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    @ImranKhans Staff trying to back paddle the interview by releasing unedited interview to no avail. IMO this man is a duffer and cant think for himself and is influenced by Bushra, btw whose sons are rolling in cash getting Govt contracts. He is getting chastised like none before and rightfully so.

    Here are some tweets in response to his interview of victim blaming.
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    #2
    Here is the article.
    Women shouldn't have to relive their trauma because men don't realise rape has nothing to do with clothing.

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      #3
      Most of those criticizing IK can’t even paraphrase what he said. Let me try to explain to those who are open to listen and understand. Most people ask as to why women who are dressed modestly in Pakistan and are in a vulnerable situation, still get assaulted. It is due to lots of pent-up sexual frustration in the attackers who exploit her vulnerable situation. Now from where does so much pent-up sexual frustration come from? That frustration comes from the TV, magazines, billboards, internet, and watching well protected immodestly-dressed women on the streets in Pakistan. An attacker cannot attack any of them as they are not in a vulnerable situation, but the frustration level keeps going up.

      For example, consider a child who gets to see lots of cool toys possessed by his various friends or in the mall. It's possible he thanks Allah and understands that his parents cannot afford those toys or whatever. But if the boy is not so smart, he will develop frustration. And the moment he sees an unprotected toy he could steal or destroy, he would. Therefore, it's important for parents to know the nature of their children and avoid doing things that will increase such pent-up frustration. They may tell other parents to hide all toys when they visit, they may not visit such shops, etc. It will be foolish of them to let such a child see all those cool toys all the while knowing that he will not get them. Prevention is better than cure.

      We should learn from the experience of India. Their society used to be quite like that of Pakistan. But then they virtually stopped censoring their TV, movies and billboards. Resourceful and well protected women selfishly started dressing immodestly on the streets in India. Since those women were always well protected, they didn’t face any consequences. But the less resourceful ones regardless of their clothes paid the price dearly. Until 2019, the number of rapes in Delhi area alone were higher than the number of rapes in all of Pakistan. Thousands of foreign women visiting India have reported being assaulted. The Internet is filled with complaints of Indian men doing creepy things to women online from almost all countries. Only now many towns in India have started banning revealing clothes but it's too little too late.

      Moral of the story is that resourceful and well protected women will always get away no matter what they wear. In order to protect the rest of the women in Pakistan, it is imperative to discourage immodest clothing on TV, movies, billboards and on the street by all. It is like Covid19 SOPs. Selfish people with strong immunity ignore SOPs, and those with average or below average immunity pay the price despite following SOPs.

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        #4
        According to IK temptation" leads to sexual crimes and there are A LOT of factors that trigger this "temptation" and ONE of the factors in some cases might be short cloths IN THE CONTEXT OF SUBCONTINENT. I don't know what's wrong with this statement.

        Similarly there are monsters who would harass women no matter what they are wearing. But this argument that short cloths can never be a reason of sexual crimes is factually incorrect and flawed.

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          #5
          Firstly we should not be proud of the lower number of rapes reported, we as a society should be ashamed as bigots like IK and the whole patriarchal society blames the victims and women become a helpless target of opportunity. If women were protected, could safely report and not be stigamatised than things would be different. At NED uni hostels. almost daily basis quota system gangsters would abduct and gang rape poor shareef girls. They would not touch the strong modern women. Just to shed light on under reporting the motorway rapists were gang raping women for years and not a single came forward. The male student raped at Islamic Uni refused to file charges. I read about this girl who was harrased by influential police officer and when she fought back he killed her brother.

          Again only people from a misogynist society would compare women to toys. The guy on twitter who compared girls to cars had his behind handed to him. Yes in many societies women were possesions but times have changed. Click image for larger version

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            #6
            Okay so let us look at the fact that very, very conservative Muslims, Pakistanis, Afghans find their way in to the west and somehow they dont rape despite seeing women in very short clothes, sunbathing, swimming, running, going to gym. Because buddy knows he will be caught, put in jail and maybe raped by fellow convicts. Goes to prove its not clothes, it is that society there blames victim and does not provide punishment for rapists.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Pakistani Prince View Post
              According to IK temptation" leads to sexual crimes and there are A LOT of factors that trigger this "temptation" and ONE of the factors in some cases might be short cloths IN THE CONTEXT OF SUBCONTINENT. I don't know what's wrong with this statement.

              Similarly there are monsters who would harass women no matter what they are wearing. But this argument that short cloths can never be a reason of sexual crimes is factually incorrect and flawed.
              What really scares me is that the sexual frustration in Pakistan will become so high that we will become like India if the problem is not addressed. All these TikTokers, etc. are becoming so popular with very young boys and they are seeing that for hours. Some of the most violent sexual assaults in India were carried out by boys who were under 18. I've heard games like PubG is another factor that is building up sexual frustration in Pakistan. There are some Pakistani chats from those games on the internet and they are quite telling about mindset of boys as young as 12 years old. Like you said, there are many factors and all of these come together to form the perfect storm.

