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    Hundreds of Khakis get top civilian jobs

    By Ansar Abbasi

    ISLAMABAD: There is an extraordinary rush of Khakis on the country's civilian institutions as hundreds of serving and retired defence officers, including large number of brigadiers and generals, have been assigned key civil positions either on secondment or on contract.

    There are more than 76 generals or equivalent from Navy and Airforce alone, who are occupying important non-military positions. The list of retired and serving brigadiers, colonels and other ranks is too long and runs into hundreds.

    Sources believe that the total number of such appointees in the federal government alone is more than 500. There is no consolidated list of such appointees with the government which otherwise has also been reluctant to share this information with The News.

    The Establishment Division has been formally requested by this correspondent to provide this public information but it never did so. However, The News made up its own list of such high profile appointments, identifying 76 generals alone holding civilian jobs, from different references and from different ministries/divisions.

    A government source when contacted defended these large-scale appointments of serving and retired servicemen in the civilian set up. The source said that these appointments of "highly talented" individuals were made to clean the mess from the civilian institutions. Because of such measures, the government source claimed the masses were feeling a better change.

    General Pervez Musharraf, the Chief Executive and President of Pakistan who took over the reign of power on Oct 12, 1999 leads the team of such appointees. Other VVIPs include Maj Gen (r) Muhammad Anwar, President AJK; Lt Gen (r) Khalid Maqbool, Governor Punjab; Lt Gen (r) Iftikhar Hussain Shah, Governor NWFP; Lt Gen (r) Moinuddin Haider, Interior Minister; Lt Gen (r) Javed Ashraf, Minister for Communications; and Col (r) SK Tressler, Minister for Minorities, culture.

    The CE Secretariat is led by chief of staff to the CE who is Lt Gen Hamid Javed. The principal secretary to the CE and Musharraf's college days friend Tariq Aziz, the only key civilian officer in the CE Secretariat, even report to the COS.

    The Deputy COS is Maj Gen Mohammad Yousaf. The only additional secretary in the CE secretariat is also a Maj General -- Javed Zia). Another Major Gen, Rashid Qureshi, is acting as press secretary to the CE. Brigadier Nadeem Taj, military secretary to the CE, has also been approved for promotion as Maj General.

    The Brigadiers in the CE Secretariat include Asif Yasin Malik, director (A); and Tariq Hamid Khan, director (C). The CE Secretariat also contains a number of colonels, majors and others from defence forces.

    In the National Accountability Bureau, which is also part of the CE's Secretariat, the senior level military officers include NAB chairman Lt Gen Munir Hafeez; deputy chairman Maj Gen Syed Usman Shah; deputy chairman NAB Maj Gen Shujaat Zamir Dar; DG NAB Punjab Maj Gen Abdul Jabbar Bhatti; DG NAB NWFP Air Vice Marshal Zakaullah; DG NAB Sindh Maj Gen Tariq Bashir; Maj Gen Ijaz Ahmad Bakhshi, commander regional accountability bureau, Sindh; DG NAB Balochistan Maj Gen Owais Mushtaq Qureshi; DG NAB Rawalpindi Rear Admiral Obaid Sadiq; Brig (r) Saghir Hussain and a number of retired and serving colonels, majors etc.

    The National Reconstruction Bureau (NRB), another department of the CE Secretariat, is headed by Lt Gen (r) Syed Tanvir Hussain Naqvi. Two of the four members of the NRB including Dr Gulfraz Ahmad and Maj Gen (r) Asif Bukhari have also defence background.

    Retired brigadiers like Hafeezullah and M Saleem are besides several ex-colonels and majors who are reforming the country's civilian institutions. Secretaries of three federal divisions are retired defence officers.

    They include secretary defence Lt Gen (r) Hamid Nawaz Khan; secretary defence production Air Marshal (r) Zahid Anis; and secretary railways Lt Gen (r) Saeeduz Zafar.

