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    Why politics?

    Maybe this belongs in the General Forum, i am not certain. i didn't put it in the General Forum b/c although some political guppies visit that place, not all do.

    i want an answer from the Guppies who frequent this Forum. What makes you guys (unfortunately, it is mostly males) so interested in politics from a personal perspective? What do you, personally, gain from it? We have individuals here who take these issues very seriously (myself included), and individuals who are recognized as 'specialists' in certain fields...be it nuclear weapons, or the domestic politics of one country, or how the Security Council operates, or the rules of the WTO... i mean, it's an obsession almost for many of us. But what do you personally feel that you gain from discussing politics in this particular Forum? Are any of you as talkative about politics in real life, as you are on gupshup ? Do you discuss these issues frequently with your family members?

    Why am i asking. i am curious to know why so many of us spend so much time in this political forum and what we feel we personally gain from doing so. Feel free to make fun of me for posting up this thread :~P

    #2


    I am afraid no one will answer you coz they are all busy arguing

    Me come by this forum once in a while and hardly input anything (coz my point of view is out there already by someone else) I use to be like others guppy here argue and argue I used to argue with a Russain-American all the time especially about palestinian-israeli issue.

    I think one MUST speak up because sitting here doesnt' help the situation but trying to understand what's going on and helping others to get to see the other side of the story etc is meaningful you get to learn.

    but I have a addiction to news.....like early in the morning I get up and listen to 4-5 different news channel to get the different version of news 12.30 midday watch news again. 7.30 night I watch news again.

    I can miss other programs but I simply JUST CAN'T miss the news.

    Weird heh?

    But to me, the happenings around the world is just to real to ignore. And me and my siblings talk about politcis too.

    Err seems not relevant to your topic but a reply better than nothing

    Nadia I think only kurris will reply
    Tum Karbala kay baad bhee Syed-Sajjad a.s. ho
    Koi or hota tou khatha Khuda koi nahin hai

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      #3
      Little Human,

      yaar thank you so much for replying. You are right, it's probably only the girls who will reply. No it's not too weird to be constantly focused on the news.... i am the same way as well. i have to watch the evening news, i always miss the morning one cuz i'm always running late for uni. So never get to watch that. But i usually catch up during the day via the net... BBC, Dawn, Guardian are a must to visit.

      But to me, the happenings around the world is just to real to ignore.
      i agree.

      Do you believe that, by participating in this Forum, it has increased your knowledge of global politics, have you learned something significantly new, or do you find that you are arguing the same arguments repeatedly with usually the same individuals?

      By the way, thank you sooooooooooooooo much for replying to my thread. i can't tell you how much i appreciate this - qasam sai.

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        #4
        Originally posted by digitalsurgeon:
        i come to this WA area quite regularly and read almost all the posts but never reply, i think that's waste of time, but in real life if there's an argument i do actively participate in that.
        Just out of curiosity, why do you think that?

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          #5
          Its human nature to grab at any chance to get a leg up on your opponent. Most of the politics discussed here does not even remotely affect any of the debators...but looking at the stuff tossed around, you would believe they were actually experiencing it all.

          The current socio-political situation has eliminated most of the grey areas that the world was accustomed to in the past decades. Now things are much more vividly black and white, and hence its all the more simpler/easier to 'take sides'. When the political situation of the world was more blurred, you would only see qualified/seasoned people talking about it. Now, the sharp lines that have been drawn out in world politics, thanks to events that have occured in the past 3 years, have enabled amateurs to form opinions as well. Im one of those amateurs, which is "why politics"

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            #6
            I can say

            absolutely yes, my brother and I discuss politics the most, particularly concerning the muslm ummah and particularly pakistan. because we have feelings for the ummah and in particular we feel that we still have a direct link with pakistan and should be able to do something (even though we haven't visited in four years0

            Unfortunately apart from my father and few other members of the family, talking about politics is like trying to steer a river away from its natural course

            When I was in pakistan, politics is all i can remember discussing with my friends, and now friends are not that many neither is the discussion the only thing that we talk about..