              I've had friends of all sorts. From class toppers to those who went to jail for juveniles. I found very high sexual frustration in some of them regardless of their social status or academic achievement. Don't know if that is due to bad parenting or bad company. Nevertheless the number of such people has only increased now.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Bobby1 View Post
                Okay so let us look at the fact that very, very conservative Muslims, Pakistanis, Afghans find their way in to the west and somehow they dont rape despite seeing women in very short clothes, sunbathing, swimming, running, going to gym. Because buddy knows he will be caught, put in jail and maybe raped by fellow convicts. Goes to prove its not clothes, it is that society there blames victim and does not provide punishment for rapists.
                The sexually frustrated ones go to prostitutes or hook up to release their pent up sexual frustration. But again those "solutions" have far reaching consequences for a society.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by decentGuy View Post

                  The sexually frustrated ones go to prostitutes or hook up to release their pent up sexual frustration. But again those "solutions" have far reaching consequences for a society.
                  Now you have no argument left, these Islamist types in Pak as per Imran and people like you say can’t control their urges if women wear pants blouse and yet here the same don’t rape and go to prostitution hmmm. Never heard that. There is enough prostitution there so why get all raped. Is it because of misogynists and rape justifiers they can get away with it.

                  Did you ever have raped urges when you see ladies in floss bikinis??

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                    #10
                    Forget floss bikinis, are not you the one who always check out your son's girlfriends even if they are fully covered? Once you shamelessly asked your other son to rate your elder son's gfs lol. You belong to that category of men who sympathise with women just to win their trust and then you go on to do your thing with them lol.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Pakistani Prince View Post
                      Forget floss bikinis, are not you the one who always check out your son's girlfriends even if they are fully covered? Once you shamelessly asked your other son to rate your elder son's gfs lol. You belong to that category of men who sympathise with women just to win their trust and then you go on to do your thing with them lol.
                      People here generally marry people who are like them, my boys are one in millions and it would be my desire that they marry girls who are similar to them. It would be me desire to guide them but they are adults.

                      I am completely satisfied with my relationship and would not want to be anyone else. Thank Allah I never pursued anyone, I was pursued. Same with my boys, Harris is also in relationship. The girl pursued him very strongly.

                      Sam I think deserves a lot better but she pursued this relationship with insanity, put a
                      sharp knife on her stomach and told me that she will kill herself, so I did online Nikah.


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                        #12
                        Also when right wing leaders here say that immigrants from some countries have rape urges, we all jump on them and now the PM and many people from there are comparing women to toys, cars objects and saying that if they get rapey than women are to blame. Will IK send this memo to western governments

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by decentGuy View Post
                          For example, consider a child who gets to see lots of cool toys possessed by his various friends or in the mall. It's possible he thanks Allah and understands that his parents cannot afford those toys or whatever. But if the boy is not so smart, he will develop frustration. And the moment he sees an unprotected toy he could steal or destroy, he would. Therefore, it's important for parents to know the nature of their children and avoid doing things that will increase such pent-up frustration. They may tell other parents to hide all toys when they visit, they may not visit such shops, etc. It will be foolish of them to let such a child see all those cool toys all the while knowing that he will not get them. Prevention is better than cure.
                          Hate to continue with this analogy but there is an obvious point to be made here. Shouldn't the goal be to increase the access to toys for the poor and frustrated child? Shouldn't the goal be to eliminate the frustration? Shouldn't the goal be to have all children play with toys and eliminate the need to hide or lock up the toys.

                          To make a more serious point, the extreme frustration is caused by extreme segregation. Women participating normally in public spaces dressed normally without excessive coverings helps break down the segregation and reduce frustration.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by krash View Post

                            Hate to continue with this analogy but there is an obvious point to be made here. Shouldn't the goal be to increase the access to toys for the poor and frustrated child? Shouldn't the goal be to eliminate the frustration? Shouldn't the goal be to have all children play with toys and eliminate the need to hide or lock up the toys.

                            To make a more serious point, the extreme frustration is caused by extreme segregation. Women participating normally in public spaces dressed normally without excessive coverings helps break down the segregation and reduce frustration.
                            I think cultural misogyny plays a big role, Most of the sexual assaulters at new year eve were from Morroco and Morocco is a fairly open society.
                            I am talking of mass sexual attacks in Germany.

                            I don’t see any SE Asian men get in trouble here and that is because they know there will be consequences, there they can get away with rape and poor IK will blame the girls

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by krash View Post

                              Hate to continue with this analogy but there is an obvious point to be made here. Shouldn't the goal be to increase the access to toys for the poor and frustrated child? Shouldn't the goal be to eliminate the frustration? Shouldn't the goal be to have all children play with toys and eliminate the need to hide or lock up the toys.
                              Do you know of a town anywhere on Earth where any child can have any cool toy he has laid his eyes upon?

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