    At least nine retired servicemen are currently serving as Pakistan's ambassador/high commissioner in different world capitals. These include Maj Gen (r) Fazle Ghafoor in North Korea; Brig (r) Abdul Majeed Khan in Tajikistan; Maj Gen (r) Saleemullah in United Arab Emirates; Maj Gen (r) Muhammad Hasan Aqueel in Thailand; Lt Gen (r) Muhammad Asad Durrani in Saudi Arabia; Vice Admiral (r) Shamoon Aalam Khan in Ukraine; Air Marshal (r) Najeeb Akhtar in Brazil; Maj Gen (r) Syed Mustafa Anwar Hussain in Indonesia; and Lt Gen (r) Muhammad Shafique in Behrain.

    Other important positions that are occupied by the serving or retired defence officers include chairman Wapda Lt Gen Zulfiqar Ali; DG Pakistan Post Office Department Maj Gen (r) Agha Masud Hasan; Chairman National Highway Authority Maj Gen Farukh Javed; DG Ports and Shipping Rear Admiral KB Rind; chairman Karachi Port Trust Rear Admiral Ahmad Hayat; chairman Port Qasim Authority Rear Admiral Sikandar Waqar Naqvi; chairman Pakistan National Shipping Corporation Vice Admiral Touqir Hussain Naqvi; chairman Gawadar Board Cell Rear Admiral Sarfraz Ahmad; head of National Fertilizer Corporation Maj Gen (r) Muhammad Mohsin; chairman Pakistan Steels Lt Col (r) Afzal Khan; chairman Export Processing Zone Authority Lt Col (r) Akbar Hussain; chairman Pakistan Telecommunication Authority Maj Gen Shahzada Alam Malik; chairman National Telecommunication Corporation Headquarter Air Vice Marshal Azhar Masud; chairman NADRA Brig (r) Muhammad Saleem; director projects NADRA Brig Khalid Javaid; DG operations NADRA Brig Mirza Babar Aziz Beg; chairman SUPARCO Maj General Raza Hussain; Surveyor General of Pakistan Maj General Sabihuddin Bokhari; DG National Crisis Management Cell Brigadier Javed Iqbal Cheema; Maj Gen Muhammad Javed, DG Military Lands and Cantonments; additional secretary I Defence Division Maj Gen Muhammad Ashraf Chaudhry; additional secretary II Defence Division Air Vice Marshal Rashid Kalim; additional secretary III defence Rear Admiral Irfan Ahmad; Maj Gen Rehmat Khan, additional secretary defence production; Brig Syed Shahid Ahmed, OSD-I defence production; Brig Balal Ahmed Khan, director Armament Research and Development Establishment; head of Defence Science and Technology Organisation Maj Gen (r) M Saleem Uddin; managing director Federal Employees Benevolent and Group Insurance Funds Maj Gen (r) Rahmatullah; chairman Federal Public Service Commission Air Marshal (r) Shafique Haider; member FPSC Lt Gen (r) Arshad Hussain; chairman Punjab Public Service Commission Lt Gen (r) Jehangir Nasrullah; member PPSC Major Gen (r) Arshad Chaudhry; member PPSC Maj Gen (r) Arshadullah Tarar; DG Health Rear Admiral Muhammad Aslam; director general Civil Aviation Authority Air Vice Marshal (r) Aliuddin; deputy DG CAA Air Vice Marshal Arshad Saleem; DG Anti Narcotics Force Maj General Zafar Abbas; DG National Logistic Cell Maj General Syed Haider Javed; till recently chairman Nefdec and currently DG Auqaf Maj General (r) Inayatullah Khan Niazi; MD Oil and Gas Development Corporation Maj General Pervez Akmal; general manager admn OGDC Brig (r) Rizwan Ashraf; managing director Pakistan Mineral Development Corporation Brig (r) Ishtiaq Ali Khan; general manager Railways Maj Gen (r) Hamid Hasan Butt; rector National University of SCiences and Technology Lt Gen (r) Syed Shujaat Hussain; vice chancellor Punjab University Lt Gen (r) Arshad Mehmood; VC Engineering University Lahore Lt Gen (r) Arshad Muhammad; VC University of Engineering Technology Peshawar Air Vice Marshal (r) Sardar Khan; VC Quaid-e-Azam University Capt (r) UAG Isani; director general National Institute of Public Administration Punjab Lt Gen (r) Sardar Ali; managing director KARACHI ELECTRICITY SUPPLY CORPORATION (KESC) Brigadier Tariq Mehmood Khan Sadozai; project director project directorate Margalla Electronics Brig (r) Humayun Shah; DG Federal Directorate of Education Brig (r) Maqsudul Hassan; DG Agricultural Barani Area Development Brig (r) Muhammad Shafqatullah Cheema; Brig (r) Muhammad Ilyas Khan, DG Emergency Relief Cell, cabinet division; Brig Muhammad Iqbal, JS (MW), cabinet; Brig Shahid Naeem Butt, secretary National Communication Security Board; Brig Qazi Muhammad Idris, additional director general Department of Communications Security; managing director Printing Corporation of Pakistan Lt Col (r) Sher Afgan Khan; Brig Abdul Khalique, director federal government education institutions directorate; rector National University of Modern Languages Islamabad Brig Dr Aziz Ahmad Khan; director general (PP) Foreign Office Brig (r) Saeed Ahmad Rafi; DG (ATDC) Foreign Office Brig (r) Muhammad Anwar; joint secretary Works Brigadier (r) Zamurad Khan Shahin; managing director PAKISTAN HOUSING AUTHORITY Brig (r) Syed Dilbar Hasnain; consultant land Pakistan Housing Authority Brig (r) Aftab Ahmad; DG Pakistan Public Works Department Brig M Khalid Sohail Cheema; managing director Utility Stores Corporation Brig (r) Hafeez Ahmad; president/senior fellow Institute of Regional Studies Brig (r) Bashir Ahmad; executive director Frequency Allocation Board Headquarters (FABH) Islamabad Brig Muhammad Mazhar Qayum Butt; DG FABH Brig (r) Abdul Hai; DG national training bureau Brig (r) Sarfraz Khan; Brig M Iftikhar Mansoor, advisor security, Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission.

