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    Homo Neandertalus...had it going on!

    Ever since first studying the evolution of man .....ooooh 10 years ago now I was struck in awe at Neanderthal man. This mysterious creature made very complex tools, was most probably more intelligent than Homo Sapiens emerging at the time and held basic religiuous beliefs.

    If brain cavity capacity is anything to go by...all guppies would be put to shame by Neanderthals. One widely proported theory as to why this gentle intelligent creature became extinct lies in this very fact....their heads were inordinatly large and caused trouble during childbirth, this coupled with the aggressive nature of the Homo Sapien saw to their ultimate demise around 30 000 years ago......I still belive a few exist in the form of bigfoot, saskwatch, etc http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif.

    Anyhoo, I digress.....here's the latest find in their tool making capacity....glue!

    Neanderthals 'used glue to make tools'
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci...00/1766683.stm

    #2
    Just one question, how does one "melt" wood over fire?

    I'd like to try that.

    BTW, interesting articles.

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      #3



      Moved to Career and Academics.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Thap:
        and held basic religiuous beliefs.
        Can you please explain more, Thap?

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          #5
          At work so a quickie http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif

          KN,

          Melting wood...I would assume to extract the resin/sap...don't be so facetious http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/tongue.gif.

          Old man,

          They had a concept of burying their dead in elloborate ceremonies, will disscuss more on request.

          Another thing...I mentioned above...they were prob alot more intelligent than early Homo Sapiens, but simply not aggressive enough http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/frown.gif to survive the clash of species.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Thap:

            KN, ...don't be so facetious http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/tongue.gif.
            Ah! The tribulations one has to bear whilst seeking knowledge!

            Originally posted by Thap:
            Another thing...I mentioned above...they were prob alot more intelligent than early Homo Sapiens, but simply not aggressive enough http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/frown.gif to survive the clash of species.
            Thats what it comes down to in the end...Survival of the Fittest.

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              #7
              Yep a triple wammie so to speak most propbaly saw to the demise of the Neanderthal;

              1. Birth defects due to enlarged cranial capacity.

              2.Timid nature in comparison to early man.

              3. Lack of adaptability to changing environment.

              But, maybe just maybe they headed for hills away from us in the mountains of the Himalaya, in the Canadian and North American Rockies.....many cultures have myths of ape-like men (and I aint talking about me) in them tharr hills? http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/fraudia.gif

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                #8
                Isnt this theory the opposite of the Adam and Eve theory mr. Thap??
                There is no salvation for the soul, But to fall in Love.
                It has to creep and crawl, Among the Lovers first.

                Imam Jallal-u-Din Rumi

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Thap:
                  They had a concept of burying their dead in elloborate ceremonies, will disscuss more on request.
                  Leave the quickies for Corner Room!

                  Yes, Thap, PLEASE give more details or some links.

                  Homo Neandertalus wasn't part of Homo Sapiens? Did anyone do some DNA tests yet to prove this point or is it just theory?

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                    #10
                    Old man,

                    Homo Neanderthalis have been classified by some scientists as being an offshoot of Homo sapiens, others regard them as a separate species, due to numerous physical differences. Homo Sapiens were around in Europe about 100 000 years ago and Neanderthal man existed concurrently up until about 30-35 000 years ago.

                    Interestingly Homo Sapiens looked much as we do today...however Neanderthals as you no doubt know had heavier brows and a greater propensity toward simian features...thick set and squat. It may seem like they were 'less evolved' but one remarkable undeniable contrary piece of evidence is their brain capacity (about 1500-1600cc) compared to the smaller (<1500cc) Homo Sapiens capacity.

                    The reason I suggest they were spiritual stems mainly from my geology lectures whilst at school many years ago, where I was informed of elaborate burial sites found in Europe and more often than not they contain remains of Neanderthals and not Homo Sapiens...even thought Homo Sapiens greatly outnumbered them.

                    I searched the net but come up dry in this respect....I'm going from memory here.

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                      #11
                      Thap, could the two not be from the same branch but with just different traits as per Caucasian vs. Negroid vs. Aboriginal?

                      Have no DNS testing being done yet to prove that they are separate or same branch? The testing of DNA is nowadays so common, it is somewhat puzzling to me that "evolutionists" don't use the scientific tool available which can change/prove vast parts of their theories.

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                        #12
                        there is too much difference in the bone structure/ cranial structure for both of them to be of the same species..

                        similar to differences between chimpanzees and Orangutans.. you get two skeletons and you will be able to tell that they were different.

                        There has been some say whether both species/sub groups were genetically compatible.... and whether the current humans are mixture of both of them.. there may be some say in it.. considering when you look at many mutations humans get.

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                          #13
                          Blackzero,

                          Yes many physical differences and to a greater extent than between modern races.


                          Oldman,

                          The seemingly regressive step in evolution is of interest here, as Neanderthals post-date Homo Sapiens.

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                            #14
                            further comments?

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