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    Reason #2451 not to trust the US Army

    April 2004:

    Lt Colonel Matthew Beevers, speaking on behalf of the US Army, lied to the media

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4815441/

    U.S. military spokesman Lt. Col. Matthew Beevers said Saturday that Tillman was killed Thursday night in a firefight at about 7 p.m. on a road near Sperah, about 25 miles southwest of a U.S. base at Khost.
    After coming under fire, Tillman’s patrol got out of their vehicles and gave chase, moving toward the spot of the ambush. Beevers said the fighting was “sustained” and lasted 15-20 minutes.

    Beevers said Tillman was killed by enemy fire, but he had no information about what type of weapons were involved in the assault, or whether he died instantly.


    May 2005:

    The US Army's lies exposed - the Truth is just another victim of collateral damage in the so-called War on Terror

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7946575/

    The family of former professional football Pat Tillman says the Army disrespected his memory by lying in its investigation of his death in Afghanistan last year.

    In interviews with The Washington Post, the Army Ranger's mother and father said they believe the military and the government created a heroic tale about how their son died to foster a patriotic response across the country.
    "Pat had high ideals about the country; that's why he did what he did," Mary Tillman told the Post. "The military let him down. The administration let him down. It was a sign of disrespect. The fact that he was the ultimate team player and he watched his own men kill him is absolutely heartbreaking and tragic. The fact that they lied about it afterward is disgusting."

    Tillman, a player for the Arizona Cardinals, left the National Football League after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks to join the Rangers with his brother. After a tour in Iraq, they were sent to Afghanistan in 2004 to help hunt for the Taliban and Osama bin Laden.

    Shortly after arriving in the mountains to fight, Tillman was killed in a barrage of gunfire from his own men, mistaken for the enemy as he got into position to defend them.

    After a public memorial service, at which Tillman received the Silver Star, the Army told Tillman's family what had really happened.

    The separate interviews with Tillman's parents, who are divorced, appeared on the Post's Internet site for Monday's editions.

    Patrick Tillman Sr., a lawyer, told the Post he is furious about a "botched homicide investigation" and blames high-ranking Army officers for presenting "outright lies" to the family and to the public.

    "After it happened, all the people in positions of authority went out of their way to script this," the father said. "They purposely interfered with the investigation, they covered it up. I think they thought they could control it, and they realized that their recruiting efforts were going to go to hell in a handbasket if the truth about his death got out. They blew up their poster boy."
    Muslims are so good at dividing that they can divide the atom. If you see two Muslims, probably they belong to 3 parties.
    Al-Ghazali

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    Re: Reason #2451 not to trust the US Army

    What I want to know is that since he did nothing to deserve a Silver Star except get in the way of his colleagues bullets, will the army posthumously strip him of the decoration that he did not deserve?

    After all, the Silver Star is awarded for the following:

    http://www.americal.org/awards/achv-svc.htm#SilverStar

    The Silver Star is awarded to a person who, while serving in any capacity with the U.S. Army, is cited for gallantry in action against an enemy of the United States while engaged in military operations involving conflict with an opposing foreign force, or while serving with friendly foreign forces engaged in armed conflict against an opposing armed force in which the United States is not a belligerent party. The required gallantry, while of a lesser degree than that required for the Distinguished Service Cross, must nevertheless have been performed with marked distinction.
    Muslims are so good at dividing that they can divide the atom. If you see two Muslims, probably they belong to 3 parties.
    Al-Ghazali

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      #3
      Re: Reason #2451 not to trust the US Army

      Shortly after arriving in the mountains to fight, Tillman was killed in a barrage of gunfire from his own men, mistaken for the enemy as he got into position to defend them.
      Friendly fire...friendly killing I guess?

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        Re: Reason #2451 not to trust the US Army

        hey [lovies], you get the silver star for bravery in combat. They were under enemy fire when he risked his own life by moving to a postion to defend his fellow soldiers. It was at that point he was mistaken for the enemy and shot by his own men. It was a horrible accident covered up by an equally horrendous lie but this guy definitely deserved the silver star

        It was also definitely an injustice to his memory.
        Last edited by Ma Mooli; May 25, 2005, 02:57 PM.

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          #5
          Re: Reason #2451 not to trust the US Army

          Silver star shmar, got a plastic body bag in the end

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            Pentagon faked heroic death for icon shot by fellow Rangers
            By Alec Russell in Washington

            (Filed: 24/05/2005)

            The parents of a former American football star killed by friendly fire in Afghanistan yesterday accused the Pentagon of propagating a false account of his death to stir up patriotic fervour back home.

            http://telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jht...4/ixworld.html

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              #7
              Re: Reason #2451 not to trust the US Army

              oops

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                #8
                Re: Reason #2451 not to trust the US Army

                i dont think they faked it to boost patriotic fervour, rather they did it to divert attention from abu gharib scandal which broke out on close to his death.

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                  #9
                  Re: Reason #2451 not to trust the US Army

                  Originally posted by gupguppy
                  Pentagon faked heroic death for icon shot by fellow Rangers
                  By Alec Russell in Washington

                  (Filed: 24/05/2005)

                  The parents of a former American football star killed by friendly fire in Afghanistan yesterday accused the Pentagon of propagating a false account of his death to stir up patriotic fervour back home.

                  http://telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jht...4/ixworld.html
                  False accounts, Lies, Fraud common features of the US administration and its disgraced military!

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                    #10
                    Re: Reason #2451 not to trust the US Army

                    Originally posted by Stu
                    hey [Edited], you get the silver star for bravery in combat. They were under enemy fire when he risked his own life by moving to a postion to defend his fellow soldiers. It was at that point he was mistaken for the enemy and shot by his own men. It was a horrible accident covered up by an equally horrendous lie but this guy definitely deserved the silver star

                    It was also definitely an injustice to his memory.
                    Will the soldiers who killed him get the silver star as well?
                    Last edited by Ma Mooli; May 25, 2005, 02:57 PM.

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                      #11
                      Re: Reason #2451 not to trust the US Army

                      ^
                      they should afterall they killed a traitor who came in their way while they were practicing civilian-killings

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                        #12
                        Re: Reason #2451 not to trust the US Army

                        ^

                        Well I don't know. Ususally killers get medals from the American military.

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