    At least eight brigadiers are serving as area chiefs for Wapda in Rawalpindi-Islamabad, Peshawar, Gujranwala, Multan, Lahore, Hyderabad, Karachi, Quetta and Faisalabad etc

    Other military appointees on civilians seats include secretary home Punjab Brigadier Ijaz; secretary communication and works Punjab Brigadier Shadab; chairman Punjab Privatisation Commission Brigadier Anis; Col (r) Shahid Qureshi DIG Telecommunication Sindh; Col MA Wahid AIG training Karachi; Brigadier Mukhtar, Home Secretary Sindh; Brigadier Zaheer Qadri serves in works department Sindh; Nisar Mehr, IG Prison Karachi; Brig (r) Akhtar Zamin, secretary to governor Sindh; Brigadier (r) AS Nasir also serves in Sindh etc.

    Those serving and retired defence officers heading the sports bodies include chairman Pakistan Hockey Federation General Muhammad Aziz; chairman Pakistan Cricket Board Lt General Tauqir Zia; chairman Pakistan Squash Federation Air Marshal Mushaf Mir; chairman Pakistan Amateur Athletics Federation Maj Gen (r) Imtiaz; and DG Sports Board Brig Saulat Abbas.

    The above list include very few appointees of the provincial governments which have reportedly also inducted a very large number of serving and retired officials against civilian positions.


    #2
    I agree with the move whole-heartedly.

    Military personnel are polished individuals, who have been through countless training hours, and ensure a 100% literacy rate. Sure some favoritism may have been a factor here, but at least their professionalism is ensured from the fact that they have actually been a part of an organization that trained and groomed them in the best possible way, for leadership.

