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    Poop or Plastic?

    "Paper or plastic?" is a familiar question one encounters at the supermarket checkout counter. The honorable GS members would scoff at this question. NEITHER, would be the emphatic response of the cloth bag-toting GS crowd.

    But "poop or plastic?". Now that's a tricky one. Dog owners in the west can be seen picking after their dogs' excretions and tossing said nuggets in a plastic bag. What is better for the environment? Poop, of course. All that Poop filled plastic is an out of sight out of mind solution that don't solve notn.

    For a soon to be patented Poop dispenser with optimum Poop/plastic mass ratio, tune in to the Science and NATURE forum.
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    Re: Poop or Plastic?

    I had to pick up dog poop last Monday. I was in a nice neighborhood, leaving it there was not an option. The dog's training is nothing to brag about, so I couldn't stop him from going.

    Getting back to topic. Of course plain poop is better, but people getting poop on their shoes is just not acceptable. Especially in the West where most people are obsessed with smelling good. You see poop in the streets all the time, if you're in Karachi.

    PS: Love this thread, because of the word "poop" ( poop is just funny like that ) and I don't care if people think I'm weird.


      Re: Poop or Plastic?

      Mumbai streets will outpoop Karachi any day.
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        Re: Poop or Plastic?

        How about paper poop bags??
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          Re: Poop or Plastic?

          Actually a very good idea, saab. Some issues re Poop percolation through paper - aka the PPP index will have to be addressed. But this is a good start.

          But isn't this off topic? OP clearly has given an either/or question.
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                Re: Poop or Plastic?

                IMHO, in this case, if it's a public place, definitely plastic. Too much rigidity is not good-- and not just in this context. I think people would generally not like to walk on someone's poop; many would be grossed out at the prospect. I know I'd. So while environmental protection is indeed commendable, at least when we are out and about outside our homes, we need to pick up after our pets and clean any mess they might create. If that entails picking the pets' excrements using a plastic bag because that's the only cleaning option available then be it. That's a basic courtesy we can extend to others who would be using the same road or the same facilities as our pets and us.


                The 'special word' in this thread reminds me of a little joke I read in the @Work section of Reader's Digest:

                "The insurance industry loves its acronyms. The first time I saw proof of ownership was in a client's file that read "Insured has POO on damaged items.""

                PS: Sorry couldn't resist.
                "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." US Declaration of Independence.


                  Re: Poop or Plastic?

                  ^ nice acronym.

                  There is cleanliness. And there is appearance of cleanliness, that actually harms the environment. The latter is unacceptable. And having that position is not being rigid.

                  Of course we need to pick up after our mess. But plastic "being the only option available" is an unacceptable situation.

                  A cradle to grave life cycle analysis, accounting for environmental damage associated costs, would most probably show that Poop and plastic don't mix.
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                    Re: Poop or Plastic?

                    we should reuse fast food fries pouches to put dog poop in.

                    Dog poo is don't smell or any thing. But then again who are we to complain.
                    We start our day with the [email protected]#$est poo on the planet, ever morning
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                      Re: Poop or Plastic?

                      Poop and let poop
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