Tameez *_*

[Mr Xtreme]

Asalamualaikum

Dear friends, I feel sure that you will agree with me that the most important thing we are taught by our parents is tameez, but I looking through some of the posts these days, I feel we are letting our standards slip. I don’t know if this is because of the increasing number of Australians posting here, but I think we have to make an effort to correct ourselves, and hence I have started this thread with a respectful manner and lot’s of smilie faces

Can you my dear brothers and sisters (and nieces and nephews) suggest other positive tameezaydar steps which could be considered?

Khuda Hafiz

[Mr Fraudia]

Xtreme

I agree, tameez…general decency, civility and behavior is Xtremely important. Sadly enough people use lame reasons to support their bad behavior…like oh I am so rebellious or, I am exercising my freedom of speech and all that. Which is all fine but I always view that as a combination of freedom and responsibility..you can say what you want, but you are responsible for being a decent about it.

I guess it shows people’s upbringing or lack thereof…but is that true, I know several people who come from very decent backgrounds and are very civilized in front of family, but then they have this other side.
The whole “bad dude” attitude bug got to them..oh well.

[who---me]

W salamz !!!

Kia haal hay

Y know it could be the my-ego-is-above-the-sky pomps or the I-am-all-goody-goody-yanks.

Maybe we all should go through a refresher course in tameez



Allah Hafiz

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[who---me]

Another thing to note is that sarcasm has crept too deep into us..... Something has to be done about that too

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[nia_khan]

Xtreme bhai... i hear u

[NYAhmadiX]

Dear Mr. Xtreme, salutations! But I beg to differ. Tameez is not one of the most important things taught tous by our parents. It probably falls on the bottom of unimportant things passed on to us by our elders. The moral decadence of our society is buried under this single stupid concept called Tameez. So long as one is raised to call Hindus and Jews names, s/he is considered as someone Tameezdar, and the minute s/he reverses the gear to give a piece of his/her mind back to his her own society, the label is changed to Badtameez. So there lies the inconsistency. It is only subjective and it should not be used as a basic barometer in judging people.

I agree with you about Australians.

Best regards and wishes for a happy Easter.

[mangelo]

Guys, Am I being bad-tameez, plz do tell me if I am!

[mushi]

tameez uss ko de jaye jo uss ke layik ho.

You earn the respect of others, please remember that, and the respect that you give is prescribed in Islam to whom and how much. The tameez that NYAhmedi is talking about is the one learned from forefathers which I agree is somewhat hypocritical.

Tameez in Pakistan is different as tameez in Islam eg not standing up to greet an elderly is bad-tameezy in Pakistan but not in Islam, it is bad-tameezy in Islam not to give salaam to a muslim but as long as you say adaab in Pakistaan it is ok?

Something to think about, is everything that we learn from our 'culture' actually Islamic - relevant to muslims of course.

[Mr Xtreme]

>>Y know it could be the my-ego-is-above-the-sky pomps or the I-am-all-goody-goody-yanks.

yaar, you edited your post twice and you still managed to spell 'poms' wrong. Is there any hope for those living down under

>>I know several people who come from very decent backgrounds and are very civilized in front of family, but then they have this other side.

Fraudia, that's a good point. On the other hand, I know people who can be very crude but they are also very decent people underneath...straightforward and honest.

NYA, I agree with you to some extent, but let's leave the religious issue out of this one otherwise it will end up going off in another direction altogether.

>>It is only subjective and it should not be used as a basic barometer in judging people.

That's true...again, sweet syruppy language and manners don't mean much if it's used to hide something black inside. But that doesn't mean tameez is a bad thing in itself. Just being used in the wrong way.

Anyway, I want to hear from my old buddy Asif on this one. He always has some marvellous views on this sort of topic.

[outlaw]

There are some fundamental values which are equally respected in all cultures and religions. Having those values really defines the finesse aspect of one's personality.

However, there are many non-essential customs and traditions, which varies with each culture, and at times are too formal. I don't think one is obliged to follow such principles.

[Anchal]

Considering there are only four of us on the forums
we aussies sure know how to leave our mark http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/ok.gif

Oi Oi Oi Aussie Aussie Aussie
Oi Oi Oi Aussie Aussie Aussie

Anchal 'the Badtameez Aussie' Guppie

[Asif]

i wrote a really long reply in the most chaste urdu but i wasn't able to post it

[Asif]

mushi sahib...islam mein tameez ka hukm diya gya aur maana kay kuchh khaas tareeq-e-kaar bhi bataai gaye hain izhaar e tameez keliye mas'alan momin ko assalaamu alaykum kehna ya phir mu'aanaqa ya musaafaha karna...lekin iss ka yeh matlab tau har giz nahin ke jo hind o paak mein izhaar e adab o tameez kay tareeqay hain woh ghair-shar'ii hain...

[ATA]

[Sofina]

Mr Xtreme bhai parent told me 2 smile @ every1 beshak woh dushman kiyuna hou