    Compare this to Nawaz Sharif or Benazir appointing their favorites, and you will find that their appointees are the likes of primary fail education ministers, who are usually related to the PM in some way shape or form, and have no training or experience of leadership whatsoever, other than ordering around their servants.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Akif:
      I agree with the move whole-heartedly.

      Military personnel are polished individuals, who have been through countless training hours, and ensure a 100% literacy rate. Sure some favoritism may have been a factor here, but at least their professionalism is ensured from the fact that they have actually been a part of an organization that trained and groomed them in the best possible way, for leadership.

      Compare this to Nawaz Sharif or Benazir appointing their favorites, and you will find that their appointees are the likes of primary fail education ministers, who are usually related to the PM in some way shape or form, and have no training or experience of leadership whatsoever, other than ordering around their servants.
      Akif http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/ok.gif . Provide the link of this NEWS, too

      *Play your game - Guess my motto*

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        #4
        Well,first of all what does, for example, an infantry officer know about, for example, running the income tax office?

        Sure many politicians appoint crap people, but they are crap mainly because they are corrupt.

        Unfortunately this is no different in the army. Only difference is that now the soldiers are making tons, instead of the politicians.

        And of course those who are posted as 'civil servants'while still in the army are ruining whatever claim the army can have to being 'professional' soldiers.

        And of course there are even less jobs for the people of Pak as the Army has taken all the govt jobs, at all levels.

        Sad, but true.

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          #5
          The purpose of Institution of army is not to aspire for civilian posts.. as afar as army is concerned they have taken part in humanitarian crimes compared to polititions.. from East pakistan to Interior Sindh to Ojri Camp .. from drug mafia of Fazal ul Haq to Navy Chiefs endeavors.. the beauty of polititics is that we know whats going on but they sacrad vultures do whatever they like..
          Saints are fine for Heaven, but they are hell on earth.

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            #6
            Show me one single on those men mentioned who has performed upto the mark,
            The ONLY state run corporation being run properly by an Army Officer is Pa,kistan Railways and and shipping corporation right now..considering the huge number of people appointed..thats a bad joke!

            another issue, is what are thed ucational qualifications of these people, after all Musharraf has a thing for education vis a vis his graduate restriction on politciians.
            How can a man die better than facing fearful odds for the ashes of his fathers and the Temple of his Gods?

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              #7
              All military officers are minimum graduates.

              An infantry officer may not know anything about taxation, but he would sure know about discipline and work ethics, and that is what Pakistani civil institutions need more of, rather than B.Com fail tax collectors.

              And for your info, all serving army officers, who are appointed in civil departments in any capacity, do not draw any extra renumeration. Their sole source of income remains their military salary and benefits. Only their work doubles...not their salaries. Classic example is the president himself, who, despite being the COAS as well as the president, still draws only the COAS's salary.

              Perhaps all haters would like to see a return of the oh-so-professional nawaz/bb era bloodsuckers, so they can once again be incharge of who, what, when, where and whys of Pakistani beaurucracy, and plunge it back to the same abyss that the current government has taken pains in getting Pakistan out of, in the past 2 years.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Akif:
                I agree with the move whole-heartedly.

                Military personnel are polished individuals, who have been through countless training hours, and ensure a 100% literacy rate. Sure some favoritism may have been a factor here, but at least their professionalism is ensured from the fact that they have actually been a part of an organization that trained and groomed them in the best possible way, for leadership.

                Compare this to Nawaz Sharif or Benazir appointing their favorites, and you will find that their appointees are the likes of primary fail education ministers, who are usually related to the PM in some way shape or form, and have no training or experience of leadership whatsoever, other than ordering around their servants.
                Yeah! Sure!

                I'll give you an example of Military intellect!