            i guess its cos only on a forum can someone take arguments and feel unaffected by it and reject it, no matter how strong the argument, because its behind a computer screen. whereas in real life people will not be able to discuss against islamic politics except by islamic politics and in current situation where no authority of muslims exists, most fear for their little square of land and their own little house or hut rather then to try solve the problems faced by the ummah and the world at large by engaging in politics, they tend to shun it, or conform to methods laid down by prevailing authority.

            and hence solving the ummah's problem has been reduced to charity and dua,, as if the problems of the ummah is that ummah is not blessed with rich raw resources or as if Allah has become partially deaf (audhobillah) and beyond this, people deliberately themselves thinking too deep should their thinking provoke them to comit to an action that requires greater effort and sacrifice then merely dua and charity.

            now this forum... and discussing issues in this gupistan forum i personally found.. very limiting (2nd paragraph from this line), and like this is the 2 time in half a year i have visited this forum, however, i have used internet to engage in opinion gathering etc....

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              #7
              Hi,

              And old cliche.....

              Never talk religion or politics at a social gathering...

              I talk politics with my mom usually as majority of people I socialize with just don't seem interested, though I do sometimes blather on...and then I suppose am concidered the bore at the party..

              To answer your Q about learning anything, I'll have to say YES I have or at least like to think so....

              Talking politics, world events on a forum probobly won't change the world alot...but does gives an inkling of understanding the feelings and opinions of people of various countries, cultures and beliefs. And that I think is a positive. Perhaps in the future this gathering of opinions and information will have a larger impact. I know it has on myself.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Nadia_H:
                Little Human,

                yaar thank you so much for replying. You are right, it's probably only the girls who will reply. No it's not too weird to be constantly focused on the news.... i am the same way as well. i have to watch the evening news, i always miss the morning one cuz i'm always running late for uni. So never get to watch that. But i usually catch up during the day via the net... BBC, Dawn, Guardian are a must to visit.


                i agree.

                Do you believe that, by participating in this Forum, it has increased your knowledge of global politics, have you learned something significantly new, or do you find that you are arguing the same arguments repeatedly with usually the same individuals?

                By the way, thank you sooooooooooooooo much for replying to my thread. i can't tell you how much i appreciate this - qasam sai.
                I wont' say I learn something significantly new, but I guess it's usually same arguements around here.

                Suicide bombs go off in Israel. the same thing goes around "palestinian terror", "israelis asked for it" etc etc

                But World forum won't be World forum without ideas clashing. I don't think the participants would find it a waste of time to be here.
                Tum Karbala kay baad bhee Syed-Sajjad a.s. ho
                Koi or hota tou khatha Khuda koi nahin hai

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                  #9
                  Nadia,

                  Not so much a discussion of why politics, as why not.


                  The world is an interesting and dynamic place. The internet gives us a rather unique vehicle for discussing and indeed arguing political ideas. I think we have very little to fear or worry about from those who passionately discuss their views. It is those who are beyond discussion that we should all worry about.

                  The arguements here that at some times exceed spirited are actually extraordinarily healthy. It is grassroots engagement. Engagement, even when passions and emotions run high is generally a healthy, but messy process. I could argue with my friends and neighbors, but there is much less diversity of opinion, and I would find myself agreeing with them far more than disagreeing.

                  A few weeks ago my daughter was lucky enough to go with a group of 20 kids to Washington DC. She and her group met with all of our Congressmen and Senators. She toured the Pentagon, and the Supreme Court building. The kids were dropped off in a commmunity, and told to come back with evidence of "protest", and to present the basis for that protest to the group. They heard a debate between a conservative and a lberal, and they had roommates from all over the US, coming to participate in this program. Essentially she and her classmates were beginning to understand the essence of political and moral debates.

                  Debating politics makes us all seem engaged and allows us to participate in our lives and in the world. With very few exceptions, the debates around here are not personal, but a matter of principal to the participants. At the end of the day we may have swayed no one to a different point of view, but each of us goes away understanding the perspective of another a little better....
                  Boycott Venezuelas State owned Citgo.

                  Buy Royal Dutch Shell gasoline!

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