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    is rationality merely a matter of perception or is there a universal correct rationale that should govern human behavior in all matters...? after all, even religious scripture is open to human interpretation

    extremists like hitler, suicide bombers, majnu...were they crazy or just differrent? do we have the right to say they were wrong?

    #2
    >>do we have the right to say they were wrong?

    No, you don't. Rest of us do.

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      #3
      ^

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        #4
        Would you call a murder different or a criminal? Is killing someone different or a crime? ... there is a thing called common sense that ashraf-ul-makhlukaat are supposed to have...

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          #5
          ChaChoo bhai common sense is an illusion. the same murderer to some could be a hero and to some a villain.

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            #6
            Roman - hasi nai aai

            RP - hansti hi raho gi ya kuch bolo gee bhee kaki

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              #7
              rationality in my opinion can be sheer madness in yours. Yes, there exists a common thread of universal rationale amongst humans but i think thats due to globalization of the concept of human rights as well as awareness of the common law, based on religion or whatever it is that holds the foundation for some kind of moral and ethical guideline for preservation of self as a community. Sorry if this doesnt make sense, i cant seem to find words to get my point across
              Slightly Crazy and Plenty Lazy

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                #8
                Devil hmm dat makes sense yaar

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by irem:
                  ChaChoo bhai common sense is an illusion. the same murderer to some could be a hero and to some a villain.
                  for someone who does not have common sense it sure is an illusion ...

                  forget about religion and social morals for a minutes, lets say someone murders someone during a robbery, plain robbery no Robin Hood crap... whose hero is the murder? His wife and kids who he is feeding with that blood money? You don't need no religion or social morals to pass him off as a cold blooded murder....

                  God gave humans the ability to think and use their brains that is what sets us apart from animals. How about the genocide in Bosnia? Or Baking of Jews? Or Darfur or Rawanda… you really think that we have no right to judge the aggressors as murders and criminals or crazy despite the fact these aggressors were considered heroes by some lunatics? Don’t we have the right calling these criminals “wrong” and not just “different”?

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                    #10
                    Rationality is definately a matter of perception.

                    Adolf Hitler, for instance, adhered very closely to a particular rationale that he persuade many Germans to adhere to as well : the rationale that Aryans were the superior ethnic group in the world and that Jews were subhuman.

                    To the perception of most other people, that was sick and twisted. To Nazis, it was perfectly rational.
                    Muslims are so good at dividing that they can divide the atom. If you see two Muslims, probably they belong to 3 parties.
                    Al-Ghazali

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                      #11
                      Re: rationality

                      wat has this to with H&R? Mods??

                      Originally posted by irem:
                      is rationality merely a matter of perception or is there a universal correct rationale that should govern human behavior in all matters...? after all, even religious scripture is open to human interpretation

                      extremists like hitler, suicide bombers, majnu...were they crazy or just differrent? do we have the right to say they were wrong?
                      anyway, i don't think there is a universal correct rationale. Every one/group has hiw own set of beliefs and judgment and based on that they are right and the other wrong. However, equally well the other has his own set of beliefs, and within that framework he is right.
                      All in all, I don't think there is one particular set that is universal..there are more than one valid sets each with its own specific rationale
                      Why so serious ... ?

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                        #12
                        and ^^ are so forbiddenly specific?
                        pathar ki zaban

                        Single. Of. Singles.

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                          #13
                          ^^come again?:-s
                          Why so serious ... ?

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                            #14
                            and that means what??
                            waisay u are just rewording the whole "its all relative, nothing's absolute" wala argument. not particularly original i am afraid, i have a feeling u r dying to move this to philo.
                            pathar ki zaban

                            Single. Of. Singles.

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                              #15
                              i don't see why as an answer to irem's inquiry one needs to be original. By rewording what others have said (some of them in this thread like MS) I'm giving her my opinion about it.

                              As for the last part:
                              Why so serious ... ?

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