                I was on army attachment in Badin Cantt. and I was told to make a presentation to the Army officers on any topic of my choice and the audience would include all the officers, including the head of the Badin Cantt,in the Cantt. I though for a moment and then as I had recently made a presentation on " The role of the Ombudsman and the concept of Administrative Justice", so, I spontaneously told them that I'll make a presentation on it, and it was immediately refused that it was an old topic. They, in their magnanimity gave me till morning to tell them 2 topics of my choice and then out of it, if they agreed, I could make a presentation on either.
                The next morning I gave them the 2 topics as:
                1. The role of Ombudsman,
                2. The concept of Administrative Justice,


                and funnily enough, they said, Yeah you can choose any of the two! http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif

                The issue is, that the Faujis think that the entire Pakistan is corrupt, civilians are untrustworthy people and only they can make the right decision!

                When they are enroled in the army, the get all the facilities in their initial service period on huge discounted rates, then as they get senior, they are given plots of lands in one of the most expensive areas of any city, and they can sell these plots at the highest possible rates to any civilian. As they get senior, they are given huge acres of lands in Sindh with all the facilities to "force" corrupt govt. officers, to provide all the govt. machinery etc. to cultivate the land and to provide water facilities , farm to market roads etc... Then as they get senior and are on the verge of retirement, then they either take over the country and proclaim themselves as pariahs of the country and seek a manipulated mandate from the people,or they are posted as heads of public sector enterprises. When the finally retire, they are sent as Ambassadors or Heads of Missions to different countries of their choices or are made Governors of any of the Provinces. WHen the are finally incapable of doing anything, they enter the political arena to "serve the nation"!

                The point that I'd like to make is that these Fauji's think that each and every civilian is corrupt but at the later stages in their lives, the join the "corrupt civilians, the bureaucracy and the Politicians", and when they do it, it is to serve the country, and when anyone else does it,they are robbing the nation!
                It is precisely this disparity that has caused a large number of people to dislike the majority of the Fauji's. Even if we dont say it in public but we do so in Private.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Akif:


                  And for your info, all serving army officers, who are appointed in civil departments in any capacity, do not draw any extra renumeration. Their sole source of income remains their military salary and benefits. Only their work doubles...not their salaries. Classic example is the president himself, who, despite being the COAS as well as the president, still draws only the COAS's salary.

                  Perhaps all haters would like to see a return of the oh-so-professional nawaz/bb era bloodsuckers, so they can once again be incharge of who, what, when, where and whys of Pakistani beaurucracy, and plunge it back to the same abyss that the current government has taken pains in getting Pakistan out of, in the past 2 years.

                  Another example of Military intellect:

                  I asked one of a close confidante of the COAS for the time of departure of a flight, and remember that it was a gentleman who was a full Colonel and he told me 6'O'Clock, I asked him if it was 6 AM or PM, he said
                  " Arey chorain bhai, chay (6) bajay Subh" http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/hehe.gif

                  This year, the army has reduced the expenditures incurred on the annual Maintanence and Repairs of the Army house to ZERO!
                  The fact is that they have simply shifted the budget onto the Civilian side rather that Military Side! http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/hoonh.gif

                  All the faujis who have been moved to the frontiers of the country will get one month's salary as extra remuneration every month and that too will be paid from the Civilian side of the budget rather than the Military side. So infact, the military expenditures are stable again! http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif

                  And if the Military Officers depend on the salary only, then how come that a large number of them ( at their senior levels) possess expensive cars! The ones posted in AMT's, KESC etc.. are not that honest that we all assume them to be!

                  The classic example could also be of Amir Ul Momineen, Zia and his cohorts who depended solely on their incomes and thats why their sons have become industrial magnates in different sectors, but has anyone ever been charged in a court of Law for corruption?
                  No. Cause they solely depended on their "incomes". http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/hoonh.gif

                  P.S- I never knew that we had come out of the abyss!!!
                  Thanx for letting the people of Pakistan know that!! http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/kiss.gif

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Rbee:
                    I asked one of a close confidante of the COAS for the time of departure of a flight, and remember that it was a gentleman who was a full Colonel and he told me 6'O'Clock, I asked him if it was 6 AM or PM, he said
                    " Arey chorain bhai, chay (6) bajay Subh" http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/hehe.gif
                    hehe....wheres the joke in that?

