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    How important is your university rep?

    hey folks

    just wanted to take a quick poll and see what the views are out there.

    The question is, how important is the rep of your school in getting the job that you want?
    how important is it 3-4-5 years into your about long term?

    Please also tell us what school you went to and how much the placement office help in landing that first job..or subsequent jobs.
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    I think due to recent boom of IT and related industry, it kinda depends on your major or field of industry. Leaving the exceptions like MIT and Harvard out, for IT professionals, it does not effect as much as it used to be in anyother field of study.

    A business major from Harvard will always get more money and better opportunity, but a computer science grad (again with the exception of MIT etc) won't have hard time these days. MIT grad, of course, will still top but considering the average freshly graduating students, that's how generally is in my opinion.

    Especially in IT industry, after 2-4 years, it does not remain a factor. What matters is your skills and experience in the technologies that are in demand. A lot of people don't even do a bachelor but complete certification in technologies like Networking, DB management, or development tools and start on pretty good jobs.

    I know a lot of young people in IT industry who making a lot more money in the very first year of employment compared to middle aged people in other fields who are working for many years.

    One of my Indian coleague once told me last year that in his city, they had a marriage hall that the management closed and opened an IT training institute there instead. Most of the students after completing the certification from there would get their H-1B visas sponsered by US companies and within a month they are on their way to US.

    In the long run however, in IT industry, the functional knowledge (Financial, ERP, Insurance etc) achieved combined with technical expertise would be the key for growth and career advancement.


      Currently a 3rd yr. student at the University of Toronto. Pursuing a Specialist degree in Software Engineering and a Major in Mathematics.

      Spent the last year outside school working
      f-t as a Networking/Systems Engineer for the provincial govt. Got the job through the PEY Program (Professional Experience Year). I guess U.S. universities also have internship offices and here in Canada, certain majors can be combined with a Co-Op program which essentially is spending 12 - 16 months in the industry during your university.
      It is really useful. Its really useful as its practical experience and not just assignment and projects work that one does as a student.

      Furthermore, I would agree with Roman on this one... in the IT industry, its your first break and subsequent work experience which matters. As a side note to certifications vs. degree, I think degree-holders hold their own special status in the industry. Personally, I think a university degree provides a solid career foundation and develops your personality,
      but certifications are sometimes more practical. I'm heading towards a graduate degree in Management and specializing in ineternetworking and E-Commerce on the side hoping to get the best of both worlds
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        There is a lot of talk about the degree Vs certification thing. For IT, it works that either one (and in some cases certification is better cause the skills are more uptodate) is generally good enough . for the rest of the field in general though the degree still counts ( I think I am done with the days of undegreed doc appointments ). of course if you want to work in any international organization (like the WHO, UN etc) then a degree is not only good it is essential... otherwise the current market in the US is such that people who have the technical know how are been taken on... of course if there was a slow down in the economy then that might not hold true... but then its between making money now and studying then and studying now and making money later.

        As regards the Rep of a school, top tier schools do still command some repect , though that depends on the school and the major taken.


          My post had 2 questions in it, #1, how important is the university rep and #2 how much did your placement office help you.

          I continue to believe that university name is important for quite some time in your career. It may be different for general technology areas though. In my company, the strategy group is very anal about who gets to the interview and who they talk to. The last 3 people I interviewed were from MIT, Northwestern and Univ of Chicago. We extended the offer to the Northwestern MBA. These people have between 8-9 years of experience and were being interviewed for managning consultant positions which is a fairly hgh position in the company. We did not hire all 3 of them even though we are looking for people. But that is the type of resumes that get to us after all the screening out process. So would having the name of a major schol get you the job..No, would it help you get your foot in the door..yes.

          Going on with placement and career services. Some universities do it very well and some do it just so-so. The best results are when the placement offices and individual departments have good terms with certain employers and which also keep the alumni in the loop. I for one would help in hiring anyone from my school.

          My experience with career services is a mixed one. The people in the higher up positions are real good and would help you out but the general office assistant types who do day to day work could usually care less and need to be kicked a bit to get your work done.
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