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    LONDON, May 23 (PNS): As the crisis over Kashmir deepens, British military experts say that while India's armed forces would enjoy a numerical superiority if a war broke out, Pakistan's army is of higher quality.

    Comments by Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee on Wednesday that "the time has come for a decisive fight" further fuelled fears of an all-out war with Pakistan over held Kashmir region.

    In any long-lasting conflict, India would have the advantage of a population of over one billion compared to Pakistan's of about 142 million. It would thus be able to mobilise more soldiers.

    But if a conflict was of short duration, these assets would not necessarily enter into the equation, according to William Hopkinson, of the London-based Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA). "The quality of some of the Pakistani troops is better on average than that of the Indians," he told AFP. "If the worst happens and a war starts, the pressures from all sides to stop it soon would be obviously enormous, so India's theoretical long-term advantage might not come into play."

    According to the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies, India has 1,303,000 people in its armed forces, plus 535,000 reservists. Pakistan, meanwhile, has about 612,000 troops and 513,000 reservists. India is believed to have about 60 nuclear warheads compared with Pakistan's 25, Britain's Times reported.
    Pakistan recently inducted fleet of Al Khalid Tank, indigenously made by Pakistan Ordinance Factory.

    According to British government sources quoted by the paper on Wednesday, the Pakistanis are considered better troops, and could beat off an initial Indian offensive. But the Indians could then use their superiority of in conventional forces to overwhelm the Pakistanis.

    In one doomsday scenario which, according to The Times, has been considered by British ministers, Islamabad could then use its weapon of last resort: a nuclear device. India would survive the strike and hit back with its own atomic weapons, according to the scenario.

    The use of nuclear weapons in a war for the first time since the Americans dropped such bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, is a threat that experts are not dismissing. "Yes, it is possible," said Hopkinson. "There could certainly be a risk if one side is going down in conventional struggle to use a nuclear weapon. "Whether their doctrine would be to use it tactically or to make a strike at the enemy's capital, I don't know. I would have thought that the likelihood would be a tactical use but again, it depends where the forces are... you don't want to use something (like that) on your own territory unless you can't avoid it."

    Hopkinson added: "If Pakistan is faced with defeat but the defeat were happening on its own territory or its part of Kashmir, it might well strike for something a bit further back ... it could be forces massed behind the first echelon."


    #2
    Fakeer I beg you pardon, please do share link of this news with Guppies. Thanks in advance http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif

    Long Live Pakistan http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/ok.gif

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      #3
      yes,please provide the link coz this is news for me!

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        #4
        Originally posted by gali ka goonda:
        yes,please provide the link coz this is news for me!
        http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...303716,00.html

        In response to a terrorist attack, Indian troops would retalitate against Pakistan. The Pakistanis, who are considered better troops, would beat off the initial offensive. But the Indians would then use their superiority in conventional forces to overwhelm the Pakistanis. In turn Islamabad would use its weapon of last resort: a nuclear device. India would survive the strike and hit back with its own atomic weapons...


        http://www.dailytelegraph.co.uk/news...equestid=17583

        One scenario is that the Indians will attack and will get a bloody nose from the better-trained Pakistani army. They will throw in a bigger force and the Pakistanis could use nuclear weapons."

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          #5
          India is limited in capability.. Unless all its troopos bum rush the Pakistani lines, their numerical superiority is nulified in a short term war...

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            #6
            Thanks Abdali http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif

            Long Live Pakistan http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/ok.gif

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              #7
              http://www.dawn.com/2002/05/23/top6.htm

              happy now http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif

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                #8
                Nice one Abdali! I saw this same report at Hindustantimes.com, then when I went back there to copy and paste it, it was gone!

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                  #9
                  Yes, I'm http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif

                  Long Live Pakistan http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/ok.gif

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                    #10
                    I think 'better' is a relative term. I think Pakistani Soldiers are more patriotic than say Indian Soldiers. If Pakistan was to be attacked, believe me, the average citizen who is armed to the teeth will cause a lot of heartache for the Indian forces.

                    Don't forget this isn't Lahore of 1965
                    Don't forget this isn't Karachi of 1971

                    I think we should be training civilians in basic armament usage and other basic training. In Azad Kashmir, a large portion of the Population was trained by the Pakistani Army to wage low intensity/guerilla type warfare, it should be expanded to the rest of the nation.

                    A quote from Ayub Khan comes to mind, he was referring to the '65 war but it still holds today:

                    "The hundred million Pakistanis whose hearts beat with the sound of 'None except Allah is worthy of obeisance' will not rest until the Indian guns are silenced for ever."

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by RajputFury:
                      I think 'better' is a relative term. I think Pakistani Soldiers are more patriotic than say Indian Soldiers. If Pakistan was to be attacked, believe me, the average citizen who is armed to the teeth will cause a lot of heartache for the Indian forces.

                      Don't forget this isn't Lahore of 1965
                      Don't forget this isn't Karachi of 1971

                      I think we should be training civilians in basic armament usage and other basic training. In Azad Kashmir, a large portion of the Population was trained by the Pakistani Army to wage low intensity/guerilla type warfare, it should be expanded to the rest of the nation.

                      A quote from Ayub Khan comes to mind, he was referring to the '65 war but it still holds today:

                      "The hundred million Pakistanis whose hearts beat with the sound of 'None except Allah is worthy of obeisance' will not rest until the Indian guns are silenced for ever."

                      Hats off to that General the fitting reply still echos today.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by RajputFury:
                        I think 'better' is a relative term. I think Pakistani Soldiers are more patriotic than say Indian Soldiers. If Pakistan was to be attacked, believe me, the average citizen who is armed to the teeth will cause a lot of heartache for the Indian forces.

                        Don't forget this isn't Lahore of 1965
                        Don't forget this isn't Karachi of 1971

                        I think we should be training civilians in basic armament usage and other basic training. In Azad Kashmir, a large portion of the Population was trained by the Pakistani Army to wage low intensity/guerilla type warfare, it should be expanded to the rest of the nation.

                        A quote from Ayub Khan comes to mind, he was referring to the '65 war but it still holds today:

                        "The hundred million Pakistanis whose hearts beat with the sound of 'None except Allah is worthy of obeisance' will not rest until the Indian guns are silenced for ever."

                        dont worry about pashtuns http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/biggrin.gif ..were already trained for these kinda situation except we dont have planes to compete the indian rats.they'll bring em down with ak's http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif

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                          #13
                          yea i gotta agree ayub khan was the best general and leader pak millitary and pak ppl ever saw.Allah bless him janna .

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                            #14
                            great Job fakeer!!!!!


                            thats what I was going to post, but you already did.
                            thanks

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by fakeer:
                              yea i gotta agree ayub khan was the best general and leader pak millitary and pak ppl ever saw.Allah bless him janna .
                              I agree, may Allah bless him janna. Ayub Khan did MANY good things for Pakistan, a true patriot, and an excellent soldier.

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                              The eyelids of a Rajputs eyes are lowered only in death.

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