                    I dont know in what capacity youre 'attached', but regardless, your personal grudges against the armed forces dont qualify as stable arguments about any incompetence that you allege, exists in the armed forces.

                    Civilians are corrupt, sure. Not all, but majority of them are corrupt to the bone....right from the chaprasi at the door, to the director sitting in the ritzy office. I dont need to outline proofs of that. And if you have failed to see the progress Pakistan has made under the current government in the past 2 years, then youve been sleeping.

                    And save those kisses for someone who'll return the favor.

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                      #11
                      I don't mind a civilian or Khaki being paid highly if they get the job done, my question remains unanswered, name one with a few notable exceptions. Khaki, who has done a good job in his post right now??
                      How can a man die better than facing fearful odds for the ashes of his fathers and the Temple of his Gods?

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                        #12
                        Akif, saying that all civilions r curropted and military persons r angels is like one is living in his own paradise. We know how much army officers have been curropted in past years and how they fix their commissions in different projects aloted to civilion contractors. If people are silent about that is only becouse of country's image....

                        You have said all military officers r graduates, yes they all r usually B.A. (except some technical cores). Tell me only one thing; can a B.A. person (infentory officer) be compared/replaced with experienced graduate engineer (say Chairman WAPDA)?

                        What ever ur answer be, but true answer is 'NEVER'.

                        Its just like if we replace 'Chief of Army staff' with 'Chairman Wapda'... does in that case military could defend country in war???

                        [This message has been edited by Hamdard (edited April 01, 2002).]

                        [This message has been edited by Hamdard (edited April 01, 2002).]

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                          #13
                          I said most of the civilians are corrupt. Perhaps not because they are corrupt to the core, but because of lack of ethics in the civilian hierarchy, which forces even the righteous ones into corruption.

                          We know how much army officers have been curropted in past years and how they fix their commissions in different projects aloted to civilion contractors.

                          We dont know. Perhaps you knowhttp://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif and please do enlighten. Dont forget to itemizehttp://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif

                          Tell me only one thing; can a B.A. person (infentory officer) be compared/replaced with experienced graduate engineer (say Chairman WAPDA)?

                          Lets take a look at the bigger picture. Not one department. When talking of army officers, all of them are graduates. With civilians, I clearly remember a matric fail tribal leader having been the Minister for Education in the not too distant past. And looking at the broader picture, at the very least, 50% of the politicians, ministers, and chairmen are either illiterate, or underqualified non-graduates.

                          [This message has been edited by Akif (edited April 01, 2002).]

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Akif:
                            [B] hehe....wheres the joke in that?

                            And if you have failed to see the progress Pakistan has made under the current government in the past 2 years, then youve been sleeping.

                            B]
                            Well "chay bajay subh"....., instead or realizing that I asked the same question???
                            I guess ur of the same mental acumen!

                            And what economically Pakistan has acheived, would u care to highlight that<< in case u dont understand economics, lemme tell you that for every loan that you take, you have to repay that with interest. SO besides that what have we or your Faujis, achieved!

                            And if you love the Faujis so much, just dare to critisize them publicly ( constructively, that is) like we do to the bureaucracy and the politicians and the civilians. Under the constitution of Pakistan, it's punishable by high treason!
                            Any comments on that monami?

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                              #15
                              Perhaps youre right about my 'mental acumen', coz i still fail to see the joke in the hilarious 'chay bajay subh' masterpiece.

                              If anyone claims that the press is not freer today than it was 3 years ago, is either blind, or some PML or PPP spoon, itching for these corrupt carcasses to get back into power, just to they get their a crack at mopping up some money. And whoever told you criticism of the faujis is high treason is beyond me. Next time, rather than casting me as one who tows the fauji line, just come out with the line that youre towing. So which is is? PML, PPP? MQM?

                              And regarding loans, I know the concept behind them, and understand the working of an economy quite well. The difference between today and yesterday is, that the loans that are coming in right now, are in fact, being used to build and reinforce Pakistans infrastructure, unlike before, when they were merely going into the pockets of your beloved democracks.

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