakistani fundamentalist something would have happened to india by now.<

                              *classified as BS*

                              >Is the person who does not like you or a person who tries to hold his religion strongly and represent it even if you dont like it?<

                              No, a person who sells his soul to the devil but keeps the deal hidden by the shroud of religion.

                              And one piece of advice, read thru my posts before you start showering me with your BS on what you think my post was.
                              Simple ain't easy.