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    Expert says IAF will overwhelm PAF in 10 days

    Here's an independent analysis by Alan Warnes of AirForces Monthly from the July 2002 issue of AFM. AFM, is the only magazine whose editors have flown with both IAF and PAF. They interviewed PAF chief this month.

    Here is the link




    AirForces Monthly Assessment

    In spite of better training and discipline it is unlikely that Pakistan Air Force could withstand a war with Indian Air Force for more than ten dayshttp://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/biggthumb.gif : its logistics shortages and underfunded supply system would seriously hamper its operations. The IAF's fleet of some 722 combat aircraft would overwhelm Pakistan's air defences. Despite IAF's current poor serviceability rate and shortage of spares, it still has the capability to employ a full range of offensive and defensive weapons against targets all over Pakistan. Pakistan is aware of this and for this reason believes the nuclear bomb is a deterrent. Defeat by India is not an option.

    From the main article,

    The Indian Air Force is professional, highly motivated force employing mainly western tactics and doctrine, its combat effectiveness enhanced by Combined Air Operations (COMAO). The IAF is believed to have 240 air defence aircraft and 400 ground attack aircraft facing West across the Line of Control and the border with Paksitan. Most of the air defence fighters, drawn mainly from the MiG-21/29 fleet would escort fighter-bombers such as the Su-30Ks, Mirage 200Hs, Jaguars and Mig 27s (which are Precision Guided Munition capable) to their targets. The Jaguars, Mirage 2000s and Mig 27s are capable of delivering Nuclear Bombs. The IAF's quantitative edge, as well as its Beyond Visual Range (BVR) capabilites, would probably allow it to overwhelm the Pakistan Air Force within ten days. http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/ok.gif


    IAF's Combat Inventories

    Canberra 8
    Jaguar Maritime 7
    Jaguar Strike 78
    Mirage 2000H 45
    Mig-21bis 180
    Mig-21FL 70
    Mig-21N 60
    Mig-23BN 62
    Mig-25R 4
    Mig-27ML 130
    Mig-29 60
    Su-30K 18
    -------------------
    Total 722
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    PAF's Combat Inventories
    F-16A/B 35
    MirageIII/5 150
    F-7PG 40
    F-7P 110
    A-5 40
    -------------------
    Total 375
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    [This message has been edited by Talwar (edited July 14, 2002).]

    #2
    TALWAR

    Ghosh, how come you so quickly forgotten crashing rates of IAF? http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/hehe.gif

    BTW, would you like to share some links, on which no one has to get registered!

    http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/hula.gifTAKE YOUR BEST SHOT AT MEhttp://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/hula.gif

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      #3
      >>Deleted<<

      [This message has been edited by Talwar (edited July 14, 2002).]

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        #4
        PAGE CAN NOT BE FOUND

        http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/tongue.gif

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          #5
          He did this under assumption that Pakistan will not use tactical nucelar war heads on Indian airbases... on top of that the shaheen missiles were designed to hit enemy airfields...... this what experts said during 65.... PAF prooved them wrong... we will do so once again if war is thrust upon us... which I doubt since inherintly indian leadership is cowardish in nature

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            #6
            Talwar ji, no doubt that PAF is small in number, and holds some obsolete aircrafts, but Pakistan follows a different strategy. Pakistan uses old planes but after over hauling the aircrafts at the Kamra, we equip the same old planes with the latest radar technology, for example Grifo radar was designed in collaboration with the Italians, and is in the process of being commisioned into the PAF, and as far as I'm concerned it makes perfect sense to me, specially keeeping in mind our revenue situation. As far as the capabilty of PAF is concerned, I completely dis-agree with the author. Not because I'm from Pakistan, but because the facts speaks for itself. If you read the Indian defence report, it clearly states that if the war would have broken out, the superior PAF would have taken care of IAF( meaning that the IAF is not prepared ), in no time. I'm sure some of my fellow guppies will provide you with the link of the report, since I dont have it at the moment...
            Unity, Faith & Discipline....
            --Jinnah

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              #7
              PT,

              Just cut and paste the link on to your address area and press Go

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                #8
                k talwar thts wat paper say n experts beleive but u no wat we pakisatanis r in habit f proving the experts wrong n to keep the mouths f our critics shut one more thing an indian fighter pilot flies to land back safly but u no wat pakistani fighter pilots love shahdat more thn ur fighter pilots love life. PAF beleives in man behind the gun not the gun it self if u r so confident in dominating pakistani skies in 10 days y dont u attack pakistan the reason india is not able to attack is coz they know that they r goin to gt thorough beating in the sky on the ground and in water so worry not there wont b any place fr indians planes to hide do meet ur relatives in IAF if they coming to pakistan for an attack coz pakistani pilots are not goin to let them go backhttp://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif

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                  #9
                  First you guys say all experts believe Pak is superior (esp RealDeal)

                  Now you say experts are wrong.

                  Make up your mind

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Talwar:
                    First you guys say all experts believe Pak is superior (esp RealDeal)

                    Now you say experts are wrong.

                    Make up your mind
                    .. we have made up our mind - we gonna thrash Indians http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/hehe.gif eveyone knows Pakistani pilots are more skillful than Indians.. plus u be aware of our killer instinct..check cricket http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif
                    Saints are fine for Heaven, but they are hell on earth.

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                      #11
                      Talwar Correction: Most experts think the PAF will kick IAF's sorry rear end if the IAF pilots haven't done it already....one "expert" doesen't think so...happy? http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/tongue.gif

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Talwar:
                        PT,

                        Just cut and paste the link on to your address area and press Go
                        Good Job Talwar!

                        Expert says IAF will overwhelm PAF in 10 days

                        I know you're mature enought to answer this:

                        Why haven't India attack Pakistan since Dec.13? You guys were in a mood of final and decisive battle. Why did Vajoo needed a break? http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/confused.gif

                        http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/hula.gifTAKE YOUR BEST SHOT AT MEhttp://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/hula.gif

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                          #13
                          heh, talwar was trying so hard for the past two months to post this article...

                          talwar, let me rephrase that...

                          IAF crash rates suggest IAF will overwhelm itself in 10 days http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/wink.gif

                          You have pathetic pilots, your ground stuff is pathetic, hell even ur ejection system doesnt work properly, and your pilots dont know how to bail out properly...

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Degas:
                            .. we have made up our mind - we gonna thrash Indians http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/hehe.gif eveyone knows Pakistani pilots are more skillful than Indians.. plus u be aware of our killer instinct..check cricket http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif
                            Dear Indians.
                            Imagine a suicide bomber in a plane with a nuke! Think and tremble!

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                              #15
                              India not having attacked Pakistan seems to have disappointed a lot of people here! The common default answer to every other discussion point raised seems to be "then why haven't you attacked us". This consistent falling back, apart from missing the very obvious reasons, also serves only to wash away the limited credibility that exists on the part of the debators for Pakistan. Albeit, here is a referesher on the obvious:

                              India did not attack Pakistan because of several reasons combined:

                              1. the nukes. nothing to do with Pakistani valor - you simply don't mess with unstable material!

                              2. United States of America. They said and delivered necessary remedial action.

                              3. Musharraf. He is seen as one of (if not the only) last hopes to keep Pakistani people from the clutches of religious extremists. India attacking will make his position too hot to handle.

                              4. Vajpayee. He really does not want war.

                              5. Religious extremists, mullahs and Bin Laden: These are sufficient common enemies for India, US and Pakistan. So they don't need a war amongst themselves.

                              6. Rhetoric is sufficient to keep the hawks in place.

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